Coronavirus Thread

[Izzy]

37 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

or pornhub did it.

[Jattdogg]

17 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Pretty sure a runny nose isn't a covid symptom so it sounds like a regular cold to me.

Over here the ontario government has a daily school screening tool and runny nose is a symptom they ask about.

 

Lookin more likely to be pornhubs fault though.

 

 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

10 hours ago, MonmoreStef said:

A big thing now that wasn’t the case a few months ago is we all know plenty of people who have had this economy killing virus.  I know of at least twenty people personally who’ve tested positive. Forget the scientists, forget the media and forget the clown running the Country. I’m far happier forming my opinion  from first hand experience of cases I know are true. I’m sure there’s people on here who know of hundreds who’ve had it. I’m sure these people will also be making their decisions and forming their opinions on these first hand accounts. 

And there will still be some like myself that don't know anyone that's had it. I know people that know people that have had it but nobody I know has had it. 

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, Jattdogg said:

I've got a sore throat, runny nose, slight  headache.  Hope this is just a typical common cold of sorts. I had 3 hours of sleep over the course of the night spread over the 8 hours i was trying to sleep. Just napped for 1.5 hours.

 

I dont even go anywhere  other than grocery shopping. I WFH so either my wife and kids passed me germs (none are sick though) or pornhub did it.

Get a large glass of whiskey and lemonade, boil it, drink it, go to bed and if you wake up and still got it, get tested.

[WigstonWanderer]

1 hour ago, Jattdogg said:

Over here the ontario government has a daily school screening tool and runny nose is a symptom they ask about.

 

Lookin more likely to be pornhubs fault though.

 

 

Yes, runny nose is sometimes mentioned here in Aus as well. It seems opinion is divided.

[Costock_Fox]

21 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Get a large glass of whiskey and lemonade, boil it, drink it, go to bed and if you wake up and still got it, get tested.

The new hands, face, space this.

[Smudge]

 @JattdoggI would have thought that if you have a cold, you could have caught any airborne virus. Stay Safe 

Edited 14 November 2020 by Smudge

[cropstonfox]

No covid allowed in Garden centres

though?

judging by the Covid free crowds rammed into Palmers this afternoon.

 

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, Costock_Fox said:

The new hands, face, space this.

Gets rid of colds, guaranteed.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

11 hours ago, cropstonfox said:

No covid allowed in Garden centres

though?

judging by the Covid free crowds rammed into Palmers this afternoon.

 

Generally visited by older folk as well.

[Benguin]

20 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

Attending and worshiping in a church is a fundamental right, not a lifestyle choice. As Christian’s, we are taught to respect the laws of the land and as such, I think it’s fair to say most Christians have adapted to congregating online for the time being. 
 

Our respect for the law of the land doesn’t necessarily mean we agree or are not within our rights to criticise it. Whilst the general view of measures has been taken on amicably, it is now getting to a point where deep relationships are being broken, an intimate need to praise god in church is being suppressed and sharing the gospel with unbelievers (which we feel

called to do) is challenging. 
 

A Christian has submitted their life and devotion to God and tries not to live by the flesh but through the spirit (with lots of praise and worship) These restrictions then, are now becoming akin to preventing someone from doing not what they want to do but what they need to do. 
 

I therefore believe that this needs to be addressed by the leaders of churches who are charged with guarding their flock rather than by a government. 
 

Church goers are not remotely comparable to pub goers or the like. 

[z-layrex]

1 minute ago, Benguin said:

Attending and worshiping in a church is a fundamental right, not a lifestyle choice. As Christian’s, we are taught to respect the laws of the land and as such, I think it’s fair to say most Christians have adapted to congregating online for the time being. 
 

Our respect for the law of the land doesn’t necessarily mean we agree or are not within our rights to criticise it. Whilst the general view of measures has been taken on amicably, it is now getting to a point where deep relationships are being broken, an intimate need to praise god in church is being suppressed and sharing the gospel with unbelievers (which we feel

called to do) is challenging. 
 

A Christian has submitted their life and devotion to God and tries not to live by the flesh but through the spirit (with lots of praise and worship) These restrictions then, are now becoming akin to preventing someone from doing not what they want to do but what they need to do. 
 

I therefore believe that this needs to be addressed by the leaders of churches who are charged with guarding their flock rather than by a government. 
 

Church goers are not remotely comparable to pub goers or the like. 

Couldn't disagree more.

[theessexfox]

13 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Attending and worshiping in a church is a fundamental right, not a lifestyle choice. As Christian’s, we are taught to respect the laws of the land and as such, I think it’s fair to say most Christians have adapted to congregating online for the time being. 
 

Our respect for the law of the land doesn’t necessarily mean we agree or are not within our rights to criticise it. Whilst the general view of measures has been taken on amicably, it is now getting to a point where deep relationships are being broken, an intimate need to praise god in church is being suppressed and sharing the gospel with unbelievers (which we feel

called to do) is challenging. 
 

A Christian has submitted their life and devotion to God and tries not to live by the flesh but through the spirit (with lots of praise and worship) These restrictions then, are now becoming akin to preventing someone from doing not what they want to do but what they need to do. 
 

I therefore believe that this needs to be addressed by the leaders of churches who are charged with guarding their flock rather than by a government. 
 

Church goers are not remotely comparable to pub goers or the like. 

Going and seeing my partner and spending time with loved ones is a fundamental right. But there’s a pandemic on so some things have to be sacrificed.

[Benguin]

13 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

Couldn't disagree more.

Feel free to explain why someone being free to go for a drink is comparable to someone being free to do the most important thing in their life?

 

I believe you disagree because you are approaching it from what you personally believe rather than from an objective point of view.

 

A practising Christian puts church before everything else (family, career etc) even if you disagree with what’s important, you can’t disagree with ones own belief in that importance. 

[Innovindil]

16 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Attending and worshiping in a church is a fundamental right, not a lifestyle choice. As Christian’s, we are taught to respect the laws of the land and as such, I think it’s fair to say most Christians have adapted to congregating online for the time being. 
 

Our respect for the law of the land doesn’t necessarily mean we agree or are not within our rights to criticise it. Whilst the general view of measures has been taken on amicably, it is now getting to a point where deep relationships are being broken, an intimate need to praise god in church is being suppressed and sharing the gospel with unbelievers (which we feel

called to do) is challenging. 
 

A Christian has submitted their life and devotion to God and tries not to live by the flesh but through the spirit (with lots of praise and worship) These restrictions then, are now becoming akin to preventing someone from doing not what they want to do but what they need to do. 
 

I therefore believe that this needs to be addressed by the leaders of churches who are charged with guarding their flock rather than by a government. 
 

Church goers are not remotely comparable to pub goers or the like. 

Good job this isn't a couple centuries ago when the church had all the power then eh. Instead of the church dictating the rules of the land they're now changing the religion (like with gay marriages) to suit the people they serve. And in the end, the religion will be stronger for it.

 

We're all being asked to make sacrifices, whilst your place of worship might be important to you, it could be like what the footie or the pub is for someone else. Your faith doesn't make you special.

[SpacedX]

19 minutes ago, Benguin said:

and sharing the gospel with unbelievers (which we feel called to do) is challenging. 
 

You mean Proselytism.

 

If one good thing has come out of lockdown at least the JWs don't come knocking on my door on Saturday mornings anymore - although having become an acute problem, I must say the modifications proved quite successful...

[Benguin]

3 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Good job this isn't a couple centuries ago when the church had all the power then eh. Instead of the church dictating the rules of the land they're now changing the religion (like with gay marriages) to suit the people they serve. And in the end, the religion will be stronger for it.

 

We're all being asked to make sacrifices, whilst your place of worship might be important to you, it could be like what the footie or the pub is for someone else. Your faith doesn't make you special.

I wouldn’t call it changing the religion but rather reforming the way things are done to serve that particular society. Christianity has and always will be our lord and saviour, Jesus Christ. The church will never rule the land until his kingdom comes. I don’t think that’s a good thing and for the better hence why I pray for his kingdom to come everyday.

 

Of course we’re all being asked to make sacrifices and I think for the most part everyone has but just with education it’s time to strike a balance between those sacrifices and the risk of COVID-19.

 

 

 

[Benguin]

8 minutes ago, Line-X said:

You mean Proselytism.

 

If one good thing has come out of lockdown at least the JWs don't come knocking on my door on Saturday mornings anymore - although having become an acute problem, I must say the modifications proved quite successful...

No, the person who receives the gospel is free to reject or accept it. Our job is to share the gospel and leave it to their own volition, not force people to accept it. 

[SpacedX]

4 minutes ago, Benguin said:

No, the person who receives the gospel is free to reject or accept it. Our job is to share the gospel and leave it to their own volition, not force people to accept it. 

And under normal circumstances, how would you do this?

[Benguin]

Just now, Line-X said:

And under normal circumstances, how would you do this?

First and foremost, most churches welcome in numerous people who are curious each week. Besides that, through outreach programmes such as food banks, community events, courses such as alpha and good old fashioned street evangelism. 

[z-layrex]

23 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Feel free to explain why someone being free to go for a drink is comparable to someone being free to do the most important thing in their life?

 

I believe you disagree because you are approaching it from what you personally believe rather than from an objective point of view.

 

A practising Christian puts church before everything else (family, career etc) even if you disagree with what’s important, you can’t disagree with ones own belief in that importance. 

I don't think I can explain without possibly offending you, and I don't want to do that.

[Benguin]

3 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

I don't think I can explain without possibly offending you, and I don't want to do that.

I would never want to be the cause of censorship. 

[Alf Bentley]

16 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Feel free to explain why someone being free to go for a drink is comparable to someone being free to do the most important thing in their life?

 

I believe you disagree because you are approaching it from what you personally believe rather than from an objective point of view.

 

A practising Christian puts church before everything else (family, career etc) even if you disagree with what’s important, you can’t disagree with ones own belief in that importance. 

 

Meeting friends is the most important thing in some people's lives. It is often important to their mental wellbeing - and some people meet friends in pubs.

Following their football team is the most important thing in life for some people.

A committed communist, fascist, Tory or Labourite might put their "church" before everything else and feel it's important that they go out to meet fellow disciples and to evangelize their views to non-believers.

 

You have your priorities in life and they should be respected within the extent of what is reasonable......same as anyone else's priorities, no less but no more.

These are unusual times during which we all should accept temporary restrictions on our lives that are greater than usual - for the good of wider society.

 

It is laughable that you call on people to adopt "an objective point of view" and then stress the importance of "one's own belief" in what is important: i.e. your subjective beliefs!

You seem to view your subjective beliefs and priorities as somehow "objective". Some other people - of every religious or political belief and none - similarly view their own priorities as being of greater importance than the priorities of others.

 

Despite being a convinced atheist, I've previously argued that atheists should be more respectful of what they can learn from different religions: moral philosophy, social organisation, communal expression, simply thinking about life and its priorities.

I'd recommend De Botton's book "Religion for atheists" to anyone: https://www.alaindebotton.com/religion/

But I despair at the sort of superiority complex that lies behind your post above. It is unjustified pleading for a special, higher status for Christian priorities. Your priorities matter more to you, but are not objectively more important than the priorities of others.

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Leicester City FC is my religion, so surely I should be allowed to visit the KP Stadium every week?

[Babylon]

55 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Feel free to explain why someone being free to go for a drink is comparable to someone being free to do the most important thing in their life?

 

I believe you disagree because you are approaching it from what you personally believe rather than from an objective point of view.

 

A practising Christian puts church before everything else (family, career etc) even if you disagree with what’s important, you can’t disagree with ones own belief in that importance. 

Because having a beer with their friends is the most important thing in some peoples lives, or seeing their grandkids is, or going to the gym is, or going to the football is.

 

Nobody has the right to say to someone else that their “thing” is more important than anyone else’s.

 

I respect your right to go to church, but it’s no more important than anything else that we all rely on to get by in our lives. We are all making sacrifices.