Coronavirus Thread

[MonmoreStef]

A big thing now that wasn’t the case a few months ago is we all know plenty of people who have had this economy killing virus.  I know of at least twenty people personally who’ve tested positive. Forget the scientists, forget the media and forget the clown running the Country. I’m far happier forming my opinion  from first hand experience of cases I know are true. I’m sure there’s people on here who know of hundreds who’ve had it. I’m sure these people will also be making their decisions and forming their opinions on these first hand accounts. 

[leicsmac]

12 minutes ago, Harrydc said:

The condescending attitude of some people on here towards me is truly astonishing. Some of you are coming accross as extremely rude. It's as if you're all the Scientific advisors standing on that podium spouting scaremongering propaganda  (predicting thousands of deaths a day etc) 

It's never nice to feel condescended to. I hope I personally didn't come across that way in my reply.

 

Having said that, I would appreciate an answer to the point that I made, if you have the time and inclination:

 

23 hours ago, leicsmac said:

With respect, if a scientist was credible in the eyes of their peers and following the scientific method to provide credible results, they wouldn't have to rely only on a YouTube video to get the word out - they would also have peer reviewed, verified scientific literature backing their arguments.

 

I can only speak for myself here, but if such literature (rather than a "declaration" that can just be an assertion with no evidence) exists on "both sides" with equal frequency, I wouldn't mind reading it. Until then, however, the scientific method itself stipulates that some opinions are indeed more valuable than others on this matter. We've been here before with cigarettes and lung cancer and we're still here with climate change, after all.

 

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

1 hour ago, Line-X said:

"Paid government shill" and people that profess to be "awake". Ironic, since these are the same individuals that clearly slept through science classes. 

I know someone that not only denies the virus, also thinks dinosaurs didn't actually exist but does believe in ghosts and David Icke's theory that the royal family are lizards

[Nick]

2 minutes ago, Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo said:

I know someone that not only denies the virus, also thinks dinosaurs didn't actually exist but does believe in ghosts and David Icke's theory that the royal family are lizards

 

My wife is a couple of episodes into The Crown and I am so far also in the room and 'witnessing it' - though I find due to the pace it's good to have something else to do whilst it's on.. Now if in episode three we start seeing a bit of lizard mutation activity this may be a goer after all?

 

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Harrydc said:

The condescending attitude of some people on here towards me is truly astonishing. Some of you are coming accross as extremely rude. It's as if you're all the Scientific advisors standing on that podium spouting scaremongering propaganda  (predicting thousands of deaths a day etc) 

People are condescending to someone who was being condescending shocker.

 

I will add, whilst it seems an attack on you personally don’t take it that way. You might not be like them, it’s just unfortunate that your one post read like every post I come across from conspiracy theory Facebook experts who label any one who doesn’t agree with their half baked ideas as “sheeple” and that they just get their info from “spoonfed by MSM”.

 

Honestly, I’m sick of them. And I’m prone to overreact to them when I see it.

Edited 14 November 2020 by Babylon

[Buce]

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

[SpacedX]

6 minutes ago, Buce said:

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

God knows

[Dunge]

Presumably the argument would be that religious worship is as important (or more important) than schooling, working or even shopping for food. On the basis that it’s important for the soul, mortal and immortal. Or (in some parts of some religions) that whatever happens with the virus is god’s will.

[Buce]

10 minutes ago, Dunge said:

Presumably the argument would be that religious worship is as important (or more important) than schooling, working or even shopping for food. On the basis that it’s important for the soul, mortal and immortal. Or (in some parts of some religions) that whatever happens with the virus is god’s will.

 

What would be preventing them conducting worship at home? Don't they believe God is everywhere?

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Buce said:

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

There are plenty of places which are restricted where people are simply not observing the rules - suppose govt are pretty sure that places of worship will follow the law and they need as many as they can doing that ......

 

the economy and education are considered more important than religion .....otherwise business’ and schools would be shut ....

[fuchsntf]

16 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

I'd love my department to be like that! I have full labs and a department building made to cram people in, obviously that's gone really well so far.

 

Best thing about this is all the isolations were last minute calls as the ops manager wasn't aware my line manager forced a meeting upon people when she felt ill.

How do you Force a meeting...I mean if someone even had a cold,manager or not, surely the other 4 could say sorry,but a meeting at this time is Not a Good

idea...!!!  Probably your firm is so small with " know-all" managers wearinging invisible ' moron-stripes'

Or the Person didnt know of  or Show any symptons at the time.....

 

[Dunge]

14 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

What would be preventing them conducting worship at home? Don't they believe God is everywhere?

That, I couldn’t say. Only to say that you’re dealing with people who want places of worship up the priority list because they’re a major part of their lives.

[Nick]

1 hour ago, Buce said:

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

No Buce - I wouldn't.

 

Article 9

 

Well they can still practice religion, worship God/Jesus whatever as much as they want - but just not whilst congregated indoors in gatherings. That's not an infringement on their human right to worship. GTFO. I understand that Christianity is meant to have 'giving and sharing' values but I'm not sure that kind of 'spreading' the love is really  needed at the moment... 

[rachhere]

2 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

I am a regular church goer and I have absolutely no idea why so many people are protesting about this. They are already making exceptions in allowing people to go into places of worship for private prayer and also people to go in to run live streamed services (which in the case of my place involves bringing a fair few people together). 

[Buce]

2 minutes ago, rachhere said:

I am a regular church goer and I have absolutely no idea why so many people are protesting about this. They are already making exceptions in allowing people to go into places of worship for private prayer and also people to go in to run live streamed services (which in the case of my place involves bringing a fair few people together). 

 

Apologies, but it's not clear to me which side of the argument you are on.

 

My fault, I'm sure.

[rachhere]

4 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Apologies, but it's not clear to me which side of the argument you are on.

 

My fault, I'm sure.

Sorry - I am agreeing with you! 

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Buce said:

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

Because they will pray to not get it.... durrrrrrrr. 

[Corky]

Going to watch sport, going to play sport, going to the theatre, cinema, pub etc is just as important to plenty of people.

 

We all have to put up with the restrictions. Religious places should be no different.

[yorkie1999]

My church is the red lion, I need to pay homage to the amber nectar 

[dsr-burnley]

5 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Christian leaders launch legal challenge against ban on services in England and Wales

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/14/communal-worship-criminalised-under-lockdown-church-leaders-say

 

Would anyone care to postulate why places of worship should be exempt?

Same reason as people postulated that gyms and golf clubs should be exempt.  Because the evidence suggests that the risk of catching anything under their covid precautions is minimal.

[Nalis]

29 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

My church is the red lion, I need to pay homage to the amber nectar 

You cant go to the altar, pew service only.

[Parafox]

37 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

Same reason as people postulated that gyms and golf clubs should be exempt.  Because the evidence suggests that the risk of catching anything under their covid precautions is minimal.

By that argument, my local pub, which had every precaution available to make the customers and staff safe, could have remained open. I live in a small town with very few infections. They had to close along with every rural pub including many that were the only pub in the village. Ridiculous. 

[worthosoriginals]

3 hours ago, Babylon said:

Because they will pray to not get it.... durrrrrrrr. 

As effective as a lucky rabbits foot. If you believe superstitious nonsense

[Jattdogg]

I've got a sore throat, runny nose, slight  headache.  Hope this is just a typical common cold of sorts. I had 3 hours of sleep over the course of the night spread over the 8 hours i was trying to sleep. Just napped for 1.5 hours.

 

I dont even go anywhere  other than grocery shopping. I WFH so either my wife and kids passed me germs (none are sick though) or pornhub did it.

[Stevosevic]

24 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

I've got a sore throat, runny nose, slight  headache.  Hope this is just a typical common cold of sorts. I had 3 hours of sleep over the course of the night spread over the 8 hours i was trying to sleep. Just napped for 1.5 hours.

 

I dont even go anywhere  other than grocery shopping. I WFH so either my wife and kids passed me germs (none are sick though) or pornhub did it.

Pretty sure a runny nose isn't a covid symptom so it sounds like a regular cold to me.