jammie82uk Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, twister said: its clearly accidental and had not part in how the goal was scored If the ball don’t hit his arm he then doesn’t get control of the ball and wouldn’t be able to set up the goal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, Unabomber said: What even is the handball rule? Apparently if it hits a hand it's a free kick. There are so many examples of this not being followed this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Unabomber said: What even is the handball rule? If the ball hits an attackers hand/arm in the build up to a goal accidentally or not, it's disallowed Edited 10 January 2020 by foxfanazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Fabianski would have saved that goal Martin let in. West Ham's record is so poor without him. Wonder if he'll be out for long? Could they actually drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, foxfanazer said: If the ball hits an attackers hand in the build up to a goal accidentally or not, it's disallowed Seems harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, foxfanazer said: They have to give it in fairness. We ask for consistency Yep. We've seen it ourselves at the KP this season. In some incidents it's been fair but tonight that's harsh, Sheff Utd player headed it onto Rice's arm, what can the poor guy do in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, Unabomber said: Seems harsh It is. But they can't change it halfway through the season so they were right to disallow this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 1 minute ago, Unabomber said: Seems harsh well harsh when you consider that if it hits the defenders arm it's not handball but if it hits the striker's arm it is. how can that work. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Right. Anyone questioning that needs to realise the hand aids Rice being able to play the pass and assist Snodgrass. The hand doesnt come into play that phase of play doesnt happen and Rice gets forced wide. Quite simple really. I would argue however that's point blank range but yeah, handball. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 (edited) I know its a bit harsh but... Couldn't happen to a nicer team Edited 10 January 2020 by Nalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, Unabomber said: Seems harsh Not really. Takes away the interpretation angle of different referees views and it's clear for literally everyone. If the ball hits the arm and it leads to a goal, it gets chalked off. Simple as. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Clubs signed up to this. Clubs can get rid of it if they want. Up to them now to accept it or change it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 State of Sheffield United fans celebrating it. Wasn't a long ago they were all saying how bad VAR is after the Newcastle game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Not really. Takes away the interpretation angle of different referees views and it's clear for literally everyone. If the ball hits the arm and it leads to a goal, it gets chalked off. Simple as. but how can it be handball if the striker does it but not handball if the defender does it, just because of what happens 30 seconds later? it's absolute bollocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 You can't celebrate a goal anymore. The first thought after every goal now is what will VAR have spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 1 minute ago, Corky said: Clubs signed up to this. Clubs can get rid of it if they want. Up to them now to accept it or change it. Can they? Thought it was Premier League deciding it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 Just now, ScouseFox said: but how can it be handball if the striker does it but not handball if the defender does it, just because of what happens 30 seconds later? it's absolute bollocks. Yeah that point I'll agree with in that it's odd for attackers and defenders. But everyone knows that's the case and people blaming VAR here are pointing their anger in the wrong direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfkino Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Not really. Takes away the interpretation angle of different referees views and it's clear for literally everyone. If the ball hits the arm and it leads to a goal, it gets chalked off. Simple as. Its a shit rule that's completely inconsistent with how handball is applied otherwise. It's absolute nonsense to have a rule that depends entirely on the outcome of the situation. The funny thing is, if Snodgrass has the option to square it and they score from that it's not disallowed, yet what would really be the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: Not really. Takes away the interpretation angle of different referees views and it's clear for literally everyone. If the ball hits the arm and it leads to a goal, it gets chalked off. Simple as. Yeah it definitely is a harsh rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 VAR doesn’t come in to it anymore anyway we all already know how shit that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 5 minutes ago, Nalis said: I know its a bit harsh but... Couldn't happen to a nicer team ... or manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 If he doesn't control it with his arm the goal doesn't go in. I have no issue with those getting ruled out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 3 minutes ago, Spudulike said: You can't celebrate a goal anymore. The first thought after every goal now is what will VAR have spotted. The West Ham players, manager and fans seemed to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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st albans fox Posted 10 January 2020 Share Posted 10 January 2020 9 minutes ago, jammie82uk said: If the ball don’t hit his arm he then doesn’t get control of the ball and wouldn’t be able to set up the goal 6 minutes ago, Ashley said: Right. Anyone questioning that needs to realise the hand aids Rice being able to play the pass and assist Snodgrass. The hand doesnt come into play that phase of play doesnt happen and Rice gets forced wide. Quite simple really. I would argue however that's point blank range but yeah, handball. Just now, ealingfox said: If he doesn't control it with his arm the goal doesn't go in. I have no issue with those getting ruled out. Totally agree - where is the problem .....the contact with the arm creates the chance for the pass and the goal ......that’s what the new law is for ....hands and arms cannot be involved in scoring goals .........whether it’s the scorer or the creator of the scoring opp ......I like the rule - the defender will argue that he got his head to it to clear and rice’s arm gets in the way .... I appreciate people will argue about it being different for defenders and contact with the arm but that risks people just blasting the ball at arms or flicking it at hands in the area to get pens ...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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