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Puel

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VLC86

VLC86

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7 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

When's the next Radio Leicester phone-in from supporters?

Some of the reactions from certain callers might be interesting..

I’ll pass on that. 

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Matt

Matt

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On 28/04/2018 at 17:14, bmouth_fox said:

Just looking for odds on next prem manager to be sacked and can’t find anything... anyone got anything?

Alot of bookmakers aren't offering the market anymore.

 

However I have found you can bet on it on the Betfair exchanges - You can currently get 3/1 (That's to be sacked before the end of the season).

 

I understand William Hill will be opening the market again shortly but you can get odds of 4/6 on Puel not being Leicester manager on the opening day of next season with William Hill.

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KJT

KJT

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Marco Silva for me, he's young and hungry, sadly Claude Puel is past his best, he was good about 15years ago but is getting old, great Coach but on not very good in management. 

Ian Nacho

Ian Nacho

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I said after the Southampton game, he'll still be in a job even if we lose every game. The only reason he'll get sacked if we get battered in the games towards the end of the season...

mod hero

mod hero

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Alot of bookmakers aren't offering the market anymore.

 

However I have found you can bet on it on the Betfair exchanges - You can currently get 3/1 (That's to be sacked before the end of the season).

 

I understand William Hill will be opening the market again shortly but you can get odds of 4/6 on Puel not being Leicester manager on the opening day of next season with William Hill.

Yeah I tried to put that bet on earlier next to no markets available. He was 16/1 with bet victor the other day and was 32/1 a couple of weeks ago

Wymsey

Wymsey

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The current state of the first page of the Leicester City forum after yesterday..

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Bunyip

Bunyip

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3 hours ago, StanSP said:

what happens if Puel wins next 3 games playing decent football like when he got hired (and before that)? 

 

Would anyone still want him sacked or give him bit more time for next season?

Thankfully that scenario isn't going to happen.

Guest Col city fan

Guest Col city fan

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I’m afraid I hope Puel doesn’t stay.

I don’t think he looks to be tough enough to manage our group of prima donnas. 

We need someone to shake this lot up, to run the show and to have the bollox to offload anyone who steps out of line.

I don’t think Puel seems to be that bloke.

Dyche would, so would Pearson. I actually think Rodgers would too.

Guest Cujek

Guest Cujek

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21 hours ago, nnfox said:

You would if you were offered £2m a year.

If I were offered that much I would use some it to pay someone to teach me French.

roblcfc84

roblcfc84

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The reason I’ve said Puel is that based on nothing but the limited evidence available and my deductions I believe there is a serious issue at our club. 

 

I believe there is significant player power going on down there, made worse by the title win. My conclusion is that there is a core group of players who influence the dressing room if things are not going well or changes are made they don’t like. 

 

The year we stayed up with a fairly limited squad we had found a way to win. A number of people on this forum believe Esteban played a significant role in developing that style. Yet the next season he wanted out, we know Vardy hasn’t been exactly kind about him since. Then Claudio, when we won the league we heard a number of statements that he didn’t really change anything and apart from a few tweaks and the tactics appeared to suit the players. In addition he didn’t really make any signings that summer that either hadn’t already been made or weren’t in train. The one or two he did make never really settled. 

 

The following season Claudio tries to bring in some new players and change tactics. It completely fell apart - the new players never settled. Yet they have all done well before and some since. It’s almost like they weren’t accepted into the group. Shakey comes in and goes back to the tried and tested formula and once again the old guard are happy. 

 

New players come come in again but few of them have seemed to settle - again. The only real success has been Ndidi. One or two others have done ok. 

 

Puel comes in - keeps things largely the same and we have a happy camp. As soon as Puel started to try and implement his own ideas and bring in some younger players or make changes the form dips. Everyone is saying why bring Morgan back in, for me it’s clear that he feels he doesn’t have a choice at the minute as he needs that core group on side. 

 

My conclusion is that we have a group of decent players who aren’t up for change or losing their place to new players. When that happens they seem to stop playing. How much of an influence is Huth having, as an example, behind the scenes. 

 

We we need to back a manager to take us through this period of transition. 

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Hitesh

Hitesh

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47 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Puel according to newspaper reports is now blaming the players, saying they are thinking about the world cup or other things.  This does not sound good.

It's not the best thing if he's said it and should keep stuff like that indoors, however I don't think he's too far from the truth. 

 

The owners may back him, and think that for some sort of stability and clear out to happen, it's a good thing but they now have to look very carefully given he's losing the fans backing and some of the players that will remain are probably starting to doubt it. If we want to keep the likes of Kasper, Maguire, Ndidi and Vardy, they need to back him. Any hint of doubt in that then he'll be starting from a losing position in the summer which will be very hard to come back from. 

indierich06

indierich06

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1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

Puel according to newspaper reports is now blaming the players, saying they are thinking about the world cup or other things.  This does not sound good.

So he thinks they're playing badly on purpose to make sure they get picked for the WC? How does that work? :blink:

suffolk fox

suffolk fox

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20 minutes ago, roblcfc84 said:

The reason I’ve said Puel is that based on nothing but the limited evidence available and my deductions I believe there is a serious issue at our club. 

 

I believe there is significant player power going on down there, made worse by the title win. My conclusion is that there is a core group of players who influence the dressing room if things are not going well or changes are made they don’t like. 

 

The year we stayed up with a fairly limited squad we had found a way to win. A number of people on this forum believe Esteban played a significant role in developing that style. Yet the next season he wanted out, we know Vardy hasn’t been exactly kind about him since. Then Claudio, when we won the league we heard a number of statements that he didn’t really change anything and apart from a few tweaks and the tactics appeared to suit the players. In addition he didn’t really make any signings that summer that either hadn’t already been made or weren’t in train. The one or two he did make never really settled. 

 

The following season Claudio tries to bring in some new players and change tactics. It completely fell apart - the new players never settled. Yet they have all done well before and some since. It’s almost like they weren’t accepted into the group. Shakey comes in and goes back to the tried and tested formula and once again the old guard are happy. 

 

New players come come in again but few of them have seemed to settle - again. The only real success has been Ndidi. One or two others have done ok. 

 

Puel comes in - keeps things largely the same and we have a happy camp. As soon as Puel started to try and implement his own ideas and bring in some younger players or make changes the form dips. Everyone is saying why bring Morgan back in, for me it’s clear that he feels he doesn’t have a choice at the minute as he needs that core group on side. 

 

My conclusion is that we have a group of decent players who aren’t up for change or losing their place to new players. When that happens they seem to stop playing. How much of an influence is Huth having, as an example, behind the scenes. 

 

We we need to back a manager to take us through this period of transition. 

This is spot on.  Was told in Seville way back by a member of the Leicester coaching staff that there was a core group of senior players in the dressing room who wanted Ranieri gone and it was going to happen.  This, the night before we played Seville.  Landed at Luton the day after the game and found out he had been sacked.  You don't have to look to far into  our squad to see who these players are?   I named a few to him that night and although he didn't say anything I could telby his reaction I was spot on with Names.

 

Our club is a shambles at the moment.  Yes, it is easy to blame a manager because the buck always stops with him.  However, from the boardroom level down Rudkin, Whelan, senior players acting like spoilt kids because someone wants to change their playing style. 

 

We should get rid of the trouble makers, start afresh and go again.  We cant keep sacking bloody managers.  Look at teams who have continually done that?  Most of those are in the bottom eight.  Do we really want to be the  next Sunderland?

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MC Prussian

MC Prussian

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1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

Puel according to newspaper reports is now blaming the players, saying they are thinking about the world cup or other things.  This does not sound good.

There are only four LCFC players definitely going to the World Cup this summer. Vardy, Maguire, Iheanacho and Schmeichel. Ndidi could be out for longer and miss the tournament.

 

Okazaki has been left out of the Japan squad for a few matches now and it looks like as if his international career has come to an end.

Silva and Benalouane surely won't get called up by Portugal and Tunisia respectively.

 

Puel wants us to believe that because four players could potentially be thinking about the World Cup already, our season has deteriorated - and that for the past eighteen matches or so? Does he realize that poor performances by these players also reflect badly on them, potentially resulting in not being called up for the World Cup or left on the bench? Poor performances mean the players are sabotaging themselves. How does that work?

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roblcfc84

roblcfc84

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18 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

There are only four LCFC players definitely going to the World Cup this summer. Vardy, Maguire, Iheanacho and Schmeichel. Ndidi could be out for longer and miss the tournament.

 

Okazaki has been left out of the Japan squad for a few matches now and it looks like as if his international career has come to an end.

Silva and Benalouane surely won't get called up by Portugal and Tunisia respectively.

 

Puel wants us to believe that because four players could potentially be thinking about the World Cup already, our season has deteriorated - and that for the past eighteen matches or so? Does he realize that poor performances by these players also reflect badly on them, potentially resulting in not being called up for the World Cup or left on the bench? Poor performances mean the players are sabotaging themselves. How does that work?

It’s clearly his politically balanced way of saying - there’s a group here who aren’t playing for the club because they aren’t getting their own way

StanSP

StanSP

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2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

Puel according to newspaper reports is now blaming the players, saying they are thinking about the world cup or other things.  This does not sound good.

Are there direct quotes where he's said this? 

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