Jamie Vardy

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, Tielemans63 said:

That's a fair point and you're probably right in that regard but on the other hand, we don't have anyone else in the squad who would get those goals right now (even against the weaker teams) and so therefore he's still a crucial player imho.

 

Hopefully Patson can fill the void  but I'm concerned he's a bit too nice. If I was Brendan I'd send him to live with Jamie and Rebekah for a month, then the transition to full-on bastard will be complete.

 that'd make for a great bit of TV. "Making a bastard: Staying with the Vardy's"

 

Because of his past success with us, I find that people are incredibly lenient on Vards when he goes through periods of games where he contributes very little on the ball. Whereas if Daka or Kel has a game like that, people will jump in quite quick and say "see, I told you he couldn't replace Vards". 

 

For me, we should be starting Patson most games this season, knowing that he has a season to work with Vards in training and we still have Vards who can come on for 30 minutes fresh at the end of a game. It'd do Daka's confidence the world of good if he knew that he'd have a chance to prove himself over a run of 15-20 starts. 

 

This would act as a way of us managing the transition. Rather than stifling Daka's development over a 2/3 year period and then panicking when Vards decides to call it a day. 

 

 

[taupe]

2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

For me, we should be starting Patson most games this season, knowing that he has a season to work with Vards in training and we still have Vards who can come on for 30 minutes fresh at the end of a game. It'd do Daka's confidence the world of good if he knew that he'd have a chance to prove himself over a run of 15-20 starts. 

I'd agree with you on that. 

 

I see Vardy's contributions diminishing (understandably) and we tend to live in hope of what he can do. I'd rather we phase a transition than have Vards pull up lame and then turn to Patson. 

[dooflip]

Jamie Vardy is the first name on the team sheet if you are scrapping for survival. His legs don’t even come in to it, IMO he’d be the first name in the team sheet in a survival scrap if he was on crutches, as long as he’s on the pitch. And a survival scrap is what this season will be, everybody knows it, especially the owners who I suspect are looking to sell up. Vardy has to stay, because we still have 39 points to get.

[Number 6]

Probably will be a bit more rotation between him and Patson this season - I still haven't seen Patson's movement being anywhere close to as good as Vardy's but he will get up-to-speed. In the meantime we have one of the best strikers in the league - absolutely no complaints from me. He might draw a high wage but you just cannot replace his output cheaply.

[filbertway]

Just now, Number 6 said:

Probably will be a bit more rotation between him and Patson this season - I still haven't seen Patson's movement being anywhere close to as good as Vardy's but he will get up-to-speed. In the meantime we have one of the best strikers in the league - absolutely no complaints from me. He might draw a high wage but you just cannot replace his output cheaply.

I find Patson makes really good runs, but if the midfield don't spot them, then he's out of the game. Whereas Vards seems to have developed an ability to compensate for midfielders with terrible vision and he seems to be able to make the same run 3 times until somebody notices it

 

Hopefully working with Vards for another year and more game time, he'll be able to hone that.

[Red Squirrel]

Looking at all the comments on here you wonder whether anyone watches the matches

 

No one is giving Vardy any frigging service!! Saturday was a prime example, he was always on the move making little runs off defenders, when the ball inevitably went sideways yet again. It must be terribly frustrating yet his head never drops. 

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

He did, it's probably worth noting that 10 of those 15 came against the 3 relegated teams.

 

Not to say they're worth less goals, but maybe an indication that he's not the same bloke that'd drag us to victory in the more challenging games we face.

That had come on to my radar the amount of goals he scored vs poorer teams last season and it will be interesting to see what his output is this season. What needs to be factored in though is of the games he did miss last season, a good chunk of them were against better sides. He played in all 6 games vs the relegated teams and only 19 other games against the rest of the PL where his record was a modest 5 from 19 but played Chelsea twice, Liverpool once, Utd once, Man City once, Arsenal once.

 

He absolutely deserves at least 1 more year here, even if his output tails off and then it's decided next season is his last season. I hope he transitions a bit more in to being an impact sub in some games and Daka or another system is used as there are games where from the start you can tell he's isolated out of the game and rhe opposition benefit from that but had he not started but then come on for the final part of the game that the opposition have more and a difficulty in adapting to that.

[dannythefox]

2 hours ago, Big Dave said:

Can he continue playing well now though.  He is starting to show signs of his body catching up with him, starting to slow down.

He’s still quick and adapted his game so he’s not burning energy all the time. Quality player and still loads to offer.

[Guest Col city fan]

Does anyone think if Daka doesn’t get his chance soon, he’ll want out?

He doesn’t come across like that but surely must be wondering why he’s here. Apart from the money of course. 
Just a thought…

[Big Dave]

35 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

He’s still quick and adapted his game so he’s not burning energy all the time. Quality player and still loads to offer.

Agree, however he wasn’t in the game against Brentford, and didn’t show a great deal in the pre-seasons.  Also against Seville (I think) he was a yard off the pace of the defender chasing a through-ball.

 

Im sure he still has loads to offer the team, but unfortunately I feel it is now. a little more limited, and think we will stay to see more of Kelechi and Patson.

[CosbehFox]

16 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Does anyone think if Daka doesn’t get his chance soon, he’ll want out?

He doesn’t come across like that but surely must be wondering why he’s here. Apart from the money of course. 
Just a thought…

Because I'd bet a decent sum of money Vardy gets injured in the winter as his groin goes pop again until February

[CosbehFox]

3 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Just a thought, will he not want to turn-out for the American club he co-owns before he calls it a day? Surely he'll do that to raise their profile at some point.

I doubt - he would be playing reserve teams and games at college/high school stadiums. The club he has bought is a complete money pit as an actual proposition for success and it's more likely in fact a version of his academy where his agent mate creams 20% off any players who become a success. 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

That had come on to my radar the amount of goals he scored vs poorer teams last season and it will be interesting to see what his output is this season. What needs to be factored in though is of the games he did miss last season, a good chunk of them were against better sides. He played in all 6 games vs the relegated teams and only 19 other games against the rest of the PL where his record was a modest 5 from 19 but played Chelsea twice, Liverpool once, Utd once, Man City once, Arsenal once.

 

He absolutely deserves at least 1 more year here, even if his output tails off and then it's decided next season is his last season. I hope he transitions a bit more in to being an impact sub in some games and Daka or another system is used as there are games where from the start you can tell he's isolated out of the game and rhe opposition benefit from that but had he not started but then come on for the final part of the game that the opposition have more and a difficulty in adapting to that.

For me I'd be happy for him to have another year if he's willing to take a 50% cut and be playing more a background/impact sub role.

 

Just seems like sense to me that Vards will have more success coming on in the 60th minute against tiring legs and it gives Daka more opportunity to get acclimatised to playing at this level and developing his game.

[DezFox]

Vardy still our best striker keep starting him until he is not. If fit he should be the first name on the team sheet. If another strikers wants chances to start instead of him they need to take their chances (and they will get them) score more often then he does. I would imagine he will sign on for extra year and take a slight cut in wages for the extra year security.  

[dannythefox]

3 hours ago, Big Dave said:

Agree, however he wasn’t in the game against Brentford, and didn’t show a great deal in the pre-seasons.  Also against Seville (I think) he was a yard off the pace of the defender chasing a through-ball.

 

Im sure he still has loads to offer the team, but unfortunately I feel it is now. a little more limited, and think we will stay to see more of Kelechi and Patson.

Wasn’t in the game but set KDH up for the goal. He didn’t miss any chances because we didn’t put him through once, was one of those games. End of the season he’ll be 15 Goals+ and a handful of assists. He start every game while he can he still one of the best in the division. 

[desertfox2]

7 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Just a thought, will he not want to turn-out for the American club he co-owns before he calls it a day? Surely he'll do that to raise their profile at some point.

They aren't MLS they play in the league with all of the MLS reserve teams so there is no rush. He could probably play for them at 40+ and still be their best player. It seems a really odd "investment" most likely a money pit and as someone else pointed out he was probably talked into it by someone who wants to make agents fees on players or something unless I'm missing something.

[The_77]

1 hour ago, desertfox2 said:

They aren't MLS they play in the league with all of the MLS reserve teams so there is no rush. He could probably play for them at 40+ and still be their best player. It seems a really odd "investment" most likely a money pit and as someone else pointed out he was probably talked into it by someone who wants to make agents fees on players or something unless I'm missing something.

Long-term U.S. visa and/or green card 

[gerblod]

21 hours ago, dooflip said:

Jamie Vardy is the first name on the team sheet if you are scrapping for survival. His legs don’t even come in to it, IMO he’d be the first name in the team sheet in a survival scrap if he was on crutches, as long as he’s on the pitch. And a survival scrap is what this season will be, everybody knows it, especially the owners who I suspect are looking to sell up. Vardy has to stay, because we still have 39 points to get.

You got the hah-hahs because posters living in cloud-cuckoo-land can't envisage a situation where relegation is a possibility. The manner in which BR is continuing to make poor tactical decisions might suggest otherwise.

As for Vardy, as with Luke Thomas's youth, best-before and sell-by dates seem to obsess a proportion of posters on here. Vardy is still the sharpest tool in City's box when it comes to timing and positioning - keeping him fit and healthy is the prime consideration...not getting shot of him.

[Leeds Fox]

On 10/08/2022 at 10:43, filbertway said:

 that'd make for a great bit of TV. "Making a bastard: Staying with the Vardy's"

 

Because of his past success with us, I find that people are incredibly lenient on Vards when he goes through periods of games where he contributes very little on the ball. Whereas if Daka or Kel has a game like that, people will jump in quite quick and say "see, I told you he couldn't replace Vards". 

 

For me, we should be starting Patson most games this season, knowing that he has a season to work with Vards in training and we still have Vards who can come on for 30 minutes fresh at the end of a game. It'd do Daka's confidence the world of good if he knew that he'd have a chance to prove himself over a run of 15-20 starts. 

 

This would act as a way of us managing the transition. Rather than stifling Daka's development over a 2/3 year period and then panicking when Vards decides to call it a day. 

 

 

To be fair, many do say that Daka can’t do anything without the service.

 

Vardy gets isolated too I suppose, but his movement somewhat lessens that isolation. Whether Daka will learn that, I don’t know. 
 

I do hate to say this, but if this is a ‘transition’ season. Stabilise the squad, wages, finances etc… it should be used to transition Daka into the team effectively too. It won’t happen, but it’d be a good move for the future. 

[An Sionnach]

4 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said:

To be fair, many do say that Daka can’t do anything without the service.

 

Vardy gets isolated too I suppose, but his movement somewhat lessens that isolation. Whether Daka will learn that, I don’t know. 
 

I do hate to say this, but if this is a ‘transition’ season. Stabilise the squad, wages, finances etc… it should be used to transition Daka into the team effectively too. It won’t happen, but it’d be a good move for the future. 

If Daka doesn't get the match time this season , his agent will be advising him to move. He is 24 in October and patience must be running thin. There is no European football this year.

[SeCrEt FoX]

Been spotted at the Emirates...... 

[foxy boxing]

1 minute ago, SeCrEt FoX said:

Been spotted at the Emirates...... 

Same as Youri 

[sm1]

In talks for a 2 year extension

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11103439/Jamie-Vardy-set-new-deal-Leicester-club-37th-birthday.html

Edited 13 August 2022 by sm1

[justfoxes]

On 10/08/2022 at 09:41, foxfanazer said:

Daka hasn't shown anything to suggest he can pick up the slack of Vardy Col. I could understand if Vardy had a low scoring season last term but even with injuries and the plight of the team he managed to rack up a more than respectable goal tally.

 

He's a must keep imo

Trouble is he’s only getting a few minutes here and there like a few have said and I said pre season I think Daka should start every game give him game time to build his stamina and confidence up and then use Vardy as an impact sub in the 60th minute or so, I think that way Daka would come on in leaps and bounds and become the player we all know he can be trouble is I don’t think Brendan thinks the same way as us ?

[stu]

Sure there’s nothing in this, but there is a line in this article that suggests that Vardy is one of the names on a striker list that Utd are considering making a move for, another name being Morata.