Sol thewall Bamba Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 First draw of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pub breath Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, murphy said: You make a good point in your first paragraph, but as for your second, we finished 5th last year whilst Leeds were in the Championship, we have five years on Leeds in the PL and have won the title during that time. So are we better than Leeds? Traditionally perhaps not, but nowadays, we should be. We're ahead of you on the timeline. I don't think that's an 'entitled' view. I wouldn't actually dispute much of that and certainly agree that Leicester should be better than Leeds right now. I just can't say with any degree of certainty that they are. The other poster did and has basically just done exactly what the Leeds fan did and got called entitled for it. What the two clubs did last season isn't relevant, it's about the two teams right now. If the Leeds fan was "entitled" saying that then so was that poster. Edited 30 October 2020 by Pub breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 16 minutes ago, Pub breath said: So Leeds having such an injury list at CB that they have been forced to play an academy kid there and in the last game, a RB, is not relevant? Odd. Clearly, I had no idea about that but it doesn't take away from my initial point that you seem to take aggrevience with. They leak goals. Alot. You dont agree? Fine. It means nothing to me. Move on as your not going to change my mind so you're wasting your time arguing your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pub breath Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 1 minute ago, Foxy_Bear said: Clearly, I had no idea about that but it doesn't take away from my initial point that you seem to take aggrevience with. They leak goals. Alot. You dont agree? Fine. It means nothing to me. Move on as your not going to change my mind so you're wasting your time arguing your point. You did change your mind and even admitted that you were wrong to say "A LOT". At least you're sure of yourself if nothing else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 If we can keep a clean sheet against Arsenal away from home and limited them a lot I can see us putting up a decent defence together here. Evans will play I would have thought. I do like to watch Leeds but if they leave the space in behind Barnes under and Vardy will get chances. Looking forward to it but with our injuries it's just about getting as many points on the board as poss. Crazy to think we have more points than this time last season. What is crazy that we then have Braga 3 days after this and then Wolves 3 days after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post murphy Posted 30 October 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 30 October 2020 16 minutes ago, Pub breath said: I wouldn't actually dispute much of that and certainly agree that Leicester should be better than Leeds right now. I just can't say with any degree of certainty that they are. The other poster did and has basically just done exactly what the Leeds fan did and got called entitled for it. What the two clubs did last season isn't relevant, it's about the two teams right now. If the Leeds fan was "entitled" saying that then so was that poster. I think it s relevant because it is about development. Leaving Leeds and Leicester out if it, I think that a newly promoted team will usually have at it's core a number of Championship players. For most, year one is just about staying in the division and improving the quality year on year. A team with a five year head start should have better players, however, recently Wolves and Sheff Utd have bucked that trend and made waves in their first year. I have been impressed with Leeds, they do look a good side and will probably do something similar. If I can offer you a piece of unsolicited advice, I would urge you as a visiting supporter not to get sucked into squabbles. I'm not saying that yo have but I've seen it happen before. You seem to me a decent poster and I always welcome the views of oppo fans. We have some good regular posters from different clubs and I think that most of the home the posters here are decent too but you will likely come across some more obnoxious posts. When it's your club, it can be difficult not to bite but if you see something you don't like it's better to walk on by and engage with the more reasonable posts. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 11 hours ago, Wymsey said: Same team as against Athens? Personally would start with Barnes, Mendy and Praet. The same back 4 as last night will invite Bamford to score another hattrick. Collectively far to slow for Leeds. Please God I hope Evans is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCCFox96 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Think there will be goals in this one. Leeds have lost Phillips injury recently who is a massive player for them. They've also had injuries to Liam Cooper and Diego Llorente at CB which I think boosts our attacking outlook. There will be more space to hit them on the transition. If Vardy and Barnes are on song I think we've got a great chance. The injuries to our defence isn't ideal - Castagne, Ricardo and Soyuncu are key players for us and if Evans is out that's our entire first choice back 4 sat watching the game. I think a back 5 makes sense regardless of whether Evans is fit as it gives us a solid base to soak up the Leeds attack and spring forward quickly and stretch the pitch with wing backs. The biggest dilemma for me is whether you start with Praet or Maddison in the front 3, but I think it will JM. Schmeichel Fofana Evans/Morgan Fuchs Albrighton Mendy Tielemans Justin Maddison Vardy Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danny Clender Posted 30 October 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 30 October 2020 This is the 'Kelley's Heroes' Cup. The battle between Brendan Rodgers and Marcelo Bielsa. I think Brendan will have done a lot of homework for this game. He will have read ‘The Quality of Madness: A Life of Marcelo Bielsa, ‘Coaching Build Up Play Against High Pressing Teams’ and every other book in the world that has ever mentioned Marcelo Bielsa. He will have watched every single game Bielsa has ever managed, chatted to former assistants and players and has been practicing sitting on an upside cooler box whilst in training. All this to produce a 3 part, 10 hour Powerpoint Presentation to be presented to the team. A very vague rumour has it that, Demarai Gray has not been selected so far this season because he’s been undercover up in Leeds for the past 6 weeks spying on their training ground. Was he the right choice to be selected for such an important covert mission?, I’m not sure. I imagine Rodgers will go with a deep to shallow block with overlapping CDM’s. Schmeichel will be a full back striker, he’ll be constantly sprinting up for attacking play and sprinting back to cover the posts, Ward will be in Goal. He’ll play a false number 4, 21 and 25. Barnes will man mark Bielsa so to block the instructions he gives from his eye brows. Slimani will goal hang, literally off the goal posts for the whole match, offsides will slow the game down to a standstill. And this this is where the masterclass happens, Demarai Gray has gone so deep undercover at Leeds he will actually be playing for them and he will score 4 own goals in the last 5 minutes of the game. Below is a copy of Bielsa's plans for the game. Sadly, many Bothans died to bring us this information. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pub breath Posted 30 October 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 30 October 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, murphy said: I think it s relevant because it is about development. Leaving Leeds and Leicester out if it, I think that a newly promoted team will usually have at it's core a number of Championship players. For most, year one is just about staying in the division and improving the quality year on year. A team with a five year head start should have better players, however, recently Wolves and Sheff Utd have bucked that trend and made waves in their first year. I have been impressed with Leeds, they do look a good side and will probably do something similar. If I can offer you a piece of unsolicited advice, I would urge you as a visiting supporter not to get sucked into squabbles. I'm not saying that yo have but I've seen it happen before. You seem to me a decent poster and I always welcome the views of oppo fans. We have some good regular posters from different clubs and I think that most of the home the posters here are decent too but you will likely come across some more obnoxious posts. When it's your club, it can be difficult not to bite but if you see something you don't like it's better to walk on by and engage with the more reasonable posts. Been dropping in and out of this forum for years and it's the only opposition forum I do. At the uncomfortable risk of appearing an awful sycophant, it's because it's comfortably the best opposition forum out there. It's generally much more considered and less one-eyed than other fans forums and just seem to be a lot less bitter and blinkered members than others. I'll still call the odd bit of BS out if I see it though, which should be fair game as long as it's not designed to causes a ruck. Anyway, as for Leeds, I have no clue. Early signs are promising and I always said surviving relegation would be enough. Going toe to toe against Liverpool and City has made me start to wonder whether I was being unambitious... Edited 30 October 2020 by Pub breath 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 3 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Been dropping in and out of this forum for years and it's the only opposition forum I do. At the uncomfortable risk of appearing an awful sycophant, it's because it's comfortably the best opposition forum out there. It's generally much more considered and less one-eyed than other fans forums and just seem to be a lot less bitter and blinkered members than others. I'll still call the odd bit of BS out if I see it though, which should be fair game as long as it's not designed to causes a ruck. Anyway, as for Leeds, I have no clue. Early signs are promising and I always said surviving relegation would be enough. Going toe to toe against Liverpool and City has made me start to wonder whether I was being unambitious... For the record, I like your side. Easily the best of the promoted clubs, and you play a style which makes opponents uncomfortable. I think an upper mid-table finish could easily be achievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Let's be fair, we have been parking the bus. It's obviously been worthwhile and given our injuries, I think it'll be 5 at the back again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pub breath Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Just now, Deeg67 said: For the record, I like your side. Easily the best of the promoted clubs, and you play a style which makes opponents uncomfortable. I think an upper mid-table finish could easily be achievable. That's the bit I am enjoying. Knowing that nobody is going to have it easy against us makes me smile after 16 years away. Nothing could have been worse than waiting all this time and then getting ruined every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 15 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: Let's be fair, we have been parking the bus. It's obviously been worthwhile and given our injuries, I think it'll be 5 at the back again. With the state of the injuries and the ridiculous schedule I am happy to do whatever it takes to accumulate points the sexy football can wait till after Xmas when we hopefully have almost all our players back if we had parked the bus against West Ham we would probably not have lost. Brendan will only play defensively if he feels he needs to but after the Aston Villa performance, he may have realised we simply dont have the personnel and fitness levels to play the way he wants to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Thing is, which of our training grounds has Bielsa being spying at? Seagrave, when open, might prove difficult to stop prying eyes due to its vast expanse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, mozartfox said: The same back 4 as last night will invite Bamford to score another hattrick. Collectively far to slow for Leeds. Please God I hope Evans is fit. oh come on... The disrespect to our defenders is back I see! Watkins had just scored a hat trick against Liverpool when we played Villa we didn't give him a kick! its like you think these players cant adapt. Edited 30 October 2020 by goose2010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samlcfc1 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Is this sold out ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 See no reason to ditch the Man City/Arsenal approach. Yes it shows Leeds an awful lot of respect, but I feel like they've earned it with their start given the teams they've played. Yes they're ripe to concede a few, but we've had our 5 goals in a game for the season fixture and I think you can really only implement the 'score more than them' plan if you're a Liverpool or Man City. One more win here and we can get back to being a bit more expansive, back to back wins is the key for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Rodgers morph into Simeone will continue. Just missing a bit more bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 37 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Been dropping in and out of this forum for years and it's the only opposition forum I do. At the uncomfortable risk of appearing an awful sycophant, it's because it's comfortably the best opposition forum out there. It's generally much more considered and less one-eyed than other fans forums and just seem to be a lot less bitter and blinkered members than others. I'll still call the odd bit of BS out if I see it though, which should be fair game as long as it's not designed to causes a ruck. Anyway, as for Leeds, I have no clue. Early signs are promising and I always said surviving relegation would be enough. Going toe to toe against Liverpool and City has made me start to wonder whether I was being unambitious... I've been very surprised by Leeds but in a good way and like the way they attack the opposition without care for reputation. From experience, over the few years we've been back, unless very lucky with injuries, it can be squad depth that starts to take it's toll. Despite having some unbelievable bad luck with injuries to several key players this season thus far, whilst it's no means the strongest squad, we've just about had enough depth to get through and remain in contention for a reasonably good finish. Bielsa's style of play is ambitious high energy stuff and the worry could be fatigue without a good back up squad to rotate throughout a long hard season. I think it was perhaps the teams downfall when they just missed out on promotion last time. If both teams had all players fit then I'd have to say that at this point in time, we do on paper have the better players by quite a distance BUT ... so did Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal etc etc when we won the Premiership! Man City team value about 300m then, ours about 23m. It's about having a good team not individuals, fight, togetherness and a clever manager. Leeds currently appear to have all of the latter so the season looks bright for them imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 16 minutes ago, AjcW said: See no reason to ditch the Man City/Arsenal approach. Yes it shows Leeds an awful lot of respect, but I feel like they've earned it with their start given the teams they've played. Yes they're ripe to concede a few, but we've had our 5 goals in a game for the season fixture and I think you can really only implement the 'score more than them' plan if you're a Liverpool or Man City. One more win here and we can get back to being a bit more expansive, back to back wins is the key for me! I agree because the tactics for each game should be based both on the quality of the opposition and also the players you have fit at your disposal. It's nice to entertain but it's mainly about winning. There'll be time for a bit more entertainment perhaps when we get our first team players all back and play against appropriate opposition. It's about keeping up with the pack at the moment for me first and foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Whatever villa did, do the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpendenfox Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 Two teams whose strength is in attack would suggest a goal fest. 0-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 30 October 2020 Share Posted 30 October 2020 People are rightly concerned but Leeds could play right into our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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