The_Rorab Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 (edited) Has there been any decision overturned by VAR that wasn't handball or offside? I.e. a decision that they've tried to make binary. Edited 31 August 2019 by The_Rorab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireFox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 Chris Sutton just said we’ll finish top six on 5 live. Nearly passed out 😵. Tempered with saying Youri should have gone today! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 48 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Kevin Friend is from Leicestershire.... one of the worst decisions i’ve ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 I think we need a slightly better view than that potato-vision tweet, but using that alone you can argue that he seems to hurl himself over the 2nd defender, trailing his left leg for contact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 34 minutes ago, DerbyshireFox said: Chris Sutton just said we’ll finish top six on 5 live. Nearly passed out 😵. Tempered with saying Youri should have gone today! Well a senior ref Martin Atkinson was the VAR ref today I believe and he didn't think it was a red so end of really. Chris Sutton being positive about us is amazing though for its rarit. Guy is generally an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 Here's a better clip. If you watch where he's looking he's just focused on getting the pass away, doesn't even try to claim a pen because he's too busy watching on to see if Lansbury can finish it. Friend's got that very wrong imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 1 hour ago, The Bear said: Just seen Tielemans' challenge. Lucky to get away with that one. Been taking tips off Choudry? No if he had the guy would have been carried off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 That is an abysmal decision for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420Hashish Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 (edited) Last time LCFC were 3rd after 4 games, they win the league. https://www.reddit.com/r/lcfc/comments/cxyp37/the_last_time_we_were_3rd_after_4_matches_we_won/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Edited 31 August 2019 by DrezZone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Bear said: Chucks himself into the leg if you ask me. Years of throwing yourself to the ground comes back to bite you eventually. No he did does not 😂, that is a poor decision from the ref, he was fouled 100%, ref should of played on! Edited 31 August 2019 by lestajigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 VAR is shite because the standard of reffing in this country is shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 4 hours ago, bfox said: Chelsea going to struggle to stay in the top 10 at this rate They are with Kurt Zouma at CB. The lad is an absolute car crash waiting to happen. That said, the racist abuse he's taken this afternoon is just disgusting. Makes me sad that we've got to the point where a high-profile black player makes an error and you just know that some absolute scumbags are going to give them abuse on social media. It's becoming the norm which is a sad indictment of society. That said, I do think top flight footballers could do with growing a pair, foregoing the extra ££££'s they absolutely don't need and staging a social media blackout for a week or two. To show solidarity if nothing else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 20 minutes ago, Paddy. said: They are with Kurt Zouma at CB. The lad is an absolute car crash waiting to happen. That said, the racist abuse he's taken this afternoon is just disgusting. Makes me sad that we've got to the point where a high-profile black player makes an error and you just know that some absolute scumbags are going to give them abuse on social media. It's becoming the norm which is a sad indictment of society. That said, I do think top flight footballers could do with growing a pair, foregoing the extra ££££'s they absolutely don't need and staging a social media blackout for a week or two. To show solidarity if nothing else. Indeed, absolutely nothing wrong with any criticism and opinions of a players performance, no matter how harsh. But going into skin colour is completely disgraceful even by chelsea standards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Carl the Llama said: Here's a better clip. If you watch where he's looking he's just focused on getting the pass away, doesn't even try to claim a pen because he's too busy watching on to see if Lansbury can finish it. Friend's got that very wrong imo. Probably because he just does that little dive forward at the end. If he hadn't done that and it had looked more 'natural' he probably wouldn't have been booked. The last angle on your clip from the back kind of makes it understandably in as an instant reaction from the referee. Edited 31 August 2019 by ARTY_FOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 5 hours ago, DerbyshireFox said: Chris Sutton just said we’ll finish top six on 5 live. Nearly passed out 😵. Tempered with saying Youri should have gone today Is it too soon to call him a two-faced bellend? Let's remind him what a proverbial horses arse he is if Rangers win the Old Firm tomorrow. Kingy winner from the bench PLEASE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 Just now, ARTY_FOX said: Probably because he just does that little dive forward at the end. If he hadn't done that and it had looked more 'natural' he probably wouldn't have been booked. 100% the way he tumbles makes the ref think he's angling for a peno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, bfox said: Indeed, absolutely nothing wrong with any criticism and opinions of a players performance, no matter how harsh. But going into skin colour is completely disgraceful even by chelsea standards It's quite remarkable that a club that barely had an Englishman play for them for the best part of a decade are suddenly the BNP Lite. They're letting actually having the odd home nations player in their line-up go to their heads. Inb4 someone thinks I'm being serious and not just making the point that, for however much they try to paint it as a 'right on' city, some of the most cretinous bellsniffs to carry a British passport come from within the confines of the M25. Edited 31 August 2019 by OntarioFox Typos - phone is wank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 You have to remember VAR will only correct the ref if it’s clear and obvious. That there’s a debate existing throughout social media on Grealish, Tielemans, Haller....suggests it’s debatable and therefore not clear/obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve_Walsh5 Posted 31 August 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2019 The worse thing about the Grealish incident is that he’s not even appealing for a penalty. You can see he’s totally focused on getting the pass off. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 31 August 2019 Share Posted 31 August 2019 How wasn't the Newcastle equaliser ruled out? Hit his arm falling to Schar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rorab Posted 1 September 2019 Share Posted 1 September 2019 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: How wasn't the Newcastle equaliser ruled out? Hit his arm falling to Schar? Because the VAR officials are too incompetent to enforce their own rules even with replays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rorab Posted 1 September 2019 Share Posted 1 September 2019 1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: The worse thing about the Grealish incident is that he’s not even appealing for a penalty. You can see he’s totally focused on getting the pass off. Yeah, it's mind-boggling to me that that wasn't overruled. I feel like the line being parroted of clear and obvious error is essentially a get-out clause to not change any decisions they haven't strictly made binary. for whatever reason. At the end of the day, what IS a clear and obvious error? Who decides what constitutes clear and obvious? It feels like a massive cop-out, that they've just allowed the refs to make the wrong decision frequently on that basis - because at the end of the day, I think you can explain any or try to justify any contentious decision in football - and once you can do that, then is anything a clear and obvious error to the VAR officials? They have a clear stance on right and wrong for offside and handball, therefore they have overturned decisions, whereas stuff like penalty decisions, and red cards you just can't make binary - and it feels like because there's always room for doubt, they've used that as an excuse to just allow shit decisions to happen, when they've given the impression VAR will try to cut down the amount of shit decisions. If they just planned to overturn offsides and handball, fine - as long as they said that's their aim, then it'd be fine - but they shouldn't pretend they might overturn decisions if they just won't because it's just a waste of time, and just a mockery of what they claimed VAR would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Big Balls Posted 1 September 2019 Share Posted 1 September 2019 (edited) The Grealish incident isn't a VAR issue imo. There is no way VAR can do anything because the referee blows the whistle before the ball goes in. If it's overturned then what could they even do? Palace will argue their players were affected by the whistle. For me it was just completely incompetent refereeing that would've happened with or without VAR. It's never a dive and should never have been given. The fact that the referee hasn't let it go for another 5 seconds or so is another error on the referees part, that way if it was a dive it could've been ruled out anyway. I think he panicked and clutched at the chance to give the foul and has to be soley to blame. Edited 1 September 2019 by Billy Big Balls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey O'Neil Posted 1 September 2019 Share Posted 1 September 2019 (edited) I’m struggling with the Grealish incident tbh. I’m not seeing what you all are. I’m definitely not saying I’m right because clearly nobody else is talking crap like me. But I’ve watched that clip loads and wouldn’t have liked to have called it because I’m just not seeing it how you all do. It looks like a dive to me. Does anyone think he was fouled but made a meal of it? I know he didn’t claim a foul but tbh, I’d have according to you all, wrongly booked him for diving because that’s what it looked like to me. I’m off to watch it again because I’m missing the bloody obvious Edited 1 September 2019 by Mickey O'Neil Make clearer my explanation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 1 September 2019 Share Posted 1 September 2019 My main arguments against VAR have been the passion it will drain from the game but if that Haller penalty can't be given then I cannot see how a single person can justify keeping it for any reason. It's as obvious a penalty as you'll see and they haven't overturned it. If they're not overturning that, then why waste the time and have it anyway? Admit it was a big error and get it gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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