Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 hours ago, The Bear said: Not yet. If when our best players leave they'll go for 2-3 times what we paid for them. Doherty was just a Mendes Carousel move by the looks of it. He wasn't worth much more than £20m any way. He's an average player who's poor defensively but decent going forwards in our specific system. He'll be a liability at Spurs, mark my words. We often do loan with options to buy as it gives us a chance to assess him for a season and also delays his transfer fee for a year for FFP purposes, which allows us to make other purchases in the same window. Oh and I wouldn't entirely trust that Portugese Twitter account about Telles. He's made a lot of guesses in the last few days. Fabio Silva came off and Vinagre does seem to be leaving. But he also said we were getting Esteves and Leite "in a few hours" from them days ago. I can't see us getting Telles, I think he'll go to Man Utd. What I mean is, why have Porto agreed to that? Most clubs would like a loan with an option to buy as it mitigates risk but this smacks of Mendes making the decisions and Porto being powerless to it. They need money and yet they are loaning out one of their best young players? Can smell it from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 (edited) Porto have to raise €100m because they failed FFP. They've asked Mendes to help them do that. Not surprising they are trying to sell their youngsters first before the first team. The loan part is irrelevant. That will be our choice, given that we will give them the most money at the end of it. I assume Porto can put it on their books as a sale, or the player is off their books. Edited 8 September 2020 by The Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 hours ago, The Bear said: Porto have to raise €100m because they failed FFP. They've asked Mendes to help them do that. Not surprising they are trying to sell their youngsters first before the first team. The loan part is irrelevant. That will be our choice, given that we will give them the most money at the end of it. I assume Porto can put it on their books as a sale, or the player is off their books. Interesting that cos they've also signed some Brazilian 20 year old striker who they reckon is like shit off a shovel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 hours ago, The Bear said: Porto have to raise €100m because they failed FFP. They've asked Mendes to help them do that. Not surprising they are trying to sell their youngsters first before the first team. The loan part is irrelevant. That will be our choice, given that we will give them the most money at the end of it. I assume Porto can put it on their books as a sale, or the player is off their books. How does loaning you a player for a year before you might give them £18m help though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Have PL implemented any rules about players getting Covid-19? Mainly in response to that Belgian player getting covid and potentially affecting 3 of our players, not to mention the rest of the players for other clubs too (but they're insignificant on this particular site!) What if a player gets covid during the season and not on international duty? What's the knock on effect for the following games? Does it have to be a certain number of players before anything is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 8 minutes ago, StanSP said: Have PL implemented any rules about players getting Covid-19? Mainly in response to that Belgian player getting covid and potentially affecting 3 of our players, not to mention the rest of the players for other clubs too (but they're insignificant on this particular site!) What if a player gets covid during the season and not on international duty? What's the knock on effect for the following games? Does it have to be a certain number of players before anything is done? I imagine they’ll continue with the testing as normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 I much preferred it when Wolves were bums under random morons like Stale Solbakken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 What actually is the arrangement between Wolves, Mendes and Porto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Clubs in danger of breaching the Premier League’s financial regulations have been given a stay of execution after it secretly relaxed its profit and sustainability rules due to the coronavirus pandemic. Top-flight clubs’ finances will now be assessed over an average of last season and next season together rather than just the 2019-20 campaign. The clubs will also be allowed to write off any losses or extra spending caused by the Covid-19 crisis, such as reduced gate receipts or lower television income. Everton are potentially the biggest beneficiaries of the rule change, which was agreed by the top-flight clubs at their annual meeting last month as it has bought them more time. The rules state that clubs’ maximum permitted losses are £105 million over a rolling three-year period, but the Covid pandemic could cost clubs tens of millions of pounds in lost TV revenue and matchday income. The Premier League announced yesterday it has terminated its biggest single overseas TV deal, a £526 million three-year contract with China’s PPTV, just a year into the deal after an unpaid £160 million fee. Everton recorded losses of £13 million in 2017-18 and £111 million in 2018-19, putting them in severe danger of being sanctioned if they did not make a profit last season. Those fears have now been reduced by the Premier League’s rule change, which also explains how Everton have been able to afford moves for Real Madrid’s Colombian forward James Rodriguez, Abdoulaye Doucouré from Watford, and Napoli midfielder Allan. Chelsea, who have spent heavily on transfers this summer, also reported significant losses in 2018/19, of £96million, but that followed a profit of £69m the previous season. The Premier League’s board has the power to impose a spending budget on a club that breaches the rules and to impose a transfer ban. It can also refer cases to a regulatory commission which can impose a range of sanctions from fines up to a points deduction. The clubs’ rule change, which was not formally announced by the Premier League at the time it was made last month, mirrors Uefa’s changes to its financial fair play rules. Uefa announced in June it would allow owners to put more money into their clubs to cover increased losses caused by football’s shutdown. It also said that FFP would be measured over two seasons instead of one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 21 minutes ago, StanSP said: Have PL implemented any rules about players getting Covid-19? Mainly in response to that Belgian player getting covid and potentially affecting 3 of our players, not to mention the rest of the players for other clubs too (but they're insignificant on this particular site!) What if a player gets covid during the season and not on international duty? What's the knock on effect for the following games? Does it have to be a certain number of players before anything is done? Well it seems that they'll have to lump it as Man City look to start their fist game against Wolves without Mahrez & Lapoorte Quote On Monday, Manchester City revealed that Aymeric Laporte and Riyad Mahrez returned positive tests and will now self-isolate in accordance with government guidelines. Neither is displaying symptoms of the virus but they may miss City's first game of the new season is away at Wolves, live on Monday Night Football, on September 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 7 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: What actually is the arrangement between Wolves, Mendes and Porto? Basically, it's a circle-jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 The Mirror's PL Shirt rankings, We're 18th, not that it means much. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-202021-kit-rankings-22646403 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 35 minutes ago, StanSP said: Have PL implemented any rules about players getting Covid-19? Mainly in response to that Belgian player getting covid and potentially affecting 3 of our players, not to mention the rest of the players for other clubs too (but they're insignificant on this particular site!) What if a player gets covid during the season and not on international duty? What's the knock on effect for the following games? Does it have to be a certain number of players before anything is done? Games will still go ahead regardless of positive cases, which means that they can't enforce groups of full squads of players from having to self isolate, unless every single one of them tested positive. I imagine it will just mean they test the players possibly effected every day or every other day and as long as they they keep coming back negative then they keep training and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Can't copy the whole thing but Squires with a Guardian cartoon before the season begins https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/sep/08/david-squires-on-things-to-look-forward-to-2020-21-premier-league-season 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 52 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Games will still go ahead regardless of positive cases, which means that they can't enforce groups of full squads of players from having to self isolate, unless every single one of them tested positive. I imagine it will just mean they test the players possibly effected every day or every other day and as long as they they keep coming back negative then they keep training and playing. i think clubs will request three tests per week becomes the standard. i wonder if any have invested in one of those mobile testing machines to be used daily - i don't believe they are that expensive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Farley Posted 8 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 8 September 2020 My prediction attached. This is if we sign a couple more first team players and my blue tinted glasses. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 11 minutes ago, Bob Farley said: My prediction attached. This is if we sign a couple more first team players and my blue tinted glasses. You missed a 1 from the front of Leeds' position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Us 5th Sheff Utd 17th Leeds 9th Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 13 hours ago, Tuna said: Josh King to Villa according to John Percy. Looks like Villa are getting Ollie Watkins from Brentford for £28m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 (edited) Surely there has to be a limit on players testing postive though? If 10 first teamers are out for 2 weeks, we could potentially have the same 14 blokes playing 4 or 5 games in 14 days? It can't be just be if you test positive you sit out and everyone else carries on as normal, 6 or 7 players out means the game will surely be postponed. Edited 8 September 2020 by Leicester_Loyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 1 minute ago, pmcla26 said: That's why you invest in your academy. I know it's not really a fair solution, but if games need to be completed with u23s then so be it. Seems mental to me, really not looking forward to this season at all, it's just ridiculous. I can't wait for the first VAR decision when we play WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Manures new third kit would cause FT to explode into total meltdown had we chosen a similar design. Fvcking awful is paying it a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Wolves making good additions but for me there is huge pressure on them to seriously challenge top 4 sooner rather than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 hours ago, Jobyfox said: Looks like Villa are getting Ollie Watkins from Brentford for £28m Just seen that. Up to £33m?! In these times for a championship striker who's 25 in a few months and only got to 10 goals in 2 seasons before the last. I know he's meant to be good but that is just a ridiculous fee if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Farley Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: Manures new third kit would cause FT to explode into total meltdown had we chosen a similar design. Fvcking awful is paying it a compliment. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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