If Rodgers Goes...

[coolhandfox]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I was using the example of club changing manager and it working, nothing to do with manager v manager (what they achieved) or manager v Rodgers.

 

Fvck me.

Don't think you are my type. 

[Incognito]

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He did extremely well at Lille where he brought through a number of young superstars like Hazard and won Ligue 1. He was excellent from the off at Roma who had been chaos for a while and like with almost every successfull manager in the modern era there, just fell short of winning Serie A as there's always one of Inter or Juve who seem to pip them. Lyon he also started well and had a very good run in the Champions League with them.

 

 

Think under Garcia, Roma were the first team to have ever won all of their first 10 Serie A games. I remember one game where they absolutely destroyed Napoli.

 

A very good candidate should Rodgers decide to move on.

[jayfox26]

36 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He would be seriously linked if we are needing a new manager. Whether he'd leave Belgium with a World Cup so close but he fits who we'd go for.

 

 

Yeh I do think he will wait until after the world Cup. Just get a merry go round in place for the summer. Rodgers to United, Ole to Belgium, Martinez to Leicester  🤣

[Le Renard]

I don't think there is a messiah around the corner, and Potter is not the one and I don't have a clue who could replace Rodgers!  I think there is a lack of good candidates who would come to us, I would have said a couple of years back Nuno would be a good fit, but his star has wained. 

[sacreblueits442]

49 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Zidane is a strange one. He's won Liga x 2 and the CL x 3 but rarely mentioned as a top manager, and I have no idea why.

...I  think people have the impression that he inherits teams as opposed to build them!!!

 His coaching and what he has done to get his licence are perhaps impressive but there is a feeling, for me, that he has the tendency to be in the right place.

[sacreblueits442]

Just now, pmcla26 said:

Sounds a bit like the "greatest manager ever" at Man City....

.... sacrilege...  !!! 

[moore_94]

20 minutes ago, Langston said:

 

I wouldn't fancy Potter here, but I'm not sure it's quite as black and white as that. Brighton were in what looked like terminal decline under Hughton towards the end of his tenure and we're playing some really rough stuff. Potter has overseen a big change in playing style (for the better) and they've never really looked close to going down. It's almost universally agreed that if they had a finisher the past season or so they'd be a good handful of places higher.

 

I think their current position is a bit lofty but it wouldn't surprise me if they start to properly reap the benefits of the change this season and snag top half. They're certainly improving.

Be interesting to see if they can start picking wins up again as they have dropped off a bit
 

Last win in all comps was Swansea on 22/09, last league win was us on 19/09

 

6 draws and 1 loss since those 2 games, it has included Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal, but also included Newcastle, Norwich and rivals Palace

 

Now going to be missing Sanchez for 3 games and we saw how crap Steele was at passing out against us in the Cup

[volpeazzurro]

58 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Shame he couldn't find another Mahrez. 

Firstly, in fairness, there's not many of those about I suspect, hence Man City bought ours! Secondly, if there is a ready made even we would probably know him but wouldn't have the money! Berradi maybe a reasonable shout, I don't know personally, but you could reasonably bet our lot have and looked at the potential cost

[BenTheFox]

25 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Oh, the Potter myth!

 

Yeah, he's done so much better the Hughton 

 

Potter
19/20 15th (41 points)
20/21 16th (41 points) 

 

Hughton 
17/18 15th (40 points)
18/19 17th (36 points)

I think you need consider the context here. Yes, their points tally has not improved that significantly when you compare the two season that they both had in the premier league. However, Brighton ended staying up more comfortably in the two seasons under Potter than they did in the final season under Hughton and they were playing a much more appealing brand of football which is likely to attract a certain type of player and will be able to command bigger fees because the top sides also play that way. When you watched Brighton last season you could that in a lot of games they were creating chances and not putting them away. The way they have started this season also suggests that they are going to comfortably surpass the points tallies from the previous seasons. Yes, I agree that people are going over the top when speaking about him but he definitely has improved them. 

 

I can understand how some people would think that he would succeed here. We have more firepower than Brighton, our team performances have just generally been poor.

[Fox92]

11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Don't think you are my type. 

Okay then. Well I don't mind a debate on here but any small criticism of Rodgers you just jump on it. I love the man as much as the next City fan but there are questions to be asked of him.

 

I'll still be open for debate when he leaves and we're still in the Premier League. I'm guessing you'll be lumping on relegation then, because it's end of the line for us once he goes of course.

[4everfox]

25 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Yeh I do think he will wait until after the world Cup. Just get a merry go round in place for the summer. Rodgers to United, Ole to Italy, Mancini to Leicester  🤣

I'd prefer it like this if we can't just keep Rodgers 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Oh, the Potter myth!

 

Yeah, he's done so much better the Hughton 

 

Potter
19/20 15th (41 points)
20/21 16th (41 points) 

 

Hughton 
17/18 15th (40 points)
18/19 17th (36 points)

I’d be interested to know how much lolly has been spent at Brighton in those last two seasons too. 
 

A friend of mine pointed out at the weekend that surely Brighton have to sell some of their players soon? White’s covered them for this season but there’s a fair spend there 

 

EDIT: Just had a look

21/22 Profit £7m

20/21 Loss £7m

19/20 Loss £60m

18/19 Loss £66m

17/18 Loss £51m 

 

Loss of £177m !!

 

Edited 9 November 2021 by Cardiff_Fox

[BenTheFox]

9 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I’d be interested to know how much lolly has been spent at Brighton in those last two seasons too. 
 

A friend of mine pointed out at the weekend that surely Brighton have to sell some of their players soon? White’s covered them for this season but there’s a fair spend there 

 

EDIT: Just had a look

21/22 Profit £7m

20/21 Loss £7m

19/20 Loss £60m

18/19 Loss £66m

17/18 Loss £51m 

 

Loss of £177m !!

 

Most of that came when Hughton was their manager. Not surprising really, I get the impressions that he tends to favour older, more experienced players with little resale value (they were still relying on 36year-old Glenn Murray for goals not that long ago!). Obviously Potter was going to be given a decent amount of money initially when he was being intrusted with completely changing the playing style. As I've mentioned, they are probably more likely to be able to command bigger fees for their better players under Potter because their playing style is more similar to the top teams. 

[Corky]

8 hours ago, Koke said:

 

With the salary he is on and the players at his disposal, I don't believe the club will just accept mediocre 12th place finish. Wolves, for example, moved on Nuno for boring mid table finish. Our wage bill and talent pool is higher than Wolves. I think the club has bigger ambition than being 12th. The Ranieri era was a different time. 

This is where I think the club are at. We've probably got a top six squad so if he finishes below there they'll ask why (unless he wins a cup and gets into Europe that way). They aren't going to make a huge decision now.

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  think people have the impression that he inherits teams as opposed to build them!!!

 His coaching and what he has done to get his licence are perhaps impressive but there is a feeling, for me, that he has the tendency to be in the right place.

Having a prime CR7 helps as well.

[fuchsntf]

There is only one choice if Rodgers

Goes off into the sunset...

That would be...Trigger.

I might have a stab at lucky-luke..

 

What with all these FT- cowboy pundits,

They would all feel at home on the range..

I mean ffs ,half you lot thinking up these names, who are not an hair in Sam whiskey, being near Rodgers.

 

Rodgers shouldn't be rustled or rawhided out,especially from some blind mavericks bucking this forum has 

Cow barons,who think they can ramrod their toxic BS all over the place.

 

What a useless immature topic because people can't keep to their own,

And love delving into the sesspits of clickbait...

Newcastle supporter after years of abuse earned & deserve the right to get

On their not so high horses...

Not one Leicester supporter has the right to blunt their spurs and make demands over Rodgers position..

 

He's not free of critic, or demanding fans various perspectives.

.but wanting him away...ffs.

Opinions..Fk em..!!

 

.The fan base has the problem!!...over 50yrs you ain't had the balls to refuse backing the clubs attrocious food services and events...So shows how  the thought process in many people's melt down minds have wiltered..

They rather fight for the horses piss around the concourse,than give our manager true support, when it wobbles a bit.

 

 

I love my medis...they allow me a free clear mind allowing me to let loose

Once in awhile...

 

[ARM1968]

Clear mind?  Well fuch me and let me make a camp fire an rustle us up a bubbling bowl of beans with extra magic mushrooms. Then we can sit and watch the rainbow stars under the light of a silvery moon, listening to the lullaby of the herd until sun up. Yee hah partner. 

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

I think you need consider the context here. Yes, their points tally has not improved that significantly when you compare the two season that they both had in the premier league. However, Brighton ended staying up more comfortably in the two seasons under Potter than they did in the final season under Hughton and they were playing a much more appealing brand of football which is likely to attract a certain type of player and will be able to command bigger fees because the top sides also play that way.

True they do play some nice football.

 

But he does have some terrible runs of form 2 wins out of 18 (start 20/21). 2 wins in 18 (End 19/20) and he could just be starting another no win in 6. 

2 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

When you watched Brighton last season you could that in a lot of games they were creating chances and not putting them away. The way they have started this season also suggests that they are going to comfortably surpass the points tallies from the previous seasons. Yes, I agree that people are going over the top when speaking about him but he definitely has improved them. 

Not convinced, think they could be this years Southampton and drop like a stone.

2 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

I can understand how some people would think that he would succeed here. We have more firepower than Brighton, our team performances have just generally been poor.

Maybe would like to see him get a top 10 finish first with Brighton. 

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Okay then. Well I don't mind a debate on here but any small criticism of Rodgers you just jump on it. I love the man as much as the next City fan but there are questions to be asked of him.

Of course, he needs to be questioned. Just think people saying he needs to be sacked are jumping to gun.

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I'll still be open for debate when he leaves and we're still in the Premier League. I'm guessing you'll be lumping on relegation then, because it's end of the line for us once he goes of course.

Depending on who we get, 

 

O'Neill had his faults but kept us in and around the top 10 for five seasons. It took 18 months for Taylor to destroy us. Who was a very well respected coach at the time!

Debate is good. That is why we post on here.

 

 

[Guest StevieLynex]

2 hours ago, Le Renard said:

I don't think there is a messiah around the corner, and Potter is not the one and I don't have a clue who could replace Rodgers!  I think there is a lack of good candidates who would come to us, I would have said a couple of years back Nuno would be a good fit, but his star has wained. 

Yes there is, it's Brian

[volpeazzurro]

3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  think people have the impression that he inherits teams as opposed to build them!!!

 His coaching and what he has done to get his licence are perhaps impressive but there is a feeling, for me, that he has the tendency to be in the right place.

A bit like Rodgers perhaps?

[ronnup]

Lots of noise about this now. Concerning. 

[Ozwin]

Someone at work has a reliable source that told him Rodgers has taken his kids out of their school. No idea if it's been mentioned already or not but thought I'd stir the pot a bit anyway!

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, Ozwin said:

Someone at work has a reliable source that told him Rodgers has taken his kids out of their school. No idea if it's been mentioned already or not but thought I'd stir the pot a bit anyway!

😂

 

My boss told me he’d heard the same about 3 weeks before we beat United

 

Moved to a Manchester school apparently 

 

The same boss also told me he’d heard Youri had agreed two new deals before the end of last season, and was waiting for the conclusion before signing the relevant one 😂

 

 

 

[Buce]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Don't think you are my type. 

 

He's got a pulse; what more do you want?

Edited 9 November 2021 by Buce