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Harvey Barnes - West Brom (loan)

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1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

Bit odd that he scored on 65 mins but was subbed on 66 mins :huh:

Third game in a week. Put them into a two goal lead and it was probably the planned time to take him off

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 August 12, 2018

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Harvey Barnes continued his hot start to this season, scoring his second goal in three games to help West Bromwich Albion to a 4-3 win away from home against Norwich City.

Barnes’ flexibility was again on display. Starting on the left and playing most of his 65 minutes on the field there, the 20-year-old at times found himself shifted out to the right.

He then played a portion of the second half playing through the centre, where he was able to get into positions closer to goal.

He took three shots in the second half, and with the final one, he guided a first-time curling effort past Tim Krul to put West Brom 3-1 up.

Barnes was generally tidy, completing 91% of his passes. But he also did not take any great risks.

He does, however, continue to show how dangerous he is when given space to run at teams at the edge of the box.

Not only is he able to fashion chances for himself from these positions – both his goals this season have come from outside the penalty area – but he is acutely aware of where he can use one-two passes with a team-mate to create space for himself to score.

Contrastingly, Barnes still looks like a liability defensively.

He is small, slight, and does not possess elite level endurance.

Barnes likes to float when his team is out of possession, looking to take up position in areas where he can damage in transition when his team win the ball back.

This puts pressure on the experienced Kieran Gibbs at left-back.

Nonetheless, the start to the Leicester loanee’s season has been overwhelmingly positive.

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32 minutes ago, davieG said:

Someone's review.

 

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 Stephen Ganavas 

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Harvey Barnes continued his hot start to this season, scoring his second goal in three games to help West Bromwich Albion to a 4-3 win away from home against Norwich City.

Barnes’ flexibility was again on display. Starting on the left and playing most of his 65 minutes on the field there, the 20-year-old at times found himself shifted out to the right.

He then played a portion of the second half playing through the centre, where he was able to get into positions closer to goal.

He took three shots in the second half, and with the final one, he guided a first-time curling effort past Tim Krul to put West Brom 3-1 up.

Barnes was generally tidy, completing 91% of his passes. But he also did not take any great risks.

He does, however, continue to show how dangerous he is when given space to run at teams at the edge of the box.

Not only is he able to fashion chances for himself from these positions – both his goals this season have come from outside the penalty area – but he is acutely aware of where he can use one-two passes with a team-mate to create space for himself to score.

Contrastingly, Barnes still looks like a liability defensively.

He is small, slight, and does not possess elite level endurance.

Barnes likes to float when his team is out of possession, looking to take up position in areas where he can damage in transition when his team win the ball back.

This puts pressure on the experienced Kieran Gibbs at left-back.

Nonetheless, the start to the Leicester loanee’s season has been overwhelmingly positive.

Sounds similar to mahrez 

the defensive bit when he first joined 

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45 minutes ago, davieG said:

Someone's review.

 

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 August 12, 2018

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 Stephen Ganavas 

Photo: Getty Images

Harvey Barnes continued his hot start to this season, scoring his second goal in three games to help West Bromwich Albion to a 4-3 win away from home against Norwich City.

Barnes’ flexibility was again on display. Starting on the left and playing most of his 65 minutes on the field there, the 20-year-old at times found himself shifted out to the right.

He then played a portion of the second half playing through the centre, where he was able to get into positions closer to goal.

He took three shots in the second half, and with the final one, he guided a first-time curling effort past Tim Krul to put West Brom 3-1 up.

Barnes was generally tidy, completing 91% of his passes. But he also did not take any great risks.

He does, however, continue to show how dangerous he is when given space to run at teams at the edge of the box.

Not only is he able to fashion chances for himself from these positions – both his goals this season have come from outside the penalty area – but he is acutely aware of where he can use one-two passes with a team-mate to create space for himself to score.

Contrastingly, Barnes still looks like a liability defensively.

He is small, slight, and does not possess elite level endurance.

Barnes likes to float when his team is out of possession, looking to take up position in areas where he can damage in transition when his team win the ball back.

This puts pressure on the experienced Kieran Gibbs at left-back.

Nonetheless, the start to the Leicester loanee’s season has been overwhelmingly positive.

Great review.

 

He'd be better with a team that expects his weaknesses, and works with his impressive strengths.

 

Two goals in three matches, especially when Barnes gets subbed every match, is impressive nonetheless.

 

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1 hour ago, davieG said:

Someone's review.

 

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 August 12, 2018

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 Stephen Ganavas 

Photo: Getty Images

Harvey Barnes continued his hot start to this season, scoring his second goal in three games to help West Bromwich Albion to a 4-3 win away from home against Norwich City.

Barnes’ flexibility was again on display. Starting on the left and playing most of his 65 minutes on the field there, the 20-year-old at times found himself shifted out to the right.

He then played a portion of the second half playing through the centre, where he was able to get into positions closer to goal.

He took three shots in the second half, and with the final one, he guided a first-time curling effort past Tim Krul to put West Brom 3-1 up.

Barnes was generally tidy, completing 91% of his passes. But he also did not take any great risks.

He does, however, continue to show how dangerous he is when given space to run at teams at the edge of the box.

Not only is he able to fashion chances for himself from these positions – both his goals this season have come from outside the penalty area – but he is acutely aware of where he can use one-two passes with a team-mate to create space for himself to score.

Contrastingly, Barnes still looks like a liability defensively.

He is small, slight, and does not possess elite level endurance.

Barnes likes to float when his team is out of possession, looking to take up position in areas where he can damage in transition when his team win the ball back.

This puts pressure on the experienced Kieran Gibbs at left-back.

Nonetheless, the start to the Leicester loanee’s season has been overwhelmingly positive.

I think this sums up everything I have read and heard about him. In the right team he is going to be special, frustrating at times, will always have his knockers but will ultimately be a decent Premier League player one day.

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Great to see the lad doing well. He has made a wise move going to West  Brom. With Maddison coming in his chances would have been somewhat  limited. He's getting regular 1st team football which is great for his development and scoring regularly will no doubt do his confidence the world of good.

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On 11/08/2018 at 22:39, Foxxed said:

More "anonymous" comments from wba fans, same with Barnsley fans.

 

So he's anonymous, people want him subbed, and then he scores.

 

(And then he's subbed...)

 

Yes I've got the same vibe when looking about, lost count of how many times I've read "not really in the game, but popped up with a screamer", that's great but to make it at the top level you really need to also bring something else. Hopefully as he gains experience he can have a more rounded impact on the team.

 

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5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yes I've got the same vibe when looking about, lost count of how many times I've read "not really in the game, but popped up with a screamer", that's great but to make it at the top level you really need to also bring something else. Hopefully as he gains experience he can have a more rounded impact on the team.

 

Even as a big fan of the lad the consensus does seem to be that he'll be on the periphery of a game before scoring or assisting but I'd rather the end product be there and him be quiet rather than looking lively but ultimately contributing nothing. Take Gray for example, he always looks threatening but doesn't capitalise on his ability and as we know it's hard for players to 'add' end product to their game as we've seen with Gray. Barnes is already doing the difficult bit so hopefully with more confidence and experience he'll become more active in games.

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8 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yes I've got the same vibe when looking about, lost count of how many times I've read "not really in the game, but popped up with a screamer", that's great but to make it at the top level you really need to also bring something else. Hopefully as he gains experience he can have a more rounded impact on the team.

 

I watched the wba forest game. He hardly had a touch the first half. You'd be forgiven for forgetting he was playing. But the most of wba's play was down the right.

 

He moved into the right hand side towards the end of the half and they had a good chance. In the second half he stayed down the right more and more, was in the game a lot more, and had some good chances. When playing where the action was, down the right and centre, he often looked their most dangerous player.

 

But he hardly went in for many challenges. Defensively lightweight definitely. You got the feeling he was trying to force the pass rather than steal the ball. And he's not going to create much on his own: he's definitely a floater, waiting for an attacking movement, ready to take the ball forwards, threatening to score.

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18 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

He's always seemed impressive when out on loan but the few times he's featured for us he's looked average at best. He's young and hopefully grows but I wouldn't have him in our team right now. 

In those two cup matches he played in? Imagine if we judged Vardy as quickly. To be fair, I think a loan is the best for him currently as well, but a 19 year old playing to cup matches isn't enough time to really judge him as average at best.

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4 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

In those two cup matches he played in? Imagine if we judged Vardy as quickly.

A few folk on here probably did.....they just conveniently care to forget it now....just like they did with MON.   Selective memory syndrome...

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It takes time to integrate yourself into a team and gain the confidence of your team mates to include you and if you're a loanee I'd guess sometimes it just never happens.

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