Popular Post Clarkey123 Posted 1 July 2021 Popular Post Posted 1 July 2021 Everyone so quick to turn their backs on Cags thinking the grass is greener. Been a cracking player the last couple of years, filled in massive shoes got in the team of the year and always plays for the badge. One slight dip in form after an injury and everyone’s ready to ship off and get the next ‘prospect’ in. Shame on all of you. 17 1
The_77 Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 12 hours ago, lcfc_forever said: I don't think there is anything in this, except trying to get some leverage in the contract negotiations. Man City have a very settled centre-half pairing, he wouldn't be guaranteed first team football. Nobody goes to Pep’s Man City for first team football, ask Riyad. 1
st albans fox Posted 2 July 2021 Posted 2 July 2021 Given that there is no mention of cags on blue moons transfer forum, any link between cags and Man City must be bollux
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 2 July 2021 Popular Post Posted 2 July 2021 8 hours ago, Clarkey123 said: Everyone so quick to turn their backs on Cags thinking the grass is greener. Been a cracking player the last couple of years, filled in massive shoes got in the team of the year and always plays for the badge. One slight dip in form after an injury and everyone’s ready to ship off and get the next ‘prospect’ in. Shame on all of you. Oh man, foxestalk loves a dramatic "shame on you for disrespecting X player!" in response to nobody at all disrespecting X player. Guaranteed rep. We get it, you're the better Leicester fan, you value all the players more than we do. Etc etc. Have some up votes. End of the day, almost all football clubs are revolving doors, especially at our level. Nobody is rejoicing in the idea of losing Cags, nobody at all has said he's shit or they'd drive him to the airport themselves. But the reality of football is a centre back is going to be easier for us to replace than other positions, especially if a club of Man City's stature and resources are genuinely committed to signing him and doubling his wages. We need revenue to keep improving the squad and some of that probably needs to come from sales, especially if you want a RW of the kind of calibre we do. Nobody's turning their backs on the guy, he's become an instant cult hero, but most of us are fairly pragmatic and realistic about our position in a sport where there are bigger fish. Would you rather we be a club that can never sell anyone because our players careers are taking the opposite trajectory? It's a good thing that ours are always in demand. 5 1
Bezzanator89 Posted 2 July 2021 Posted 2 July 2021 We have to accept that he may leave if the big boys come knocking, it happens every summer. But we always have someone lined up just incase, most likely James Tarkowski. Didn't have a great season with injury and has struggled at times without Evans alongside him. It would be a shame but I don't believe his departure would be detrimental to the club, as we always plan ahead for such an eventuality, and 9.9 times out of 10, it is an improvement to the squad.
Devonfox1884 Posted 2 July 2021 Posted 2 July 2021 Looking at it logically, he’s probably the most expendable ‘high value’ member of the squad. I really hope, just for once, we keep the core of our squad together and add to it this summer though. In little Wes, Evans and Cags we have 3 very, very good options at CB, and if we can add another we will have brilliant depth in the position.
Sampson Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 15:42, gurru991 said: I would be devastated to see Cags leave !! I know last season wasn't his best but I still think he is one hell of a player. It only wasn't his best because he was out with a lengthy injury and then a bad bout of covid. Our defence looked so much worse whenever he was out the side and we conceded a lot more when he was out too. 1
MGLCFC Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 Really 4 v Spurs 4 v Newcastle 3 v West Ham 3 v Leeds These were our heavy defeats this year and Soyuncu played in them all. 12 minutes ago, Sampson said: It only wasn't his best because he was out with a lengthy injury and then a bad bout of covid. Our defence looked so much worse whenever he was out the side and we conceded a lot more when he was out too.
weller54 Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 16 minutes ago, Sampson said: It only wasn't his best because he was out with a lengthy injury and then a bad bout of covid. Our defence looked so much worse whenever he was out the side and we conceded a lot more when he was out too. Had a bad bout of Covid?.. When was that then?
Verumex Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 14 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: Really 4 v Spurs 4 v Newcastle 3 v West Ham 3 v Leeds These were our heavy defeats this year and Soyuncu played in them all. I'm curious, was Evans playing in any of these?
scinnell Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 27 minutes ago, weller54 said: Had a bad bout of Covid?.. When was that then? He got covid while on the final international break
Sampson Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: Really 4 v Spurs 4 v Newcastle 3 v West Ham 3 v Leeds These were our heavy defeats this year and Soyuncu played in them all. He came on at HT in the Leeds match when we were already 1-0 down. He also didn't play in: 0-3 vs Liverpool 2-3 vs West Ham 3-3 vs Braga Plus pretty limp defeats in which we conceded 2 against the likes of Fulham and Everton I think you're letting the 2 results against Newcastle and Spurs when he was recovering from covid cloud your judgement, because they're recent. He was poor in both those games no doubt, but no worse than Evans or Fofana. Genuinely flummoxed that people want to exchange Soyuncu for an obviously worse defender in Ake, because he did ok in a relegation battling Bournemouth side that used to concede 70 league goals a season and who has looked miles out his depth at ManCity. Edited 3 July 2021 by Sampson 1
MGLCFC Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Verumex said: I'm curious, was Evans playing in any of these? It's irrelevant to the statement that was posted, which was we were weaker when Soyuncu didn't play, which the stats suggest we were weaker. Edited 3 July 2021 by MGLCFC
MGLCFC Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 2 hours ago, Sampson said: He came on at HT in the Leeds match when we were already 1-0 down. He also didn't play in: 0-3 vs Liverpool 2-3 vs West Ham 3-3 vs Braga Plus pretty limp defeats in which we conceded 2 against the likes of Fulham and Everton I think you're letting the 2 results against Newcastle and Spurs when he was recovering from covid cloud your judgement, because they're recent. He was poor in both those games no doubt, but no worse than Evans or Fofana. Genuinely flummoxed that people want to exchange Soyuncu for an obviously worse defender in Ake, because he did ok in a relegation battling Bournemouth side that used to concede 70 league goals a season and who has looked miles out his depth at ManCity. As we were winning at home against Leeds it can't have been 1 - 0 to Leeds at half time. Secondly, I've never mentioned wanting to exchange him for any other defender - just stating that defensively we haven't been that secure when he has played this year, that goes for Evans to a certain extent and Fofana. However, if we were offered say £60m for him, there are equally good defenders out there at half the price.
Foxxed Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 I was wondering who we'd sell this window... I hope it's not Soyuncu. I can't think of anyone else we'd happily sell for lots of cash and replace reasonably.
volpeazzurro Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 15:42, gurru991 said: I would be devastated to see Cags leave !! I know last season wasn't his best but I still think he is one hell of a player. And it probably wasn't 'his best' because he was being played out of position on the extreme left of a three. He did a job there when asked for the betterment of the team to the best of his ability. Arguably if we'd have stuck Fofana or Evans out there we'd be saying the same about them. If another team bought him and played him in a four man defence they'd have themselves a top top centre half and we'd be the losers for it.
Foxxed Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 Thing is, with Evans getting on, we'll need to get in a new centre half soon anyhow. And then also one to replace Cags if he goes.
fox_up_north Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 I always think a player is allowed a bad season. It happens. There's so many factors in it. If he underperforms again or doesn't match his previous output, then we start thinking whether it's a long term trend. 1
Popular Post gurru991 Posted 3 July 2021 Popular Post Posted 3 July 2021 On 02/07/2021 at 02:25, Bezzanator89 said: We have to accept that he may leave if the big boys come knocking, it happens every summer. But we always have someone lined up just incase, most likely James Tarkowski. Selling Cags & buying Tarkowski is like selling a sports car & buying a van. 12
Merchant_Banker Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 38 minutes ago, Foxxed said: Thing is, with Evans getting on, we'll need to get in a new centre half soon anyhow. And then also one to replace Cags if he goes. We were already short one CB, as Rodgers appears not to trust Amartey as cover, so that would leave us needing at least 3 CBs!
John rayner Posted 3 July 2021 Posted 3 July 2021 1 hour ago, Merchant_Banker said: We were already short one CB, as Rodgers appears not to trust Amartey as cover, so that would leave us needing at least 3 CBs! Unless cags had said he wants to leave and I dont think he has he will be starting the new season with the foxes , 1 1
Clarkey123 Posted 4 July 2021 Posted 4 July 2021 18 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: And it probably wasn't 'his best' because he was being played out of position on the extreme left of a three. He did a job there when asked for the betterment of the team to the best of his ability. Arguably if we'd have stuck Fofana or Evans out there we'd be saying the same about them. If another team bought him and played him in a four man defence they'd have themselves a top top centre half and we'd be the losers for it. Playing 3 centre halves really dosen’t suit him, been saying this for months. Soon as we get Justin and Barnes back I hope we revert back to our setup for the first half of the season rather than trying to accommodate all 3 of fofana, soyuncu and Evans in the same team. 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 July 2021 Posted 4 July 2021 20 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: And it probably wasn't 'his best' because he was being played out of position on the extreme left of a three. He did a job there when asked for the betterment of the team to the best of his ability. Arguably if we'd have stuck Fofana or Evans out there we'd be saying the same about them. If another team bought him and played him in a four man defence they'd have themselves a top top centre half and we'd be the losers for it. ...he seemed just as indecisive on the extreme right as well!!! I think the three is his problem, not the position he is being asked to play within it. Very reluctant to come too far away from the middle of the defence, he either does not trust that their will be cover should he attempt to engage the attacker in the channel vacated by the Wing Back or unsure of himself in that scenario. Stopping the ball coming across is the priority, you need to close down the threat, should no one cover the space you gave vacated well that person has failed to read the game and that aspect needs to be addressed for the player and for the team. Soyuncu looks a quality player in a back four, he needs to take that confidence into playing in a back three, he needs to step out of his comfort zone, but we do not excel, as a team, playing with a back three, we look more open and vulnerable. 2
Foxxed Posted 4 July 2021 Posted 4 July 2021 20 hours ago, John rayner said: Unless cags had said he wants to leave and I dont think he has he will be starting the new season with the foxes , I hope so. But we’ve sold one player to fund our expenditure these past six or so years. It makes me wonder who it will be.
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