Time for Puel to go

[Guest Mee-9]

I think yesterday has to be the final straw.

 

He's been off the hook several times. We were dire yesterday. 

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, Dames said:

I understand that there has been a lot of changes to the team with the introduction of youth, the shifting of the old guard and a new system of playing. Puel has done these things reasonably well and cannot be criticised too much in this area.

 

However there is a huge inconsistency to his tactical decisions from the start of games, injuries aside he makes a lot of needless changes which is affecting players form and confidence. What I really cant abide by is the seeming lack of desire and motivation of the players on the pitch to try and win a football game. This comes under the managers remit and he is not doing a good enough job keeping the players on job. Yes there has been a big tragedy but that should have been used to light a fire under the players, they should still be busting a gut in honor of the chairman but instead they are wimpering around the pitch.

 

For this i’m in the Puel out camp. For all the good he does, he really can’t fire this group up to win a football game or even at least look like they are trying for a full 90 minutes when all the ingredients are there. 

 

We’ve already lost 2 on the bounce, if we end up going on a losing run and the heads drop even further we are in big trouble wether some people would like to admit it or not.

I suppose I belong "still" to the the Puel in brigade..

of all the frothing at the mouth,hate campaigns with no stated or stable logic behind many of the "out" posters opinions.

 

This post has credatability / credence, and whether I agree with all or none of the points...I can go along with those points mentioned...

My own thought however gives Puel  IMO a massive excuse.....We are simply not good enough,and our midfield 's total wipe out of

Ndidi poor form,inability to pass,then our big trust investments on Silva and Iborra, has left Puel with no base to find any consistency

in selection of tactics. Then Nacho not even getting up to any decent form,or making himself dangerous to the opposition...

Has left Puel dry with barely nothing to work with...not forgetting we haven't converted those real chances,what struggling teams

need to do.If only 50% had been taken,we would of been well above Wolves!!!

 

Maybe,just maybe there is an unknown out there,that can get,this squad delivering performances with relevant results!!!

But "out "posters,can't then  have it both ways,....if , Nacho and Gray are not good enough,if Iborra and Silva are rubbish,if Ndidi

is now showing he's the finished article,and is useless and not competent enough to improve on his potential,add Vardy who's

Firing blanks, then from the beginning of the season,Periera and Ghezzy were not considered good enough,then what can any

Manager,let alone Puel do!!! 

 

if we decide to twist and not stick,then IMO the only hope,is that ,that change brings a new fresh desire from within the players,and after

the first games adenilin,has played out,they don't return to their natural bad habits,and downward spiral into their routine potential....

because the new manager will not get anymore financial backing,until the dead wood has been recognised and outted!!!

 

of course it's frustrating,a bloody horrible feeling,but Puel can't be held responsible for the total failing of our recent recruitment,

From before and including last season...If has a youngish team you can't bring intensity and fighting never die spirit to your game,then

it's hard for any manager to install it....!!!  Oh it's easy to yell!!! Then kick them up their arrogant arse, but if it aint there,then it aint!!

grumbling with high octane opinions on team failures are all down to Puel, is not facing up to the fact our heroes are not good enough

at present or in the future,to realise their potential!!!

 

 

 

[m4DD0gg]

7 hours ago, Fosse93 said:

I think the majority of 'Puel In' supporters don't actually go to many games.

 

On paper he's great, but the reality is people are spending their hard earned money week in, week out, to see us put in performance after performance of tepid, uninspiring football.

 

Saturday afternoons used to be an outlet for me, forget all the shit that's happened during the week, back at home. Get down the footy with your mates, have a few jars and enjoy the match.

 

Saturday afternoons are just another source of frustration now, unfortunately.

Exactly this. Going to matches is soul destroying at the minute. 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 hour ago, Old Fox said:

He has drained the life out of a very talented squad....

Nail on head part one.

 

1 hour ago, Captain... said:

The players have struggled to adapt, the new and the old. You can see them trying to follow instructions but not enough of them understand how this formation works with or without the ball. Every game they look under prepared, unsure and bereft of confidence.

Nail on head part two.

 

If we can see what the problem is it's worrying that the manager can't.

Or maybe he's just too stubborn to change.

[MC Prussian]

1 hour ago, norwichfox said:

 

Poor, but for those that are calling for Pearson to come back, take a look at his performance in his last season here for the same 10 weeks, W1 - D1 - L8....no thanks we need better,  or a couple of really good effective signings in January.

 

2014/15 under Pearsons Guidance
LCFC v Man City     0-1     13th December
Villa v LCFC    2-1     7th December
LCFC v L'Pool    1-3     2nd December
QPR v LCFC    3-2     29th November
LCFC v Sunderland    0-0    22nd November
S'thampton v LCFC    2-0    8th November
LCFC v WBA    0-1    1st November
Swansea v LCFC    2-0     25th October
Newcasrle v LCFC    1-0    18th October
LCFC v Burnley    2-2    4th October

First of all, look at the teams we played in that period.

Second, look up what players we had at our disposal and what they cost - a fraction of today's team.

 

Given the circumstances, I don't see how you can beat Pearson with that stick.

 

I agree it's probably best for him not to return a third time to the same club, which in itself would be highly unusual, but also in order for him not to spoil his previous achievements.

I'm not sure given the way the team is set up now he'd be able to improve our style of play in a rather short period of time. No manager would. We need improvements in player personnel also.

[Monsell1976]

2 hours ago, oadby.fox said:

Who do you think are the 'snakes' and in what ways are they undermining the manager? And do you not think that both Shakey and Ranieri's days were numbered despite claims of player unrest? Why was there player unrest to begin with? After all, the former had no managerial experience whatsoever and the latter had many of his own faults (he was fired from the Greece job wasn't he before coming to us).

 

I would like to think that much of the old guard bar Vardy and Kasper will be leaving in Summer regardless but who knows what to expect exactly. With regards to Puel; his recent record in management doesn't exactly seem to suggest he's faultless either. There was a reason Southampton sacked him, even if it did seem like an absurd decision for them to make at the time. 

 If I had to guess who was a snake, I have my ideas but would be pure speculation.

 It doesn’t take a lot, once a couple start bad mouthing the manager, because they either don’t like him, his style or can’t get their own way.

 

 And then it’s not hard to go out and put in an half arsed performance, to get the manager the push, how many times has puel said he tells them more intensity.

 

Puel isn’t going to work here, his style of football could, if he didn’t have shit players, who struggle to pass to their own team, or players that don’t like his style, and seem to be playing at pre season intensity every week.

 

 Puel isn’t innocent in all of this, he picking players who let him down, picks a negative side, insist on playing albrighton, who hits one in ten decent crosses into the box, but oh he’s took of the recognised striker, and gray is in there on his own.

 

 I feel for top, because something was brewing with puel and the players, guessing but I think we could all see it, before the crash, and I don’t think this season, politics within the club are going to be on his mind.

 

 Would like him, or him to instruct someone to clear out in the summer, manager, players, certain coaches.

 We have become boring, even before puel, with piss poor results, and inconsistencies.

 Time for change, and change of direction, adding a bit of class, rather than the bang average shite we seem to have a lot of

 

 

[srbfox]

21 hours ago, splinterdream said:

What is it that makes you think that? Not having a go, just interested as the only positives I can see is he gives young players a chance and rotates (if not a little too often)

Chopping and changing manger will amount to very little consistency. We all want a project with long term goals and objectives, Puel has shown that with youth. Yes all is not going well at the moment. But let's give the fella time, not just two transfer windows. 

 

But it what are the alternatives. Get rid of Puel, start over again? I personally think we need to be thinking longer then the end of the season, maybe even the end of the next. 

 

I'm all for opinions but people I have heard very little alternative suggested...if any at all. I'm all ears if anyone wants to suggest something other then Puel out move onto the next manager. 

 

 

[srbfox]

22 hours ago, chapero82 said:

You need to wake up 

 If you disagree that's fine but back it up with an opinion of your own. It's a forum...

[yorkie1999]

2 hours ago, Captain... said:

The players have struggled to adapt, the new and the old. You can see them trying to follow instructions but not enough of them understand how this formation works with or without the ball. Every game they look under prepared, unsure and bereft of confidence.

 

I’m not saying it is all Puel’s fault, but he and his coaching staff has to take their share of responsibility and the fact that after a year and many pound notes there has been virtually no improvement. 

 

I don’t want Puel to go, I want him to be successful but I’m not fussed if he does go now, I think that the right replacement would have a better chance of turning this round than Puel but the wrong replacement could set things back and end up being very costly.

They’re not the only ones who don’t understand it

[leicesterseddon]

I do think we should wait till the summer but after yesterday, I’m Puel out. 

 

It’s clear there is no connection/love for him amongst our fans and it’s too late now, it’s not going to work long-term. 

 

Frankly I’m fed up of the inconsistency in the team selection, one up front, NEVER leaving a man up when defending corners, playing two (sometimes three) defensive central midfielders in the same role, no plan B when things are tough, basing our pattern of play in crosses into the box after getting rid of our only forwards who have an aerial threat, basically giving up on pressing teams, players sometimes shouting at the bench because they don’t know where they are playing or what their role is... 

 

He’s not had long enough for us to see the ‘finished product’ - but he’s been there long enough to show progress, and I just don’t think we are actually doing that. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

We've genuinely not made any progress in the past 12 months. The only thing that's changed is the football and results have become even worse.

[Heymister2015]

People saying Jardim wouldn’t be interested in little old Leicester might forget a state of the art training ground as good as any! New stadium development as good as any and a massive transfer kitty! I’d say he would be interested! 

[surrifox]

He’s been unlucky in that The planning at the club would have seen Silva as a key component in the midfield who would have been expected to provide the forward attacking impetus . The fact that he is either a dud or not trusted by the manager has left the whole shape of the side wrong 

[Mike Oxlong]

8 minutes ago, Heymister2015 said:

People saying Jardim wouldn’t be interested in little old Leicester might forget a state of the art training ground as good as any! New stadium development as good as any and a massive transfer kitty! I’d say he would be interested! 

 

Don’t forget the fan base that’ll want the manager sacked if we’re not top 6 and winning most games with a swashbuckling brand of football. 

[dannythefox]

I want him to do well but nothing changes from week to week. We need someone who can play with Vardy we’re not good enough to play one up top. We need to splash the cash on a front man we’ve got the players to play 3 at the back so we need to start playing 3-5-2 and getting at teams.

[The_77]

On 15/12/2018 at 12:05, Dr The Singh said:

He is not going anywhere, I hope he gets the funds to buy the players he needs.  I feel this season is going to be a long one

How much more money does this guy want? He spent about £100M this summer. Time to start managing the players he’s got. 

[RODNEY FERNIO]

12 minutes ago, Heymister2015 said:

People saying Jardim wouldn’t be interested in little old Leicester might forget a state of the art training ground as good as any! New stadium development as good as any and a massive transfer kitty! I’d say he would be interested! 

Don't think he will if Manchester United come knocking on his door … getting more and more likely.

[The_77]

4 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

 

Don’t forget the fan base that’ll want the manager sacked if we’re not top 6 and winning most games with a swashbuckling brand of football. 

The fan base wants results on par with the investments made by Vichai and Top. They’ve made investments that justify expectations to qualify for Europe. 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

14 minutes ago, The_77 said:

The fan base wants results on par with the investments made by Vichai and Top. They’ve made investments that justify expectations to qualify for Europe. 

Silva slimani musa nacho. 4 of our most costly investments

[chapero82]

48 minutes ago, srbfox said:

 If you disagree that's fine but back it up with an opinion of your own. It's a forum...

You go on about consistency but Puel’s line up’s are the most inconsistent we have seen, the only thing consistent about him is that we start so slow the other team score first, and that he has at least one Crazy change in the starting line up! 

[Mike Oxlong]

7 minutes ago, The_77 said:

The fan base wants results on par with the investments made by Vichai and Top. They’ve made investments that justify expectations to qualify for Europe. 

Well Puel hasn’t made those investments as a lot of expense was incurred before he was appointed. Should he get the sack because Slimani and Musa aren’t good enough ? 

 

FFP stops us changing it all in one or two windows. The general consensus on here at the end of the summer was that CP had done good business - Maddision and Perreira are definite improvements and great prospects,  Soyuncu and Benkovic look decent possibilities for next season.  Iheanacho looks a poor signing at the moment but few criticised the purchase and we won’t be the only team top blow a wad on a supposedly hot prospect striker who fails to deliver. 

 

I’d like to see CP have till the end of the season and then review. 

 

For most of my life being a Leicester fan has been about coping with a lot of crap football and poor managers with glimmers of joy and hope thrown in. 

 

15/16 came from nowhere, we have lost Kante, Mahrez and Drinkwater since. 

 

I think that we can become a top 10 side, perhaps better, with some patience. 

 

The problem for me is the sense of entitlement (not expectation) amongst fans following on from the title win. 

 

Will a new manager who doesn’t have us in the top 6 after two windows be equally despised ? 

 

That concerns me. 

[nnfox]

Owners buy into the team when we were in the Championship. Ambitions of being a top half premier league team. Owners invest millions into the team, eventually get promoted. First season in the prem, survive by the skin of our teeth. Second season, target is to consolidate and improve but we win the league. Invest more millions for Champions  League campaign. Buy some doggo players.

 

After all that we have a mix of emotions. Some who want to build on league success, others who want to build a solid foundation for sustained success. Shakespeare was a mistake, he was employed to rescue a bad situation and ride what was left of the crest of the title.

 

Evidently, there is a need to evolve the squad from the title winning squad. Two options: 1. Invest more millions on hit or miss transfers. 2. Develop some youth players that the club have spent millions on as a long term strategy.

 

The owners opted for option 2 which I am fine about.  The cost in the short term is dropping points in games we should win on paper.

 

Puel was brought in to develop the youth. He is developing the youth.

 

With everything that has happened this season, no way he gets sacked.

[The_77]

12 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Well Puel hasn’t made those investments as a lot of expense was incurred before he was appointed. Should he get the sack because Slimani and Musa aren’t good enough ? 

 

FFP stops us changing it all in one or two windows. The general consensus on here at the end of the summer was that CP had done good business - Maddision and Perreira are definite improvements and great prospects,  Soyuncu and Benkovic look decent possibilities for next season.  Iheanacho looks a poor signing at the moment but few criticised the purchase and we won’t be the only team top blow a wad on a supposedly hot prospect striker who fails to deliver. 

 

I’d like to see CP have till the end of the season and then review. 

 

For most of my life being a Leicester fan has been about coping with a lot of crap football and poor managers with glimmers of joy and hope thrown in. 

 

15/16 came from nowhere, we have lost Kante, Mahrez and Drinkwater since. 

 

I think that we can become a top 10 side, perhaps better, with some patience. 

 

The problem for me is the sense of entitlement (not expectation) amongst fans following on from the title win. 

 

Will a new manager who doesn’t have us in the top 6 after two windows be equally despised ? 

 

That concerns me. 

European football may never be a given for us but it’s an attainable goal. We’ve put in some dire performances under Puel and if not for a visiting Watford team that couldn’t walk a ball into the net, this season would look a bit uglier.

 

We’ve made some poor buys before Puel but he’s also been supported by a large war chest. At the end of the day, he’s paid to manage the club— is he getting anything close to the most out of his players? I’d say he isn’t. Does he even have the proper vision? Many fans are willing to buy into it but just because he has one doesn’t mean it’s the best for this club. Why does Puel get more of a benefit of the doubt than other managers?

[Mike Oxlong]

1 minute ago, The_77 said:

European football may never be a given for us but it’s an attainable goal. We’ve put in some dire performances under Puel and if not for a visiting Watford team that couldn’t walk a ball into the net, this season would look a bit uglier.

 

We’ve made some poor buys before Puel but he’s also been supported by a large war chest. At the end of the day, he’s paid to manage the club— is he getting anything close to the most out of his players? I’d say he isn’t. Does he even have the proper vision? Many fans are willing to buy into it but just because he has one doesn’t mean it’s the best for this club. Why does Puel get more of a benefit of the doubt than other managers?

 

I don’t think he does with the fan base.

 

He hasn’t had the support of many throughout. 

 

Ther’s still enough deadwood around for the team not to be operating as a finely oiled machine and as Chilwell proves some players take time to develop. Maddison and Perreira are in their first PL season. Iheanacho is still relatively inexperienced (through I’m not convinced he’ll make the grade) 

 

Fan entitlement and a lack of patience is the problem IMO. 

 

And for others they just can’t stand a boring Frenchman. 

 

[justfoxes]

19 hours ago, Ted Maul said:

Only 12 points?! Panic stations! 

4 more lost games in a short period with quite a few games coming our way over the Christmas period and the bottom few picking up points where we and at this moment can’t afford to drop, I’m not a one for sacking on a whim but yesterday’s performance was diabolical I really would love him to be able to pick his strongest 11 instead of staying faithful to some under performing players whilst we have the likes of Silva Iborra and more not able to get a game.

 

CP seems to put out the wrong team to wrong formations he can’t please everyone and some say but we’re mid table but why should we be mid table when we have the likes of Wolves Bournemouth Watford and West Ham above us, why can’t we be in 7th place we have a squad capable of being 6th or 7th but it seems CP can’t manage our team to those heady heights?

 

We all have our moans and our groans about CP and we all will whilst he’s here but the Powers to be seem to trust him so he’s our manager til they say so let’s get behind him !

Onwards and upwards and all that !!?