What do you do with a problem like Wes Morgan?

[lgfualol]

5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Repeated fouls sign of a bloke whose legs have completely gone. Time for a change now 

Pretty much how Wasilewski went. 

[UniFox21]

30 minutes ago, Crispin LA said:

Benkovic doing great at Celtic reading the reactions to his performances and read that he's recovered from his injury. Surely it's time to recall him to our squad, cos defensivelly we are rubbish 

Are you serious? He's played a handful of games at most and then got injured. We have Evans who is a solid replacement. 

Stop screaming for loan recalls after a few games Jesus 

[Dan]

17 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Puel being blamed for Morgan getting sent off today I’ve heard it all now 

 

Always backed the big man but lately he’s been so ponderous, slow and inadequate. Got praise for his performance at Newcastle but personally think he was poor and could’ve been caught out several times. Can’t be starting for us anymore, 2 reds in 6 games is becoming a form of liability.

Puel gets blamed because he continues to play him regardless of his performances.

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, lgfualol said:

Pretty much how Wasilewski went. 

Very valid observation 

[gurru991]

He is not mobile enough any more for the Premier. His contract expires at the end of the season and he can then walk away with class. 

Edited 6 October 2018 by gurru991

[urban.spaceman]

At this rate all we need to do is play him in his first 3 games back from suspension and he'll get himself suspended for even more games. Problem solved.

[Corky]

Today he looked his age, sadly. Time to gradually move him on, use him sparingly and give him a great send-off at the Chelsea match in May.

[lifted*fox]

what do you do with a drunken sailor

 

[mozartfox]

2 hours ago, Webbo said:

 I don't believe for a second Puel is scared to drop Wes. Puel must think that Wes is the best player he has for that position and for all I know he might be right.

Therein lies the problem. If Puel thinks this, then questions have to be asked of the Recruitment Team, who effectively gave Puel 3 alternatives.   Now buying for the future (Benkovic) is excellent planning, BUT ignoring the present is not so clever.  Puel needs to sort this quickly, or else more people will turn on him.  In parts today we were very good.  But Morgan's Red could have been avoided.  The last 20 minutes we were shambolic.

[The Doctor]

Ultimately that's two sendings off in three games for repeated fouling. He's getting exposed, not because of the system so much as because he can't cope with the pace of the game anymore. That said, Evans has looked a week link every time he's played and could have cost us as much as Wes has but for profligacy from Wolves and Huddersfield, and Soyuncu is presumably not up to speed yet so what's Puel to do?

[Bert]

Before the season started, Morgan had been booked 20 times for us and sent off twice in nearly six years. This season he’s already been booked 4 times, equalling two red cards. That’s enough to show his decline. An average of just over 3 yellow cards a season with a 0.33 red card average before the season started and he’s already nearly trumped that. 

[Jimothy]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

Ultimately that's two sendings off in three games for repeated fouling. He's getting exposed, not because of the system so much as because he can't cope with the pace of the game anymore. That said, Evans has looked a week link every time he's played and could have cost us as much as Wes has but for profligacy from Wolves and Huddersfield, and Soyuncu is presumably not up to speed yet so what's Puel to do?

Amartey to centre back. If he moves Periera to right back play albrighton or Ghezzal on the wing, or bring Simpson in at right back if he wants to keep playing Periera as a winger. Amartey is a naturally a central player anyway, and at times I feel he drifts inside when playing right back. I think he did well today when moved into centre of defence. He has pace and strength.

 

The other option of course it to accept that Evans is a proven premier league centre back who for whatever reason might need a few games to settle, so play him, ride through it and let him get settled.

[TeamRocket]

Maybe hes trying to get a move back to forest and he knows if he plays good they will think hes to good for them so this way he can fit right in lol but think its time to give the man a rest and and see what the other guys can do

[Carl the Llama]

14 minutes ago, Bert said:

Before the season started, Morgan had been booked 20 times for us and sent off twice in nearly six years. This season he’s already been booked 4 times, equalling two red cards. That’s enough to show his decline. An average of just over 3 yellow cards a season with a 0.33 red card average before the season started and he’s already nearly trumped that. 

Surely it's not nearly but full on trumped? 2 reds in 6 years followed by 2 in 6 games, 3 yellows a season for 6 years followed by 4 in 6 games. That's an eclipsing of the previous stats however you look at it. 

 

I'm a big fan of the guy: As someone stated earlier he's far outdone what we expected from the big plodder arriving from Forest, but unfortunately he looks to be dropping off a cliff edge. Problem is the alternative options, I'm tending towards the latter POV Facecloth just wrote above at the moment while we buy time to bed in and work on the younger new arrivals.

Edited 6 October 2018 by Carl the Llama

[Russell sprout]

As much as I agree Morgan shouldn’t be starting,

i think it’s discusting how some talk of him,

our most successful ever captain,

yes is a yard or two off but let’s be abut more dignified in our criticism,

I couldn’t imagine someone talking like that about Walsh’s and he played for cov after us,

i just think we should show a little respect 

to our captain 

[mozartfox]

You would assume he has realistically lost any chance of a contract extension now?

[Chrysalis]

season too much for big wes and on top of that isnt comfortable on the ball so doesnt fit in with the style of play.

 

This is why hes fouling so much now as he is chasing all the time.

 

He needs to be dropped but I am not sure if claude will do it.

[lcfcsnow]

2 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

You would assume he has realistically lost any chance of a contract extension now?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's already extended it and the club are waiting for a good performance before announcing it 

[FoxinNotts]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

Ultimately that's two sendings off in three games for repeated fouling. He's getting exposed, not because of the system so much as because he can't cope with the pace of the game anymore. That said, Evans has looked a week link every time he's played and could have cost us as much as Wes has but for profligacy from Wolves and Huddersfield, and Soyuncu is presumably not up to speed yet so what's Puel to do?

Get Söyüncü up to speed quickly

[davelcfc100]

2 hours ago, gurru991 said:

He is not mobile enough any more for the Premier. His contract expires at the end of the season and he can then walk away with class. 

If he’s fast enough.

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Pretty much how Wasilewski went. 

Nothing like, Was put his tackles in in danger areas. Wes today was half way line and no danger. The guy really has lost it. Yes been great but can't live of past glories playing like that. He cost us that game. 

[Pete from the USA]

There is only one guy to blame for Wes still being in the team: Jonny Evans. He's at the peak of his career and should be able to outperform Wes in training and on the pitch. If he were playing up to standard Puel would be starting him.

[inckley fox]

I thought the second red was a touch harsh, though I understand the decision, and didn't actually think that Wes was one of our biggest problems today. He's been over-exposed at times this season and we have to look at why that happens, which may go some way to explaining why Maguire has also been quite poor, and Evans when he's stepped in.

[Albert]

12 hours ago, Lovejoy said:

Drop the **** forever. It's pretty fcuking simple.

....the **** that has worn the armband & been an integral part of our team for the past 6 yrs who has never let us down & led us through the greatest era in our history?!?!

His time is coming to an end which is clear to all of us but you should hang your head in shame making such embarrassingly disrespectful comments to such a legend.

 

 

 

 

 

[WestLothianFox]

He has to play, after all, he is the captain of Wester City.

 

He will probably be given a new contract and end up playing for us with his Zimmer

 

Sorry Wes, do us a favour and drop yourself, we all know you pick the team. Bow out gracefully