Popular Post Gerard Posted 23 September 2020 Popular Post Posted 23 September 2020 I'm certainly not in the "move on" camp. The truth is we don't know the details, maybe we were given a price or a bit of encouragement. It seems strange to me that we've made three bids without some dialogue with St Etienne. My strategy would be to leave it on the table as a final offer but start making contingency plans for another CB. Things might sort themselves out nearer the end of the window. 6
moore_94 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 Just now, MGLCFC said: So he should act in the best interests of the club and business. Now if keeping an unhappy player who might cause disruption to the squad if he doesn't get the move he has wanted is in the best interest of the club, then fair enough. But £30m is an awfully large sum of money to turn down for a 19 year old with potential. They also believe he will sell for £50m+ next summer if they keep hold of him, and he is showing no signs of causing issues in terms of being unwilling to play Also from the dressing room videos after the Marseille win it doesn’t really look like he is causing much disruption
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 6 hours ago, Livid said: €30 million for a 19 year old with only a few games under his belt does seem a bit excessive. Then again Claude or St Ettiene turning it down is a little crazy as well. ...If he has a good season then the price would probably rise to 50m Euros!!! This will be where your big teams step in, create a bidding war and blow us out of the water.We know the upside of this deal, the big boys do not have to worry this season, they will pick him up next season with their loose change.
Guest Markyblue Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...If he has a good season then the price would probably rise to 50m Euros!!! This will be where your big teams step in, create a bidding war and blow us out of the water.We know the upside of this deal, the big boys do not have to worry this season, they will pick him up next season with their loose change. And he breaks a leg and is worth nothing, crystal balls dont exist.
MGLCFC Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 5 minutes ago, moore_94 said: They also believe he will sell for £50m+ next summer if they keep hold of him, and he is showing no signs of causing issues in terms of being unwilling to play Also from the dressing room videos after the Marseille win it doesn’t really look like he is causing much disruption With a second wave of COVID sweeping across Europe, transfer fees are only going in one direction. 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: Are you Benko's GP? He played a fair number of games for the mighty Celtic until buggered by a shite plastic pitch. He is too easily written off by some. ..that Celtic excursion was some time ago!!! He has constantly failed to play on a regular basis for sometime and the reticence of our supporters is well founded due to this. I doubt there will be anyone more frustrated than him and I hope he manages to turn his luck around.
Jattdogg Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 8 hours ago, Deeg67 said: If that's what you think, why do you want him in the first place? If he's the player we apparently think he is, Fofana'a value is only going to skyrocket. Meanwhile, St. Etienne is clearly responding to Puel and is on top of the table after allowing 2 goals in 4 matches. Just maybe they're more concerned about their own results this season than ours? I dont really want him though. I mean if he is that good then fair enough but clearly we dont want to pay X amount and they dont want to sell for X amount. Focus on someone else or increase the bid to something they wont refuse (or still tell you to do one). I just dont want us sitting there penny pinching only to get denied and then panic buy elsewhere.
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 2 minutes ago, Markyblue said: And he breaks a leg and is worth nothing, crystal balls dont exist. ...he is insured by his team!!! Your scenario can happen, but how often is that the case?
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Beechey Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 If we continue to bid for him then it's because we think we can get him. Keep going if that's the feeling the club have.
Jack1993 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 hour ago, RowlattsFox said: If St Etienne believe he could be worth more in a years time then maybe they're prepared to take the risk. Fofana can't just down tools because he won't impress future suitors. I'm still surprised no-one else appears to be interested in taking a risk on him at this stage. Personally think they're trying to call our bluff to try and milk us out of some more money. Once a player expresses a desire to go they usually do. We'll either go back in nearer the end of the window with a stupid bid, or they'll accept one of our previous ones. Or we'll sack it off. Thank you o wise one 1 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 4 minutes ago, Beechey said: If we continue to bid for him then it's because we think we can get him. Keep going if that's the feeling the club have. ..We did the same for Trincao!!! The deal was never on, that was a wasted chapter in this window.
Ric Flair Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..We did the same for Trincao!!! The deal was never on, that was a wasted chapter in this window. Until we agreed a deal for Ünder. The club are capable of having more than 1 option for each position and to bid on both, it's a myth we are incapable of widening our options. The reality is we don't let unnecessary gossip out about our targets so some of it is never really bandied about. 1 1
Ted Maul Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 We're being played at our own game by a bloke who used to play the game for us. He may well be desperate to come here, but Mahrez was desperate to go to Man City- we all know how everyone reacted to that. It shouldn't be the primary driving factor in a transfer and it certainly shouldn't mean that they have to sell on our terms.
hackneyfox Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..We did the same for Trincao!!! The deal was never on, that was a wasted chapter in this window. If there's a player we really want then you shouldn't just move on, we've done that in the past and ended up with a lesser player we can't move on a couple of seasons later.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 For all we know we could have moved but his agent keeps leaking stories if a bid to try and force saint etienne's hand. There's not many reliable sources on this - l'equipe is the gutter.
Beechey Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..We did the same for Trincao!!! The deal was never on, that was a wasted chapter in this window. If this guy is our #1, it's because we think he will fit us the best. We shouldn't stop trying to buy him unless the club have a concrete indication that we cannot get him, which evidently doesn't seem to be the case. 1
sylofox Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 The only problem with walking away now is we've shown our hand. Bidding 32m for a kid. Other clubs will say you want our finished article then pay for it. Probably priced our selves out of one or two deals.
st albans fox Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 minute ago, sylofox said: The only problem with walking away now is we've shown our hand. Bidding 32m for a kid. Other clubs will say you want our finished article then pay for it. Probably priced our selves out of one or two deals. We would simply deny it - no one will know all the details of any bid. it could be 32 inc 12 of addons which include 10m payable if fofana develops a vaccine for covid ! 2 1
sylofox Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 Just now, st albans fox said: We would simply deny it - no one will know all the details of any bid. it could be 32 inc 12 of addons which include 10m payable if fofana develops a vaccine for covid ! Even if its add ons weve still shown our hand and the 10% sell on. Clubs will know how far they can push. Also common knowledge we are short of a CB.
SmuelMartin Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 On 22/09/2020 at 07:18, Blue Fox 72 said: @SmuelMartin has said that he did an interview with SFE and was going to load it to his podcast website. Rather suspiciously something went wrong with the recording, so the podcast could not be published. If the interview does actually exist then I'm fairly sure that it could be posted somehow. Or maybe @SmuelMartin = SFE? Just saying. The podcast was published, then something went wrong with the hosting website for that particular episode and it just got removed from all platforms. If you’re genuinely desperate to hear his voice, message me and I should be able to send you the audio, I just can’t upload again for whatever reason. Probably a blessing because it was my first one and I was a bit shit. Can assure you though, SmuelMartin ≠ SFE 1
GingerrrFox Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 It’s a game of poker at this point (to use Rob Tanner’s analogy). ASSE have to find money from somewhere that’s fact, they are probably holding on to hope they can move others out and keep Fofana however that relies on others clubs wanting their shit and on Fofana being happy to stay, as much as people say it’s not down to the player whether he gets a move, he may be acting maturely right now but that can change quite quickly and keeping a player ransom is not a good look for clubs in the modern era. Players will think twice about moving to ASSE if they see how someone like Fofana has been treated. I still think they will cave eventually, financially they have to, as much as the little **** Puel might hate it.
jeffschlupp Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 There are too many people who think the way rejecting a bid works is that it's some voicemail on the end of a phone which just says 'no'. These are real human people who are speaking to each other, if they've bid three times there will clearly have been regular communication from both sides about asking prices. Let's say ASSE have set an asking price of €35m (just as we supposedly did at £90m for Maguire to start with), we've tested the waters up to €32m and they've not budged. It's now in City's court to say whether they go higher or not. You can't say 'walk away' or 'move on' if you have f*** all idea of what the negotiation stakes are at the moment. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Until we agreed a deal for Ünder. The club are capable of having more than 1 option for each position and to bid on both, it's a myth we are incapable of widening our options. The reality is we don't let unnecessary gossip out about our targets so some of it is never really bandied about. ...We could never have pulled off the Trincao deal!!!! Irrespective of the signing of Under. Trincao stated he wanted to stay at Barca. Even if we could have put £60m on the table he would not have come. Have you not noticed, that he is having a whale of a time playing alongside Messi. I am not sure where I indicated in my post that we are incapable of multitasking in respect of deals being done, it would be very naive to think on those lines.
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 September 2020 Posted 23 September 2020 12 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: If there's a player we really want then you shouldn't just move on, we've done that in the past and ended up with a lesser player we can't move on a couple of seasons later. ..There is want and the practicality of getting!!! He never wanted to come but we blithely pursued it.
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