Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 I'm feeling the same as when we were in the relegation zone with Ranieri, and I just pretty much stopped caring about football. A good result or two won't change that, Puel just isn't good enough
MPH Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said: If we sack him you just know they'll be no plan in place and Stowell will be put in temporary charge, player power will be back with Simpson and King starting again from what i could work out we have plans to appoint Jardim at the end of the season anyway.. we could just bring that forward if the need is there.. i might add though that i am not sure if Jardim is on board with these plans or not!
Fox1norfolk Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 I thought the Puel style was working to a certain extent, but it’s not now. The intensity, ball retention has virtually disappeared, they never look like scoring. There is quality in the players many are internationals, so what’s gone wrong, unfortunately I believe it’s Puel
brucey Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 My main concern with sacking Puel mid season is that his successor may decide to revert to playing the old guard and offer them contract extensions. We already know Puel won't do that. I'd rather wait for that option to 'expire' at the end of the season before replacing Puel.
David Hankey Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 20 hours ago, weller54 said: Could that whatever reason be Claude Puel? Not necessarily, the players have to look at themselves and hand on heart ask if they are satisfied with their performances.
RoboFox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Feels like there’s been a huge shift in opinion this weekend. Those sitting on the fence have made their mind up. When you’ve lost the fans, your days are numbered. Shame.
nettle Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 What I can't understand with Peul's tactics is he obviously likes overlapping fullbacks who whip balls into the box, but with a striker like vardy this is never gonna create much. Vardy loves the ball in front of him anyone with a brain can see that but not Peul and I just don't get it. Surely as a manager thats worth his salt you've got to play to the strengths of the players you have in the squad until you replace these players with your own men. And this is why I want rid of the guy because he's obviously not got much of clue and as my brother said recently the football is boring as f**k and I'm not going anymore until this pleb has gone. But then said I'll see you on Tuesday ?
Monsell1976 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 1 minute ago, David Hankey said: Not necessarily, the players have to look at themselves and hand on heart ask if they are satisfied with their performances. We have had dead wood for a while, and if you listen to rumours, which seem to have some credibility about them, there is to much player power down there. I personally think a lot of the players are not good enough, and some are just out and out snakes and have cost numerous managers their jobs. Top has a choice, keep getting rid of managers, or get rid of the snakes, as we are just going around in circles, with the only winners are shit players on high wages. Gone off puel, but been saying it for seasons, if we sack another manager, this time has to be a big clear out, and i might be guessing but some of the snakes are fans favourites, but I’d still get rid
Guest Kopfkino Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 We were shit before the tragedy ffs. That West Ham game was as painfully bad as any recently. Everton apart from a 15 minute spell not much better.
whetstonefox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 At the moment we are sleepwalking towards a relegation battle, if not this season definitely next if we are not careful. Although we should be ok as we probably need 15 more points you can see the enjoyment has completely evaporated. That could be for a variety of reasons, the manager, the disaster that hit the club, a general loss of form. It's a difficult situation,just feel we need a big personality to come in and give the whole football club a lift and new lease of life, although he can be annoying, someone like a klopp. For whatever reason the understated way puel goes about stuff is not working and may only get worse. I'd always hoped that puel would let his talking be on the football pitch as his interviews are not very interesting. Unfortunately the football on the pitch now matches his interview persona.
oadby.fox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 9 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: We have had dead wood for a while, and if you listen to rumours, which seem to have some credibility about them, there is to much player power down there. I personally think a lot of the players are not good enough, and some are just out and out snakes and have cost numerous managers their jobs. Top has a choice, keep getting rid of managers, or get rid of the snakes, as we are just going around in circles, with the only winners are shit players on high wages. Gone off puel, but been saying it for seasons, if we sack another manager, this time has to be a big clear out, and i might be guessing but some of the snakes are fans favourites, but I’d still get rid Who do you think are the 'snakes' and in what ways are they undermining the manager? And do you not think that both Shakey and Ranieri's days were numbered despite claims of player unrest? Why was there player unrest to begin with? After all, the former had no managerial experience whatsoever and the latter had many of his own faults (he was fired from the Greece job wasn't he before coming to us). I would like to think that much of the old guard bar Vardy and Kasper will be leaving in Summer regardless but who knows what to expect exactly. With regards to Puel; his recent record in management doesn't exactly seem to suggest he's faultless either. There was a reason Southampton sacked him, even if it did seem like an absurd decision for them to make at the time.
CosbehFox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 I just can’t see the hierarchy sacking him in the circumstances they sadly face. Yesterday was a turning point for Puel. It’s roughly a year now. If you use this season as a new beginning, the same mistakes I’d forgive in August are reoccurring. Neutral journalists are reporting each match by saying what an interesting squad we have but performances are poor. I hate the use of ‘a club’s DNA’ but it just ain’t us at the moment.
CosbehFox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 4 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: In January of this year I posted about this very subject and was pilloried by the masses on here and have been ever since. His tactics are at best outdated, and I am frankly staggered how long it’s taken for the penny to drop with our fans. The whole team has had the energy and life sucked out of it, to the point that saddens me. Such a waste of time operating a terrible style of play that has yielded an average of 1.13 pts per game in 42 games. Now that people see the light, when Puel does go, I expect to be carried into the stadium atop the shoulders of said masses and lauded for my insight. Failing that I await the apologies that Im sure will be forthcoming from you Puel Iners; for being so naive about the game yet so sure of Claude’s abilities to make it work here. ✊ Yep, exactly as I expected, I am right...you are wrong.
norwichfox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 21 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Last ten matches: 0-1 0-2 1-1 2-0 1-1 0-0 1-0 1-1 1-3 1-2 W2 D4 L4 Spot the issue. Poor, but for those that are calling for Pearson to come back, take a look at his performance in his last season here for the same 10 weeks, W1 - D1 - L8....no thanks we need better, or a couple of really good effective signings in January. 2014/15 under Pearsons Guidance LCFC v Man City 0-1 13th December Villa v LCFC 2-1 7th December LCFC v L'Pool 1-3 2nd December QPR v LCFC 3-2 29th November LCFC v Sunderland 0-0 22nd November S'thampton v LCFC 2-0 8th November LCFC v WBA 0-1 1st November Swansea v LCFC 2-0 25th October Newcasrle v LCFC 1-0 18th October LCFC v Burnley 2-2 4th October
Leicester_Loyal Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Pearson is definitely not the answer, but sadly I don't think Puel is either. Some of our performaces over the past year have quite frankly been embarrassing.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 30 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Neutral journalists are reporting each match by saying what an interesting squad we have but performances are poor. Lots of people can see it in the business. Only one actively makes a case to keep him. The rest just don't see it. If you never bond with the fans and the players get bored and frustrated you're losing the battle big time. Puel could try and adapt his ways to help himself but that doesn't look like happening, sadly.
tickler28 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 40 minutes ago, Gerbold said: You all seem to be forgetting that Srivaddhanaprabha died in horrific circumstances such a (still) short time ago. It seems that all the whingers are rising to the top again after keeping their mouths shut during the time of the intense mourning. Has it occurred to any of the 'Puel out' faction that it takes time to get over such a loss - and, given the admiration and/or affection of the players for him, it may be that they cannot get their heads around this tragedy as quickly as the critics feel is appropriate? I suspect those fans who were affected deeply by this will be far more forgiving of the team and its management. Perhaps this will just have to be the season that is written off and, as long as we don't get into a relegation struggle, look forward to next season - when time will have eased the effect of his death. Now is not the time to change managers and certainly not the time to appoint a stop-gap. We cannot expect Topp to have integrated himself into his father's position already. He may understand the Club and players intimately but it's a huge step of confidence and skill in assuming the role of ultimate decision maker. I know what I've written here won't affect those who are hell-bent on him going but it may remind those whose confidence is slipping that this isn't a normal situation. I would have thought his loss would have galvanised the players. I personally do not think that his loss is the reason for our shit performances. We were shit before Vichai passed and writing off season after season is ludicrous because it seems weve done that the last 2 years already.
Matt Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 6 minutes ago, tickler28 said: I would have thought his loss would have galvanised the players. I personally do not think that his loss is the reason for our shit performances. We were shit before Vichai passed and writing off season after season is ludicrous because it seems weve done that the last 2 years already. Thank-you. I've been trying to write something similar to that but every time i've decided to bite my tongue, decided to let people get on with it and not posted what i've wrote because it still doesn't sit easy with me talking about it, arguing about it or making excuses for it.
Larry_LCFC Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 3 hours ago, fuchsntf said: No he's not...!!! And he gave a reason!! Puel is a decent manager? What exactly has Puel shown us to suggest he is a decent manager? Answers on a stamp.
Rigga Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Puel is here to stay I reckon.. Will last until the end of the season for sure. until then, I’m afraid we will have to suffer much of the same with the odd inspired individual performance from someone. We continue to spend bucket loads of money without looking like a half decent team.
TMELcfc Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Just get a f****** German in!! Aggressive pressing will suit us and the fans need it
Larry_LCFC Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 3 minutes ago, Matt said: Thank-you. I've been trying to write something similar to that but every time i've decided to bite my tongue, decided to let people get on with it and not posted what i've wrote because it still doesn't sit easy with me talking about it, arguing about it or making excuses for it. If anything I think it would be disrespectful to Vichai if his passing was to be blamed for our shithouse performances. Clearly there was a period where it had a significant impact but he would want us to play with our hearts on our sleeves which is exactly what we aren't doing. This season is heading into a mudslide and that is down to Puel.
UniFox21 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 1 hour ago, David Hankey said: Not necessarily, the players have to look at themselves and hand on heart ask if they are satisfied with their performances. Very few can safely say they've given their all and are playing well.
Old Fox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 He has drained the life out of a very talented squad.... All this conjecture about changing to make us a better possession team is a load of rubbish - watch us play for goodness sake players like Ndidi, Ricardo, Chilwell, Gray, Vardy have all the attributes to play a high intensity closing down and fast paced game - we have become absolute drivel with no plan. The 4-2-3-1 does not even have a pattern to it and the sooner we change manager the better - sadly we will get beat on Tuesday in another quarter final when we come up against the quality of City without our own game plan! Forget whether we want continuity - you do not do that with the wrong man in charge - get us a Martinez or Jardim who will press, play attacking football and not just be content with having better possession statistics..... So, so disappointing and bloody dreadful to watch!!
Captain... Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 The players have struggled to adapt, the new and the old. You can see them trying to follow instructions but not enough of them understand how this formation works with or without the ball. Every game they look under prepared, unsure and bereft of confidence. I’m not saying it is all Puel’s fault, but he and his coaching staff has to take their share of responsibility and the fact that after a year and many pound notes there has been virtually no improvement. I don’t want Puel to go, I want him to be successful but I’m not fussed if he does go now, I think that the right replacement would have a better chance of turning this round than Puel but the wrong replacement could set things back and end up being very costly.
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