Jump to content
happy85

Ben Chilwell

Recommended Posts

We lose a semi final and planks on this site are concerned that players hug each other before the game kicks off. Don’t know if these knowledgable football fans are aware that every player shakes every opposition players hands before kick off. Maybe that’s where we go wrong. 
Nothing to do with beating the goalie as long as we look hard in the tunnel or before we kick off 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I prefer the Gary Coatsworth approach for City against Derby in the play off final myself.

They are lining up in the tunnel at Wembley, and Derbys Tommy Johnson turns to Citys Gary Coatsworth and says "we`re about to run out at Wembley, isnt it fantastic mate"?  Coatsworth says nothing, then bends down and puts his nose right into Johnsons face, and shouts "Fvck off"!!

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, WoodyFox said:

Really doesn’t help himself does he...
 

maybe its just modern football?

personally i like them to be focused on going to war like Vera and Keane used to be pre match.

Even during the match some are very pally with the opposition 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Seen plenty of city fans having a cry because Chilwell hugged his (Villa) mates before the game. 

 

If you’re one of these people you have too much time on your hands. Go read a book, or have a beer. Relax.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

Seen plenty of city fans having a cry because Chilwell hugged his (Villa) mates before the game. 

 

If you’re one of these people you have too much time on your hands. Go read a book, or have a beer. Relax.

I think its because the team lacked a bit of an edge over both legs. I personally liked too see how Keane, Neville etc, had some hostility before a game. Made the game better.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, Ollie93 said:

I think its because the team lacked a bit of an edge over both legs. I personally liked too see how Keane, Neville etc, had some hostility before a game. Made the game better.

Modern football has changed. You won’t see rivalries like that anymore. Plus, they hated each other off the pitch too. Chilwell is mates with a lot of those boys in the video. Do people genuinely think by him doing that we handed a small advantage to Villa? Bare in mind that was Ben’s best performance in recent weeks.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Modern football has changed. You won’t see rivalries like that anymore. Plus, they hated each other off the pitch too. Chilwell is mates with a lot of those boys in the video. Do people genuinely think by him doing that we handed a small advantage to Villa? Bare in mind that was Ben’s best performance in recent weeks.

Of course, I dont think it gives Villa an advantage. I think people think he should be more focused on the game, save all that for afters?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Modern football has changed. You won’t see rivalries like that anymore. Plus, they hated each other off the pitch too. Chilwell is mates with a lot of those boys in the video. Do people genuinely think by him doing that we handed a small advantage to Villa? Bare in mind that was Ben’s best performance in recent weeks.

This is spot on

For the many fans who idolise modern day footballers... don’t. They generally see it as their ‘job’. They put up with playing and all the media bollox and everything else because they get so well paid

This notion of rivalry between players of different teams has largely disappeared. As the poster above says, players will be mates with different players at different teams.

It’s for this reason that I have some much respect for exceptions to the rule, like Vardy. Jamie had the chance to move to London to play for Arsenal and to earn more money. But something made him stay. Probably his position at Leicester, his home and I genuinely feel his love for the club.

But most players aren’t like Vardy. Indeed, many players actually don’t particularly like football. They do it because they are good at it and it pays them ridiculous money.

The days of Keane v Viera are largely gone. This is probably why Keane gets so frustrated at Man Utd these days. He wants to see more passion in the players.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Roy Keane was and still is a misanthropic , cynical , nasty piece of work . Roy Keane is also one of the greatest players of the last twenty years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Roy Keane was and still is a misanthropic , cynical , nasty piece of work . Roy Keane is also one of the greatest players of the last twenty years.

Maybe I should’ve been better at football than I was. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
49 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Roy Keane was and still is a misanthropic , cynical , nasty piece of work . Roy Keane is also one of the greatest players of the last twenty years.

Who in the current premier league is most like Roy Keane in your opinion?

 

Those days are over football moves on. The game has evolved and players are different now. Crying because Chillwell embraced a couple of villa players isn't going to change that.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, WoodyFox said:

Really doesn’t help himself does he...
 

Everyone just gonna ignore Barnes was also hugging his mates?

 

If you're a grown man getting upset by this then that is very troubling.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is this really a big deal? Our fan base these days is so entitled and just jump on players backs either by booing or abusing them on social media. Its embaressing, the fact that 9/10 of these people who hurl abuse at our players via a keyboard or from the terraces would jump at the chance for a selfie with them if they saw them in the street. 

 

Our fan base will drive players out the club

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Who in the current premier league is most like Roy Keane in your opinion?

 

Those days are over football moves on. The game has evolved and players are different now. Crying because Chillwell embraced a couple of villa players isn't going to change that.   

If Hamza works really hard at it he has the potential to be the most feared midfielder in the PL . When Man City come here he can start by giving Mahrez a very hard time. A couple of crunching (hopefully fair) tackles and Pep will be getting his hook out.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

Seen plenty of city fans having a cry because Chilwell hugged his (Villa) mates before the game. 

 

If you’re one of these people you have too much time on your hands. Go read a book, or have a beer. Relax.

I think most will appreciate he has friends who play for other clubs, as many of us fans are friends with people who follow other teams.

 

But there's a difference between that and not being focused moments before a huge cup game when his mentality is already clearly a problem that frustrates many City fans. 

 

He just is not in the zone at all. 

Edited by Stuntman_Mike
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I think most will appreciate he has friends who play for other clubs, as many of us fans are friends with people who follow other teams.

 

But there's a difference between that and not being focused moments before a huge cup game when his mentality is already clearly a problem that frustrates many City fans. 

 

He just is not in the zone at all. 

Like I said previously, modern footballers deal with pressure or nerves in different ways. Ben played pretty well Tuesday night and if him having a little chinwag with his pal helped him do that then he can crack on. We don’t have Gary Neville’s/Gerrard’s/Keanes playing these day who on Tuesday would have just stared ahead in silence. But I get your point. Maybe Tuesday will prove to be part of a major learning curve for our extremely young side. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Like I said previously, modern footballers deal with pressure or nerves in different ways. Ben played pretty well Tuesday night and if him having a little chinwag with his pal helped him do that then he can crack on. We don’t have Gary Neville’s/Gerrard’s/Keanes playing these day who on Tuesday would have just stared ahead in silence. But I get your point. Maybe Tuesday will prove to be part of a major learning curve for our extremely young side. 

Did he play well?

 

He didn’t pass the ball to the opponents 9/10 times which he has been doing of late for weeks on end, but arguably he was a fault for the first goal in letting the ball bounce in the centre circle and falling over rather than dealing with it. After 10 minutes of the game he showed no inclination to use his pace to run up the line, but continued to pass inside sideways or backwards.

 

While it may be improvement on the diabolical times of misplacing 22 passes in one half that we have actually witnessed I think you are somewhat ‘over egging’ what he contributed on Tuesday.

Edited by NotTheMarketLeader
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Did he play well?

 

He didn’t pass the ball to the opponents 9/10 times which he has been doing of late for weeks on end, but arguably he was a fault for the first goal in letting the ball bounce in the centre circle and falling over rather than dealing with it. After 10 minutes of the game he showed no inclination to use his pace to run up the line, but continued to pass inside sideways or backwards.

 

While it may be improvement on the diabolical times of misplacing 22 passes in one half that we have actually witnessed I think you are somewhat ‘over egging’ what he contributed on Tuesday.

Ok. Well I thought he was probably a 7-7.5/10 and if our entire XI played at 7-7.5 we might have won. I thought he went back to basics which was pleasing. He defended well and like you said, didn’t give the ball away as much like he has done for fun lately. Maybe my point has come across as generous on his performance. That was not my intention, I’m just stating that footballers these days are very different to what they used to be. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He had a decent game on Tuesday.  They all did.  We didn’t lose because Ben Chilwell hugged Jack Grealish in the tunnel beforehand.  
 

We lost because sometimes in football, you lose.  Sometimes in football, the loss happens in an incredibly painful way.

 

This is how it was, how it is and how it will always be.  Also what hasn’t changed is football fans losing their shit over fvck all. We’re all guilty of it, including myself.

 

Best thing to do when it’s pointed out to you is to just sigh, say fair enough and look forward to the next game.  Doubling down and trying to rationalise an opinion that we weren’t ‘in the zone’ because some mates were hugging each other before a game is just bollocks.

 

We played well.  We created chances that were denied by heroics and we also wasted quite a lot of opportunities too.  Tough shit.

 

Ben Chilwell is the best English left back by far.  He’s come up through the youth ranks and cemented a place in our first team.  A team that currently sits third in the Premier League.  He does have off games as all players do, but for people to try and make out that he hasn’t got the talent that he does have is bloody ridiculous and hugely disappointing.
 

In terms of young talent this Leicester team is by far the best we’ve probably ever seen and are ever likely to see.

 

The hardest times as a supporter is to get behind the lads when the chips are down.  This isn’t even one of those times!  The chips are still very much up!! 
 

I understand people are frustrated, we all are.  We all wanted to go to Wembley, we all wanted to win a cup but it isn’t happening (at least not in the league cup),  but we can secure Champions League qualification but we’re not going to do it if we are getting on the players backs and stripping away their confidence bit by bit.

 

Sort it the fvck out.

 

Edited by Realist Guy In The Room
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Like I said previously, modern footballers deal with pressure or nerves in different ways. Ben played pretty well Tuesday night and if him having a little chinwag with his pal helped him do that then he can crack on. We don’t have Gary Neville’s/Gerrard’s/Keanes playing these day who on Tuesday would have just stared ahead in silence. But I get your point. Maybe Tuesday will prove to be part of a major learning curve for our extremely young side. 

A lot of these youngsters are internationals and have played in tournaments through the age groups, Chillwell in particular having played for England in front of 70000 plus.

Im not sure there is that much to be gained from playing in a 2nd rate cup competition at a ground you visit in the league once a year and your team are in 3rd place.

It would be different if we were in the championship and it’s a new experience with the possibility of European football and there was a lot of pressure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...