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Another one that got away !!

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Some people are properly obsessed with the past. The one that “got away” and we “should never have sold him” behave. He looked doggo in the main here

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we literally won the league based on the fact we told him to do one and played vardy instead. honest to god. 

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He’s an example to use for young talented potential signings. We had a belief he would be good but he wouldn’t have got in with Vardy and therefore wouldn’t have become the player he is so far if he didn’t move on. But we let him go for his own benefit and not stunted his growth like some other clubs

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1 hour ago, ScouseFox said:

we literally won the league based on the fact we told him to do one and played vardy instead. honest to god. 

Yeah but he’s the one that got away

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2 hours ago, SystonFox said:

Some people are properly obsessed with the past. The one that “got away” and we “should never have sold him” behave. He looked doggo in the main here

Well he didn't, he looked quality but we didn't seem to be able to fit him into our system. 

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4 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Well he didn't, he looked quality but we didn't seem to be able to fit him into our system. 

very, very selective memory there. he scored about 3 times in like 2 years and missed about 4 sitters in each cameo appearance he made. he was rubbish for us. as most other people have said, you could watch parts of his game and think if he changed most of it then he could be a good player, but thankfully we cut our losses and won the league.

 

if it was up to most people on here we’d have kept him and not played vardy. in fact judging by this thread some people still seem to think we made the wrong decision. 

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Straightforward really, yes a really good player and scores goals for fun but that one season did Shinji and Vardy work together as a striking pair, history will say Ranieri made the right call. The guy wanted game time maybe he would have got more the following season. At the same time everybody wanted Cambiasso to stay for another season could we manage without him, would we have signed Kante, Hindsight is such a gift. 

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10 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Well he didn't, he looked quality but we didn't seem to be able to fit him into our system. 

Doggo was perhaps a tad harsh. It just didn’t work

 

bUt HeS tHe oNe tHaT gOt AwAy

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1 minute ago, ScouseFox said:

very, very selective memory there. he scored about 3 times in like 2 years and missed about 4 sitters in each cameo appearance he made. he was rubbish for us. as most other people have said, you could watch parts of his game and think if he changed most of it then he could be a good player, but thankfully we cut our losses and won the league.

 

if it was up to most people on here we’d have kept him and not played vardy. in fact judging by this thread some people still seem to think we made the wrong decision. 

I seem to remember him playing when the whole team was disjointed and were pretty much devoid of all confidence. You could tell (well at least I could) that the bloke would go places and was cut above what we had technically and I was very sad to see him leave.

 

It turned out that we hit jackpot anyway so nothing to worry about. 

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Let's go with the premis that he is a good player but was unsuited to the pl....

Again this is an example of a lack of develooment of players.  We cant expect a young player to sort it out themselves.  On arrival there should be have been a programme to help him adjust and develop the habits... skills... strength and decision making for the pl.   Anyone know if we did so?

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Quality player and was always going to end up doing well for himself.

 

Croatia must be one of the most hard working international teams about, so I'd say he's absolutely fine in a team that presses the ball. Also he ran about 80 yards back to make a goal line clearance not long before we got rid of him.

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I'm obviously missing something with him "The 1 that got away..." he's been playing for Hoffenheim who finished 9th in an overall average league last season and for all the talk of him being a hot-shot has he in the past 3 seasons been the subject of approach by any big team?

 

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remember well an interview with Claudio early on when asked if Krameric was injured his reply was simply enough. No I think we are better with Okazaki. Wasn't wrong cos we won the league.

 

No disrespect to the lad and seemed a great signing at the time but took too long to settle and was overtaken by others. It happens. as others have said, right player, wrong time so not really "one that got away". Who is to say that he would ever have developed here.

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Some players / managers are just the right fit at the right time and sometimes it's the complete opposite.

 

eg

Andrej Kramaric has done better away from us.

Nigel Pearson hasn't done better away from us.

 

Ian Holloway has had some great moments as a manager... our memory of him is very different.

 

'Twas ever thus.

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It was the right decision to fringe him and loan him out when we did but I'd argue we should have brought him back into the fold and given him another chance, either at the start of 16/17 Or after another 6 months loan at Hoffenheim.

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On 28/05/2019 at 18:17, Col city fan said:

Who gives a shite? Really?

He left and we moved on

Ok let's adopt this great philosophical wisdom and never post anything concerning ex players/ staff again.

 

'We move on' surely one of the cringe statements in the game these days

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Ben Alounane

 

Born and raised in France.

 

He hadn’t played for Tunisia before they qualified for the World Cup in Russia. He hasn’t played since. 

 

I’d say that’s opportunistic. 

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He was a talented player but he badly needed to mature when he was with us.

 

My abiding memory of him sums his time with us up.

 The Swansea home game during our great escape, we're desperate for a goal. Kramaric cuts in from the left, performs a ridiculous stepover to beat the Swansea CB, the keeper's still on his line, he's got the whole goal to aim at.....he tries to curl it into the top right corner and ends up missing badly. 

 

Happy to see him doing well but it would have never worked for him since he needed time to mature. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, somebum said:

Ok let's adopt this great philosophical wisdom and never post anything concerning ex players/ staff again.

 

'We move on' surely one of the cringe statements in the game these days

:o

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He never really fitted in and was rarely used by any manager. Who bought him?

 

The fact that he has gone on to do well for Hoffenheim just shows the gulf between the Bundesliga and the EPL!!

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2 hours ago, David Hankey said:

He never really fitted in and was rarely used by any manager. Who bought him?

 

The fact that he has gone on to do well for Hoffenheim just shows the gulf between the Bundesliga and the EPL!!

Does it? I don't deny that the standard of football in the Premier League is currently higher, but that's a very sweeping statement, ridiculous in fact. I'm sure it also has a lot to do with him playing regularly, maturing and working with one of the best young managers in Europe. Let's not that he's also played well at International level.

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