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7 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

For all the improvement on Chilwell's performance last night, it's still staggering how many teams he manages to run the ball out of play or have a brain malfunction that prevents him from doing the basics. Yet on the other hand he makes the game seem so easy with the way he carries the ball up pitch and drives us on. 

 

I know he is a confidence player and therefore berating him for poor play is immoral and detrimental but I find it so difficult to accept the roughness around his game. I see why the likes of Pep wants him though, convinced that can be ironed out, where as a fair few of us aren't sure. What do we know ay?

think we have to learn to just enjoy it. that's what i've decided. it was the same with schlupp, with dyer, even with someone as good as kante. sensational players to watch sometimes, but very capable of making you actually laugh out loud at the sheer stupidity of some of their touches. just roll with it and enjoy it innit. 

 

if one option is chilwell making 10 runs from the edge of our box to the edge of their's and completing a dribble or making a successful pass 6 or 7 times, but falling over or just running straight out of play 2 or 3 times, and the other option is he just passes it to jonny evans every time, i know which one i'd prefer. 

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Apparent weaknesses: 

*Defensive positioning / playing the opposition onside

*Final ball / choice of pass 

 

Obvious Strengths: 

*Running with the ball / penetrating runs from own half to the opposition box or final third 

*General athleticism and fitness

*Actually a very decent and much improved defender if rated without the positional/offside aspect. 

 

Major reason to err on the side of encouragement over a lambasted approach: 

*Brilliant talent, England international that came through our academy. 

 

I can understand the recent criticism, but I can't understand the recent vitriol towards him on here. 

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4 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Fantastic game yesterday.

 

Also I noticed the crowd appreciating him more even when things didn’t pay off, one time he overran the ball out for a goal kick and on the trek back to left back people were clapping him for the effort. We need to do that more often.

He'd be cheered for that every time. 

 

HE needs to be doing that more often. 

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21 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

think we have to learn to just enjoy it. that's what i've decided. it was the same with schlupp, with dyer, even with someone as good as kante. sensational players to watch sometimes, but very capable of making you actually laugh out loud at the sheer stupidity of some of their touches. just roll with it and enjoy it innit. 

 

if one option is chilwell making 10 runs from the edge of our box to the edge of their's and completing a dribble or making a successful pass 6 or 7 times, but falling over or just running straight out of play 2 or 3 times, and the other option is he just passes it to jonny evans every time, i know which one i'd prefer. 

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21 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

think we have to learn to just enjoy it. that's what i've decided. it was the same with schlupp, with dyer, even with someone as good as kante. sensational players to watch sometimes, but very capable of making you actually laugh out loud at the sheer stupidity of some of their touches. just roll with it and enjoy it innit. 

 

if one option is chilwell making 10 runs from the edge of our box to the edge of their's and completing a dribble or making a successful pass 6 or 7 times, but falling over or just running straight out of play 2 or 3 times, and the other option is he just passes it to jonny evans every time, i know which one i'd prefer. 

Too few football fans enjoy imperfection. 

 

I used to enjoy Frank Sinclair's gaffs. Super player but prone to horrific footballing suicide. The more grotesque the better for Frank.

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This slating of Chilwell does my head in. We have England's left back for Christ's sake, not a thing that we have said too often in our history.

I have been watching Leicester for 60 years & he is up there with Nish & Rofe as the best I have seen in that position. But it seems we have to be able to barrack somebody, perhaps we should bring Gray back in so that he can be abused & possibly take the heat off Chilly.

Any club in the Prem would be delighted to have him & probably will shortly, I suppose lots of people will be happy then

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Just now, Angus Scott said:

This slating of Chilwell does my head in. We have England's left back for Christ's sake, not a thing that we have said too often in our history.

I have been watching Leicester for 60 years & he is up there with Nish & Rofe as the best I have seen in that position. But it seems we have to be able to barrack somebody, perhaps we should bring Gray back in so that he can be abused & possibly take the heat off Chilly.

Any club in the Prem would be delighted to have him & probably will shortly, I suppose lots of people will be happy then

Nope, they will moan like crazy and depending how successful his replacement is, they may continue to moan .......

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2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Nope, they will moan like crazy and depending how successful his replacement is, they may continue to moan .......

No way is he in Nish's class that is ridiculous.

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9 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

No way is he in Nish's class that is ridiculous.

I didn’t say he was but I’m firmly of the opinion that you can’t compare across the generations in any case ....the game is more about athleticism now and less about talent ....unless you’re a messi 

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12 hours ago, Angus Scott said:

This slating of Chilwell does my head in. We have England's left back for Christ's sake, not a thing that we have said too often in our history.

I have been watching Leicester for 60 years & he is up there with Nish & Rofe as the best I have seen in that position. But it seems we have to be able to barrack somebody, perhaps we should bring Gray back in so that he can be abused & possibly take the heat off Chilly.

Any club in the Prem would be delighted to have him & probably will shortly, I suppose lots of people will be happy then

It’s all about opinions, I’ve been supporting us for over 50 yrs and think he is bang average.

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31 minutes ago, Claridge said:

It’s all about opinions, 

I'm glad you said that. I think you're right btw and it also gives me the perfect excuse to say my piece!

 

I do rate Chilwell highly, certainly more than average though I'd hesitate to go much more than that. I'd certainly not offer an opinion on whether he's the best LB we've ever had though I'd say he's amongst the best... 'best' is so subjective anyway.

 

For me, his pluses are that's quick and direct. His charges forward can put us on the front foot. However, I get the impression that he often doesn't know what to do when he gets there! He maybe doesn't trust himself as it seems to me that he can take the overly cautious option in retaining possession (i.e. a backwards pass that loses the momentum we've gained) His passing and crossing has become worse of late and I hope that's just a phase he's going through and is confidence related. Defensively, he does switch off - particularly on his post and he will lose track of runners. 

 

His game has improved markedly over the years but he appears to have plateaued, maybe even stagnated, of late. He's young enough to learn though, and I do expect his positioning and reading of the game to improve further. 

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I suppose, yes, in some respects. As I recall, Schlupp was perhaps a little more headless than Chilwell though, and more robust/aggressive. But that's off the top of my head, I'd have to revisit memories of Schlupp - my treasured recollections are of his wayward shooting! (Chilwell seems to be very half hearted in that regard, like he doesn't even want to shoot, doesn't want the responsibility. As I say, he seems to lack confidence at times)   

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I think both of them lack a footballing brain and technical  ability. They have excellent physical attributes, but I’m not sure schlupp has improved and I’m doubtful Chilwell will.  Obviously it’s the vast sums mentioned for his services, that makes some people look at his negatives, maybe more harshly.

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I’m a big Chilwell fan and it can’t help that our own ‘fans’? have been giving him stick, but what’s happened to him? 
Where’s his confidence gone? He literally looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of months back

I think Chilwell’s lack of form has been the biggest change of all in our performances. He can’t seem to find a pass at the moment
It’s bizarre...

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1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

I’m a big Chilwell fan and it can’t help that our own ‘fans’? have been giving him stick, but what’s happened to him? 
Where’s his confidence gone? He literally looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of months back

I think Chilwell’s lack of form has been the biggest change of all in our performances. He can’t seem to find a pass at the moment
It’s bizarre...

Fock me, this has to be the most ironic post ever

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10 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’m a big Chilwell fan and it can’t help that our own ‘fans’? have been giving him stick, but what’s happened to him? 
Where’s his confidence gone? He literally looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of months back

I think Chilwell’s lack of form has been the biggest change of all in our performances. He can’t seem to find a pass at the moment
It’s bizarre...

I hate to go over old ground but he could never find a pass anyway,

just seems to be more obvious on the back of a defeat than a win,

nothing changed it’s like others say and I’ve been saying for 2-3 season now that he’s an average player at best,

you’ll get the odd 7-8/10 off him once in a blue moon,

but generally 4-6/10 most other weeks

 

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There is a good player in there somewhere and when he learns to use his right foot a bit he will improve considerably.

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Another poor game but in that first half he was playing almost as a CB with Barnes as a wing back. I can only assume Brendan told him to do that, to mirror Villa's 3 at the back. That was a very poor decision from him because Chilwell didn't know whether he was coming or going. 

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1 minute ago, Blue-fox said:

He did one great defensive header in the second half. 

Yeah he saved what probably would have been a goal with that defensive header.

 

He was ok today but you can also see he’s lost a bit of the confidence and he’s second guessing stuff he’s normally have done without thinking before.

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Was it a tactical choice for him to be so defensive in the first half?

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