MGLCFC Posted 29 May 2021 Posted 29 May 2021 3 minutes ago, TrentFox said: Reckon he’ll struggle in the PL, but good luck to the boy. He'll probably struggle because Brentford are likely to struggle. It's likely he'll stay now, but had Brentford not gone up and he'd have been sold to a mid table team, it would have been interesting to see his impact.
Popular Post murphy Posted 29 May 2021 Popular Post Posted 29 May 2021 Brentford have been promoted? I've not been following. Glad to see them coming up. An unfashionable team that has been Knocking on the door for a while by finding hidden gems. Sounds familiar. Good luck to them. 5
Scotch Posted 29 May 2021 Posted 29 May 2021 23 minutes ago, murphy said: Brentford have been promoted? I've not been following. Glad to see them coming up. An unfashionable team that has been Knocking on the door for a while by finding hidden gems. Sounds familiar. Good luck to them. Won the final 2-0. 1
FOXSE Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 Convince them that Toney is a risk as no top flight experience, and they need a player that has? Straight swap with the experienced Perez? 😄 1
Number 6 Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 He seems very confident, and plays with a good aggression. Will be interesting to see how he does. See no reason he can't hit the numbers Watkins has though.
pazzerfox Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 I have watached Brentford and Toni for the last few matches. He undeniably knows where the net is but he doesn't seem technically good enough for us. Good luck to him and Brentford though, great effort.
StanSP Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 Has there ever actually been any credible links with us and him?
sacreblueits442 Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, pazzerfox said: I have watached Brentford and Toni for the last few matches. He undeniably knows where the net is but he doesn't seem technically good enough for us. Good luck to him and Brentford though, great effort. ...I have posted before just watching him on YouTube!!! What comes across is that he looks messy, scrambled goals, not clean strikes. One overriding thing is his ability to be in the tight place at the right time, very hard to coach that, and I can't see him looking aesthetically better, but the goals will still come. Edited 30 May 2021 by sacreblueits442
Lambert09 Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...I have posted before just watching him on YouTube!!! What comes across is that he looks messy, scrambled goals, not clean strikes. One overriding thing is his ability to be in the tight place at the right time, very hard to coach that, and I can't see him looking aesthetically better, but the goals will still come. To be honest I thought exactly the same about Ollie Watkins and he’s massively stepped up
Sly Posted 30 May 2021 Author Posted 30 May 2021 8 hours ago, pazzerfox said: I have watached Brentford and Toni for the last few matches. He undeniably knows where the net is but he doesn't seem technically good enough for us. Good luck to him and Brentford though, great effort. I’ve watch him a few times now. Generally looked decent, can finish well in and around the box. First touch is like a baby elephant at times though. Reminds me a bit of Nacho.
An Sionnach Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 2 hours ago, Lambert09 said: To be honest I thought exactly the same about Ollie Watkins and he’s massively stepped up Watkins moves like a Ferrari, Toney more like a Morris Marina but in the end its who sticks it in the net more often. 15 goals in 38 matches is par for a striker in the PL . If Toney gets that many, Brentford should stay up.
Strokes Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 10 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Watkins moves like a Ferrari, Toney more like a Morris Marina but in the end its who sticks it in the net more often. 15 goals in 38 matches is par for a striker in the PL . If Toney gets that many, Brentford should stay up. I’d say par is anything in double figures. 15 goals and you’ve got a very good striker. 2
An Sionnach Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 6 minutes ago, Strokes said: I’d say par is anything in double figures. 15 goals and you’ve got a very good striker. Probably better put as a goal every 220 minutes.
Guest Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 14 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: 15 goals in 38 matches is par for a striker in the PL Over the last five seasons the number of strikers to reach 15 goals is 9, 5, 4, 7 and 4 so I think that may need revising downwards
An Sionnach Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 46 minutes ago, Guest said: Over the last five seasons the number of strikers to reach 15 goals is 9, 5, 4, 7 and 4 so I think that may need revising downwards Those statistics suggest defences are getting better or more likely strikers are getting worse. Both Vardy and Iheanacho bettered the one every 220 minutes of course. When you think Fowler, Owen, Nistelroy , Shearer and co would have looked on that as a pretty average season.
Bryn Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Those statistics suggest defences are getting better or more likely strikers are getting worse. Both Vardy and Iheanacho bettered the one every 220 minutes of course. When you think Fowler, Owen, Nistelroy , Shearer and co would have looked on that as a pretty average season. Teams play differently don't they, 20-30 years ago the gameplan was to get the ball to the striker and he did the goalscoring. Nowadays the striker is much more so the focal point of the attack with other attackers pivoting round them, so the goals are spread out. Back in the early days of the Prem Kane would probably have scored a disgusting amount of goals but wouldn't have got so many assists. Edited 30 May 2021 by Bryn
An Sionnach Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 2 minutes ago, Bryn said: Teams play differently don't they, 20-30 years ago the gameplan was to get the ball to the striker and he did the goalscoring. Nowadays the striker is much more so the focal point of the attack with other attackers pivoting round them, so the girls are spread out. Back in the early days of the Prem Kane would probably have scored a disgusting amount of goals but wouldn't have got so many assists. That is true to an extent, though Kane, Salah, Aguero and Vardy have all consistently beaten par so it can be done.One of the reasons Arsenal have underperformed is Auba hasn't earned his enormous salary this season.
murphy Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 1 hour ago, Guest said: Over the last five seasons the number of strikers to reach 15 goals is 9, 5, 4, 7 and 4 so I think that may need revising downwards And we had two of them last season! 1
Guest Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 2 minutes ago, Tuna said: I'm surprised Newcastle didn't insert a buy back option. Pretty remarkable that they let him and Adam Armstrong go in the same window
Deeg67 Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 (edited) Brentford, like Norwich, play a pretty expansive style that isn't going to work for a small club trying to scrabble 38 points and stay up. Norwich refused to adapt last time around - it'll be interesting to see what the two of them do next season. Edited 30 May 2021 by Deeg67
TJB-fox Posted 30 May 2021 Posted 30 May 2021 38 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Brentford, like Norwich, play a pretty expansive style that isn't going to work for a small club trying to scrabble 38 points and stay up. Norwich refused to adapt last time around - it'll be interesting to see what the of them do next season. They were like that last season but they seem to have added a slightly more steely underbelly this year. I think they’ve got all the tools and set up to do well in the prem. very very very well run club
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