Villa - Postponed

[Smudge]

34 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

I’m not from a Commonwealth country, and not a monarchist.  Irrespective of Queen Elizabeth herself, it seems odd to me to have everyone’s lives simply stop for 10 days for mourning.  People can mourn and function at the same time, can’t they?  She had a damn good innings - 96 years and the longest reign in British history.  Surely with something like football there can be armbands and respectful tributes as the matches go on.

 

I say all this knowing this weekend’s fixtures will be cancelled, and probably next too.  Nothing about the monarchy makes any sense so why should this be any different…

You are right, you have no part of British tradition or standards when someone has passed. Probably young people from the UK or Commonwealth share your view. However, those of us who actually witnessed the Queen becoming our monarch, were brought up with a sense of a time of mourning, a time for reflection absent self gratification in terms of entertainment.

[inckley fox]

55 minutes ago, Smudge said:

You are right, you have no part of British tradition or standards when someone has passed. Probably young people from the UK or Commonwealth share your view. However, those of us who actually witnessed the Queen becoming our monarch, were brought up with a sense of a time of mourning, a time for reflection absent self gratification in terms of entertainment.

Unless I'm mistaken, they didn't stop the football when the last monarch died. And he was in his fifties at the time, so there must have been a greater sense of shock, in some senses, than there is now. Alternatively, you could say that seven decades of service, right to the end, is quite exceptional, but it's not like that hasn't been, and isn't going to be, amply recognised.

 

I'm not sure why a period of mourning for the passing of a monarch is incompatible with people enjoying sport, or enjoying anything else. Mourning in general doesn't mean that the clocks have to stop, the shadow has to fall, and that life has to be re-dedicated to grief. I fully appreciate that whether people are monarchists or not, it's right to be respectful that a significant national servant, and symbol, has passed away, and that there will be solemnity and remembrance. But I'm not sure, as a rule, that it's necessary for sports not to happen when bad things happen. From what I understand, that idea seemed a bit old-fashioned and over-the-top back in 1952, so I'm not sure why it's doing the rounds now.

 

And, to be quite frank, if people aren't going to see the Villa game on Saturday because it's postponed, then I doubt very much they'll return home to listen to patriotic music and weep either. They'll just head down the pub a few hours earlier. And I suspect a dignified tribute to the Queen at the game would be more fitting than whatever people get up to on their eighth pint.

[Deeg67]

Unless they make them close the pubs too.

[Guest glasgowfox]

7 hours ago, TJQuik said:

He's actually less ignorant because he's not fussed by this absurd theatre mate

Why comment if not fussed....shameful imo

[The Year Of The Fox]

Get the games postponed and then at least we can be unbeaten this week

[Deeg67]

33 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Get the games postponed and then at least we can be unbeaten this week

God save our back four.

[Bog]

8 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

God save our back four.

Banzai !

[sdb]

6 hours ago, lanefox said:

If anyone is sitting at home crying about this then they need to see a psychiatrist 

Can't disagree 

[Arkie Bennett]

We should have a minute's applause on the 96th minute.

[PhillippaT]

2 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

Unless they make them close the pubs too.

I don't drink, but I still recognise that to be a really bad idea it will make a lot of people very angry and will be widely regarded as a bad move.

[An Away Move]

6 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

It's only £50. Stop moaning 

Don’t be such a knob. I simply made the point that a lot of fans would be left out of pocket. You might be able to lose £50 and for it to be nothing, but that’s not the case for many of us. 

Edited 9 September 2022 by An Away Move

[jim5000]

If it’s cancelled Rodgers will survive another week 

[lanefox]

Are people too naive to see that we’re acting like North Korea right now

[FoxyJim1987]

3 minutes ago, lanefox said:

Are people too naive to see that we’re acting like North Korea right now

What the actual fvck are you talking about?? It's just a mark of respect, simple as that. You're not being ordered to stay in. Some people these days have literally no respect at all and are so selfish it's unbelievable. She's spent 70 years on the throne I think one weekend of no football won't kill you.

[FoxyJim1987]

41 minutes ago, sdb said:

Can't disagree 

I can, everyone's different doesn't mean they are mental.

[BeaumontFox]

I assume if all the matches are postponed this weekend that they’ll all be rescheduled for midweek. Go ahead with them.

 

[LCFCJohn]

Can’t lose if you don’t play

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[Vacamion]

46 minutes ago, PhillippaT said:

I don't drink, but I still recognise that to be a really bad idea it will make a lot of people very angry and will be widely regarded as a bad move.

 

 

[Sir Shep]

52 minutes ago, Arkie Bennett said:

We should have a minute's applause on the 96th minute.

Just after we have conceded! 

[Walshie is God]

It is very sad that this forum comes to this on the passing of the greatest monarch that will ever live in any country. 

 

We are nasty and aggressive towards each other, why?

 

It's tradition in this country to show respect when something like this happens. Regardless of your view, without tradition we become boring and lose our identity (ring any bells). This place highlights everything that is wrong with social media. Keyboard warriors with no respect for anything except their own views and feelings

 

If the game is postponed so be it, they could even postpone the Tottenham one too. If they do they do, don't get angry about it ffs.

 

God save the king. 

[Ricey]

16 minutes ago, BeaumontFox said:

I assume if all the matches are postponed this weekend that they’ll all be rescheduled for midweek. Go ahead with them.

 

I can see that as well, but it seems pointless. What difference does a few days make and it’s still just as disruptive to peoples plans.

[Md9]

1 hour ago, Arkie Bennett said:

We should have a minute's applause on the 96th minute.

Only utd and Liverpool will be able to do this,  if they are not winning that is

[Sampson]

47 minutes ago, Walshie is God said:

It is very sad that this forum comes to this on the passing of the greatest monarch that will ever live in any country. 

 

We are nasty and aggressive towards each other, why?

 

It's tradition in this country to show respect when something like this happens. Regardless of your view, without tradition we become boring and lose our identity (ring any bells). This place highlights everything that is wrong with social media. Keyboard warriors with no respect for anything except their own views and feelings

 

If the game is postponed so be it, they could even postpone the Tottenham one too. If they do they do, don't get angry about it ffs.

 

God save the king. 

Or alternatively, without questioning traditions we become subservient and lose our identity. Your post highlights everything that is wrong with social media. A post berating others for not sharing your own view and feelings.

 

I don’t wish death on anyone, certainly not a woman with a family and I understand it’s devastating for her family and friends, but cancelling public events and only playing depressing songs on the radio for 2 weeks across the entire country for someone who inherited her job by birth is absolutely silly in 2022. Don’t really see what’s wrong with pointing it out, feels like a perfectly valid thing to be questioning that tradition to me.

Edited 9 September 2022 by Sampson
Unfortunate typo

[StanSP]

I expect all the games to be postponed this weekend. 

 

[BeaumontFox]

8 minutes ago, Ricey said:

I can see that as well, but it seems pointless. What difference does a few days make and it’s still just as disruptive to peoples plans.

I understand the significance of what has happened, but there is an opportunity there to play the national anthem before kick off and pay respects together instead of sitting in silence all weekend.