If Rodgers Goes...

[Milo]

2 minutes ago, Guest454545 said:

That's one incident. That doesn't make him "high maintenance". Can you point to numerous others? 

Are you seriously wanting Andre Fking Boas as our next manager???

[messerschmitt]

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Still keep coming back to Rudi Garcia as the only one who ticks all the boxes.

 

I quite like Stuttgart's manager who was assistant to Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim, but it that could be a huge punt. His style of play though is exactly what we'd welcome and he heavily utilises academy players and recruiting young players. 

 

Garcia does all of that though and has done well with decent teams that aren't the best in their leagues but can challenge. He's our man if Rodgers goes. I've ruled out the Sporting manager as he likes playing 3 at the back which is horrid here and the other 2 I considered were Conceicao at Porto who I like but he's nuts and doesn't really have much time for younger players, prefers experience.

 

Gattuso, Villas-Boas and Lampard are all either high profile and largely unproven or high maincbtenance and come with baggage. 

I think 3 at the back may be the way to go. I just think we play it all wrong and don't have the right players. The 3 CB's all play as CB's too close and central and we haven't a single proper wing back in the squad. They should be more like wingers than defenders with the left CB playing more like a traditional LB. A kind of kind of CB/LB high-bred, same on the right. Against Arsenal Luke Thomas was left on his own with no left wing to cover him. The left CB should have been over that side and the back 3 shift over to cover, same if the attacks down the right, but our 3 CB's all stay too central getting in each others way. We look very much like a back 4 trying to play with 5 players.

[Guest454545]

21 minutes ago, Milo said:

Are you seriously wanting Andre Fking Boas as our next manager???

I don't really mind who your next manager is. I was just curious as to why he would be in the same category as Lampard and Gattuso, when he has a better managerial record than both

[volpeazzurro]

26 minutes ago, Milo said:

Are you seriously wanting Andre Fking Boas as our next manager???

It's a strange suggestion for me too. Albeit early in his career  he was a complete dunderhead at Chelsea and everyone was laughing at him when he got the sack. Had a good year at Spurs in fairness but then that turned sour quickly. He's not done bad since but Shanghai is an odd one. Nothing to right home about, not for me. 

Edited 16 November 2021 by volpeazzurro

[Milo]

22 minutes ago, Guest454545 said:

I don't really mind who your next manager is. I was just curious as to why he would be in the same category as Lampard and Gattuso, when he has a better managerial record than both

Ah. 

So just poking with a stick for a reaction, then?
 

🤷‍♂️ 

[Ric Flair]

6 minutes ago, Milo said:

Ah. 

So just poking with a stick for a reaction, then?
 

🤷‍♂️

Argues with anything, doesn't even support us either. Got nowt better to do than come on here, bizarre 😂

[Fox92]

Sorry, just caught up with the thread, did I see people genuinely backing Lampard as a manager?  

[Mike Oxlong]

7 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Sorry, just caught up with the thread, did I see people genuinely backing Lampard as a manager?  

I’d prefer Frank 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spencer 

[Incognito]

Lampard is very intelligent, I fully expect him to learn from his errors at Chelsea. I just don't want him at Leicester attempting to prove himself.

 

In the wider general sense, we should know better than to write any managers off. Ranieri delivered us a title after being sacked by Greece for losing to the Faroe Islands after all (I know NP largely put it in place beforehand but he still had to pick the XI every week).

[Guest454545]

47 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Argues with anything, doesn't even support us either. Got nowt better to do than come on here, bizarre 😂

Fair point. 

 

I'll take my leave then, with this:

 

Rodgers is the best you're getting. Once he goes, your challenge for the top half will be done. 

 

Hail hail.

[Ric Flair]

18 minutes ago, Guest454545 said:

Fair point. 

 

I'll take my leave then, with this:

 

Rodgers is the best you're getting. Once he goes, your challenge for the top half will be done. 

 

Hail hail.

Maybe so, but I trust our owners who've delivered us more than anyone could dream in the last 10 years.

 

Hopefully Rodgers turns it around here anyway but it's inevitable he leaves some way or another in the next year or so.

[frany104]

19 minutes ago, Guest454545 said:

Fair point. 

 

I'll take my leave then, with this:

 

Rodgers is the best you're getting. Once he goes, your challenge for the top half will be done. 

 

Hail hail.

Bore off. Get of this forum. You don’t even support Leicester and all your interested in is having a pop. Have you got nothing better to do? 

[kiwiturk]

Once again, Christophe Galtier...

We need a super coach who can manage, motivate and flourish a modest team to compete and win a title. 

He's done this with Lille against PSG.

We should go after him at all cost. ( I still think he'll cost less than what we pay for BR)

 

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, kiwiturk said:

Once again, Christophe Galtier...

We need a super coach who can manage, motivate and flourish a modest team to compete and win a title. 

He's done this with Lille against PSG.

We should go after him at all cost. ( I still think he'll cost less than what we pay for BR)

 

Not a bad shout. 

Got Nice up to 3rd at the moment in Ligue 1.

 

[kiwiturk]

14 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Not a bad shout. 

Got Nice up to 3rd at the moment in Ligue 1.

 

Yep. Once again, if you look at the Nice's squad, filled with the no names or superstars.

He is a master tactician and super motivator.

Let's skip the generic names or the non-archievers for ones.

Edited 16 November 2021 by kiwiturk

[Ric Flair]

17 minutes ago, kiwiturk said:

Once again, Christophe Galtier...

We need a super coach who can manage, motivate and flourish a modest team to compete and win a title. 

He's done this with Lille against PSG.

We should go after him at all cost. ( I still think he'll cost less than what we pay for BR)

 

Can't see him leaving Nice yet, only been there since the summer and has a great set up there. Class manager though.

[kiwiturk]

13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Can't see him leaving Nice yet, only been there since the summer and has a great set up there. Class manager though.

Money talks and of course some reputable agents in between as well.

The reality is and always will be, we will not able to assemble a team filled with expensive superstars like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool but if we'll able to bring talented football manager/agent duo like Galtier- Campos then we may have a real shot for the top 4.

What Galtier and Campos done at Lille last season was remarkable.

They brought no names, semi retired and talented young players into the team and created well oiled machine. 

 

Edited 16 November 2021 by kiwiturk

[Finnegan]

13 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I've ruled out the Sporting manager as he likes playing 3 at the back which is horrid here

 

At the risk of being a traitor to Team Back 4 and having @Mark ban me, a back 3 isn't inherently a bad thing.

 

You wouldn't turn down Gasperini, would you? Nobody would call his teams boring or dull. 

 

352/343 is incompatible with Rodgers, it's not incompatible with our squad. To be honest, I think a lot of us understand why he keeps leaning towards it because our squad actually has a lot of the right ingredients.

 

It just doesn't work and never has worked with a patient, possession based, "tika taka" inspired system that requires maximum width. 

[Dahnsouff]

7 minutes ago, kiwiturk said:

Once again, Christophe Galtier...

We need a super coach who can manage, motivate and flourish a modest team to compete and win a title. 

He's done this with Lille against PSG.

We should go after him at all cost. ( I still think he'll cost less than what we pay for BR)

 

https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/tactical-analysis-christophe-galtiers-lille/

 

Seems alright 

[filbertway]

13 hours ago, iancognito said:

With a vastly different style. They're now closer to that Mourinho V.1 style of nick a goal or two early doors then shut up shop for 60 mins. It's a winning style but in a lot of ways anti-football. I doubt very many managers - Rodgers included - would have turned Chelsea's fortunes around so quick, especially with Werner's woeful finishing.  Lampard isn't a "top top" manager but I'd argue we'll strugle to attract that bracket anyway as they'd all hold out for a top 4 side or be coveting the top tier UCL jobs. What he is, is a recently retired ex-player with a lot of kudos around the game who has proven that he works well with young players.

 

He doesn't figure in a lot of fan's thinking but given our fans overall record in choosing managers over the years we're probably not the best people to be passing judgement. Little had so much spit aimed at him they had to install a poly tunnel, O'Neill would have been sacked after two months, Adams worked minor miracles yet still took flak, Pearson took us to two titles and two play offs and numerous broken records yet is often mentioned by some as if he destroyed the soul of the club. Meanwhile, managers we wanted include Taylor, Sven and Holloway.

I'd think we could probably cut some slack to a guy who won every honour in the domestic game.

Oh for me on paper I like Lampard as he ticks a lot of boxes for me in that he likes to play youth and he tries to actually play somewhat attractive football. He's not exactly excelled in either of the 2 jobs he's had so far though, so I don't even know why he would come into our reckoning. He's walked into a couple of jobs and performed probably below expecations given the players at his disposal. Why would we want that?

 

I'd personally prefer Chrissy Wilder over Lampard, Wilder has exceeded expecations in every job he's taken. If he somehow gets a tune out of that Boro team and has them promoted in the next 18 months then I don't know what else he'll have to do to earn a crack at a club with half decent resources.

 

[kiwiturk]

5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/tactical-analysis-christophe-galtiers-lille/

 

Seems alright 

Thanks for sharing this mate.

Great stuff.

[Langston]

Villas-Boas comes across like his dad owns this company and don't you forget it.

 

A weirdo I'd hate to have here. Whack Gattuso in that bracket too.

[Finnegan]

I'd have Gattuso purely for the pressers alone. The journos over here that had the audacity to call Nige a bully wouldn't know what hit them. 

[messerschmitt]

39 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/tactical-analysis-christophe-galtiers-lille/

 

Seems alright 

Thanks for that. I like to read and try to understand, same with the stuff @StriderHiryuposts and hopefully learn and know what to look out for in games when those around me are moaning to "just kick it forward" lol.

[Fox92]

38 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Oh for me on paper I like Lampard as he ticks a lot of boxes for me in that he likes to play youth and he tries to actually play somewhat attractive football. He's not exactly excelled in either of the 2 jobs he's had so far though, so I don't even know why he would come into our reckoning. He's walked into a couple of jobs and performed probably below expecations given the players at his disposal. Why would we want that?

 

I'd personally prefer Chrissy Wilder over Lampard, Wilder has exceeded expecations in every job he's taken. If he somehow gets a tune out of that Boro team and has them promoted in the next 18 months then I don't know what else he'll have to do to earn a crack at a club with half decent resources.

 

Wilder has done really well wherever he's been but some of his signings in the PL were questionable. Brewster £23.5m, McBurnie £20m, Mousset £10m, the two full backs from Derby were £10m each I think.

 

I have no doubt he will get Middlesbrough up but I'll be interested to see how he does in the PL again because that second season at Sheffield United, in the PL, was one of the worse teams I've ever seen.