peach0000 Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 I reckon we'll finish a bit higher and wolves and Leeds a lot lower but apart from that it seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 Everton going for it. Again! 🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 (edited) Hard season to predict, still think there will be some real surprise! Make predictions with 6 weeks of a transfer window still open is a little silly...... Edited 2 September 2020 by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Hard season to predict, still think there will be some real surprise! Make predictions with 6 weeks of a transfer window still open is a little silly...... it will be one of the most predictable seasons in years in terms of the make up of the top 5, where they finish in what order is another thing. spurs and wolves will fight it out quite a bit behind for europa league slots with everton i think. the lads will finish around mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 4 minutes ago, twister said: it will be one of the most predictable seasons in years in terms of the make up of the top 5, where they finish in what order is another thing. spurs and wolves will fight it out quite a bit behind for europa league slots with everton i think. the lads will finish around mid table. Not convinced, short turnaround, limited per season. Lots of clubs and players having extended seasons, resulting in injuries, fatigue etc. I think it's going to be strange one, unpredictable one for me, suppose time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHawk Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 I wonder if mourinho will implode at spurs. He's famously always spent money, and spurs signings look bargain basement at best. Add into that he tends to get worse the longer he's in jobs and it does make you wonder. They will still be far too reliant on kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 If we’re comfortably in the top half I’ll be happy. Anything more than 7th is a great bonus. No reason why we can’t push for it, but think it’s unrealistic with current form to expect us to be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 2 hours ago, MattFox said: Owner has pumped £350 million in over the last 4 years How FFP hasn't buried them I've no idea. Even the relaxing of it recently, they were blasting it way before and ought to be picked up on it. Atrocious transfer dealings by and large as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingleicester Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 1 hour ago, twister said: ajax selling van beek is the last flicker of light on ajax winning another champions league this was a bit of a golden generation their first good one capable of winning big ears in 25 years, and they have all gone within a year, expected of course driven by finances. But its sad to think a club as great as ajax will never win the big one again. modern football eh. Never say never buddy, little old Leicester we’re in the quarterfinals not so long back, Atlanta last year, it’s football anything can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 1 hour ago, davieG said: FourFourTwo's 20/21 Predicted League. Reason's given here - https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/predicted-premier-league-table-2020-2021-liverpool-man-city-man-utd-chelsea-arsenal-spurs probably the most boring prediction it could've come out with. predictions like these are usually some way off too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 6 hours ago, Stadt said: £120m more than us, they have a rich owner that invests his own money and have high revenues anyway so the expenditure itself isn’t that scandalous. The money they’ve spent on the likes of Tosun, Bolasie, Vlahovic and even Sigurdsson is though They don't actually pull in that much more than us per year in a normal season and given we have won the league and then got to the CL QF the following season, not to mention our net spend is much lower than theirs it does seem on the face of it that they are taking some big risks and surprised they haven't been pulled up on it. Rich owners cannot simply pump more dough in to transfers and wages, only infrastructure and the academy. Maybe the could get creative with sponsorship but as of yet their revenue is not much more than ours. 5 hours ago, HankMarvin said: Net spend of about £150m last 3 seasons £180m for the last 3 years and over £230m in the last 5 years, in the top 5 biggest in the league I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 1 hour ago, TrentFox said: Everton going for it. Again! 🤣🤣 I am pissed - I would have liked us to sign Doucoure - only £25Mil - he is foreceful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 I rated him, too. They usually buy crap, but think they’ve done well this close-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 I'd be happy with top 10 and knockouts in EL. I've said before that if we were to be a team that does an on-off in Europe over alternate seasons, then I think that's pretty damn successful. I've been lucky, in my lifetime, to have seen cup wins and the big one. But we can't lose perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 4 minutes ago, TrentFox said: I rated him, too. They usually buy crap, but think they’ve done well this close-season. That just leaves us to sign welbeck then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 1 hour ago, peach0000 said: I reckon we'll finish a bit higher and wolves and Leeds a lot lower but apart from that it seems about right. I wouldn't bet against Wolves they have a wily Manager who knows his way around the game. I think they will be close to us either way. somewhere between 5th and 9th I just hope we get off to a good start given the fixtures but then I'm worried about the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: They don't actually pull in that much more than us per year in a normal season and given we have won the league and then got to the CL QF the following season, not to mention our net spend is much lower than theirs it does seem on the face of it that they are taking some big risks and surprised they haven't been pulled up on it. Rich owners cannot simply pump more dough in to transfers and wages, only infrastructure and the academy. Maybe the could get creative with sponsorship but as of yet their revenue is not much more than ours. £180m for the last 3 years and over £230m in the last 5 years, in the top 5 biggest in the league I think. Pretty sure Usmanov is very creative with the sponsorship for them unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 21 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: How FFP hasn't buried them I've no idea. Even the relaxing of it recently, they were blasting it way before and ought to be picked up on it. Atrocious transfer dealings by and large as well. £120 + million for selling Lukaku and Stones plus some sponsorship deals with Usmsnov has kept them above water. They are an absolute shambles though and don’t think anyone would be surprised if they did a Leeds at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 5 minutes ago, Fox in the North said: Pretty sure Usmanov is very creative with the sponsorship for them unfortunately. He is and that makes it even more painful that king power have only been paying us £4m/season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: I'd be happy with top 10 and knockouts in EL. I've said before that if we were to be a team that does an on-off in Europe over alternate seasons, then I think that's pretty damn successful. Our fans said that 12 months ago, yet they still shat themselves silly when we didn't finish 6th. Edited 2 September 2020 by The Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 6 minutes ago, st albans fox said: He is and that makes it even more painful that king power have only been paying us £4m/season Just sponsor the s**t out of our lovely new training ground. When the stadium expansion happens (one day?!) sponsor every nut and bolt of the entire complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 18 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: I wouldn't bet against Wolves they have a wily Manager who knows his way around the game. I think they will be close to us either way. somewhere between 5th and 9th I just hope we get off to a good start given the fixtures but then I'm worried about the injuries. With wolves I just don't think they are that good tbh. They have a system that is very anti football which has taken them this far but I honestly think they will be found out massively next season. They are my outside bet for relegation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 34 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: They don't actually pull in that much more than us per year in a normal season and given we have won the league and then got to the CL QF the following season, not to mention our net spend is much lower than theirs it does seem on the face of it that they are taking some big risks and surprised they haven't been pulled up on it. Rich owners cannot simply pump more dough in to transfers and wages, only infrastructure and the academy. Maybe the could get creative with sponsorship but as of yet their revenue is not much more than ours. £180m for the last 3 years and over £230m in the last 5 years, in the top 5 biggest in the league I think. Owners can invest £40m of their own money over a (not sure if it's rolling) 3 year period. Couldn't find the most recent comparison but for the 17/18 season their income was £30m higher than ours or 18.8% which is obviously significant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 These are Everton's bottom line numbers. Sponsorship is already baked in, so it's clearly not plugging the gaps. Maybe someone versed in FFP can explain why they won't now be charged? Something to do with the decision to roll 19/20 and 20/21 up into a single reporting period due to COVID? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 2 September 2020 Share Posted 2 September 2020 2 minutes ago, KingsX said: These are Everton's bottom line numbers. Sponsorship is already baked in, so it's clearly not plugging the gaps. Maybe someone versed in FFP can explain why they won't now be charged? Something to do with the decision to roll 19/20 and 20/21 up into a single reporting period due to COVID? It's over a three year period is it not? So they should be in big trouble unless they perform miracle with this years accounting. I've never seen the premier league particularly punish ffp but if they get into European competition Uefa would presumably throw the book at them like they did with Milan or Galatasaray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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