Rodgers sends warning to unhappy players

[ParkerPen]

the only one that realistically could be here after the summer is Amartey, (and i think we should keep him as a backup/utlity)

 

Evans is finished, and the rest either don't want to be here, or aren't wanted - rightly so in the cases of the latter, with the exception of Soyuncu, but who know wtf has happened there.

[RonnieTodger]

If we sell Tielemans now, we deserve to go down. 

[suffolk fox]

Reading between the lines and not having this vendetta against Rogers, its quite clear ffp is crippling us.  Lets face it we have given bit part players over the years ridicously high salary and cotracts that no other club can afford hence why, we cant even shift most players out on loan.  Reason, is other clubs cant afford the wages of that said player.  Player also has every right not to accept a pay cut.

 

Afterall, would you if your boss came in and said we want you to stay for another 5 years, when we took you on we agreed this wage but now we can only afford this, a pay cut.  Quite rightly you wouldnt be happy.

 

Its easy to blame Rogers, he is the fall guy, but I dont believe for one minute he has a say in contracts, wages terms n conditions.

 

That has to be Mr Rudkin..  Sooner that man gets out of our club the better, it has to be the board not Rodgers.  We are now hearing the same rumblings we heard in the summer re transfers.   I doubt for one minute we will sign anyone.  Towards the end of the window we may get one or two in on loans again, but that will be it.

 

Something definitely wrong at our club, finances are not quite what they were or should be.  

[Stevosevic]

I actually agree with him on this one. 

[sm1]

4 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

this bits interesting.  Clearly there are a few players that have asked for big money, my guess would be soyuncu. The fact we made an offer late in the day shows that he was still open to staying, i think half of this situation has been down to him not budging on what he wants. 

 

Surely rodgers can’t be purely keeping him out because of performance. Even the biggest grudges would fade after some of the batterings we took this season. 

 

 

personally i’d be offering big dan a contract and trying everything to persuade youri…but it’s time to go for the rest of them 

 

I'm not sure Cags is the only one looking for big money. Apparently Arsenal were interested in signing  Tielemans in the summer, but were put off with his huge wage demands. Maybe that's why no other club came for him either, it was easier just to wait for him to be a free agent. 

[Simoken]

Hardly see this being BR fault, all he wants to do is coach and build a winning team, its the backroom staff that have let him down. running contracts and not supplying in demand. that training ground was made 10 years too early for starters. #ROODDGERSSRTILLIIIIDIIIEEE

Edited 6 January 2023 by Simoken

[The Quick Brown Fox]

If only someone would send a warning to this clown. 

[smudgerfox]

Running down contracts is becoming much more common. Players and agents have realised they can sit it out and when they finally move out of contract, any transfer fee which would have been paid to their home club, will now be paid to them as a signing on fee instead. It’s something which will spread and will destroy the business model of many mid range clubs. As usual it’s getting no coverage in our personality-driven sports media and because it doesn’t affect the likes of Man U or Chelsea  to anything like the same extent. 

[Death by Football]

25 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

I actually agree with him on this one. 

Pains me to say it but I agree with him too.  If players want to leave they shouldn't be here.  If they want more money than we can afford to pay we have to say no.  And if nobody wants to buy them we can't sell them.

I do put a lot of the blame for the players not wanting to be here at his door...if they had a chance to play without needing there to be an injury crisis before they get a look in they might be more engaged.

And as has been said before, it makes far more sense to a player in the last year of their contract to just see it out and get a big signing on fee when they move six months later so why would they move for less money and smaller sign on fee?  While it's a short career, if they're not playing they shouldn't get any bad injuries and can soak up a six to twelve month period with limited game time while pocketing a great wage.

[Dames]

I can see his point but at the same time I can see the point of the players asking for more money when this clown is earning what he is. Its a catch 22 situation because he'll moan about players demanding too much because of resources but he wont reduce his own packet or leave of his own accord to help the club out. Although not many people in his shoes would give up the wage he is on but its still cheeky for him to complain about players wanting parity. 

[KFS]

Tbf I think Youri has been taking the piss for a year now, so I don’t disagree. Not sure he needed to say it in the media though

[goose2010]

1 hour ago, RumbleFox said:

I didn’t say he was the sole reason for anyone leaving, that would be mad. I said one of the reasons. He certainly must play a factor. 

Why ? When i last left my job, my boss played no part of the reason i left? If Cags and his agent made his intentions clear that he was going to leave on a free because he wanted a new challenge do you blame BR for not playing him? 

[Sharpe's Fox]

He's right but his complaints arise from the motivation of exonerating himself. Brendan's number one priority is what is best for Brendan. That's fine, but don't act like you are doing us all a favour.

[Mickyblueeyes]

I have no problem with any player wanting to leave and club coming to the decision to sell early to protect interests. That is business and football. 

 

Out of all the players I have seen at Leicester in the last few years. Mahrez and Kante remain the best of them. We replaced them and competed. Means, when done right, we can replace anyone of the current bunch. 

 

What I do have an issue with is not using those funds or actively working to replace those players to ensure the product (i.e. the team) is depleted significantly. I am all for investment off the pitch but that should be in line with ensuring the team is competitive.

 

We havent done the latter very well lately. 

[StriderHiryu]

54 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

 

Something definitely wrong at our club, finances are not quite what they were or should be.  

Gambled on getting Champions League football and blew it. That's what the issue looks like to me.

 

Add Covid crippling King Power to the mix, and here we are. 

 

This season sucks, but a complete house clear and rebuild for essentially our 3rd era in the Premier League (hopefully not the Championship) is what we are about to see. 

[kiwiturk]

Damaged done and too late for many things.

How much BR costs this club in real numbers is beyond belief,

His own salary (one of the highest paid coach in EPL)

No fee for Kasper

No fee for Cags ( was worth around £80 millions not long ago)

Combination of disaster signings and its  financial burdens ( Bertrand,  Vestergaard  etc)

And he is not happy with the players and issue them a warning???

How about us, the LCFC community?

How and when we are gonna send him for packing?

He needs to leave immediately.

 

[5waller5]

10 hours ago, moore_94 said:

He didn’t give him the armband, the players and staff as a whole did

I knew this about the vice captain but didn’t realise they did this with the captain too

[An Sionnach]

It always makes me laugh when a manager tries to shift blame to players. Many of ours will still be with us when Rodgers is a clueless commentator on Sky Sports. Managers are highly disposable , ask Chelsea. Sadly our naive owners dished out a ridiculous contract making disposing expensive. Having said that many on here thought it was a good idea.

[RumbleFox]

11 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Why ? When i last left my job, my boss played no part of the reason i left? If Cags and his agent made his intentions clear that he was going to leave on a free because he wanted a new challenge do you blame BR for not playing him? 

Sorry, I’m not always good at explaining my thoughts concisely. What I was trying to say is that if, for example, let’s say 5 players want to run down their contracts and leave then let’s say each player has 3 or 4 contributing factors for wanting to do so. These could include fancying a change, more money, change of location, bigger club, etc. I would wager that for a few of these players then the manager may play, even if small, at least a role in this. I’m not particularly blaming BR for anything, in fact I’m usually one of those supporters who always jumps to the defence of managers and players. I think it’s time for Brendan to move on but I wish him no ill. I just think he needs to look at himself even one percent. The culture of any workplace does come from the top. Again apologies if I sounded flippant, this is a silly little football forum and sometimes we all post things without sitting and planning what we are going to say too much. Thank you for pulling me up. 

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

I have no problem with any player wanting to leave and club coming to the decision to sell early to protect interests. That is business and football. 

 

Out of all the players I have seen at Leicester in the last few years. Mahrez and Kante remain the best of them. We replaced them and competed. Means, when done right, we can replace anyone of the current bunch. 

 

What I do have an issue with is not using those funds or actively working to replace those players to ensure the product (i.e. the team) is depleted significantly. I am all for investment off the pitch but that should be in line with ensuring the team is competitive.

 

We havent done the latter very well lately. 

The 2 you mention were wanted by a lot of big clubs though.  I can't see anyone except Maddison in our squad right now that would be wanted by a host of clubs.  Even Tielemans seems to have been priced out of a move by the club with only 1 year left on his contract.

 

Add to this the stupid wages we are paying some of these players and no one is going to pay a fee and their current wages to the likes of Perez, Vestergaard etc.  Unless we take a mini hit with them or manage to even loan them out for a small fee and wages covered, then they will be here to the summer at least. Poor decisions on players transfer fees and too much in wages is now crippling the club.

 

Where Rodgers has it wrong is that he alone is responsible for wanting to sign half the dross we are now left with.  This is what worries me when we have to replace the last 2 remaining talents we really have at the moment in Maddison and Tielemans.  As it stands we look to me to be bang in trouble, if not this season then definitely next I see relegation on the cards unless we spend some proper money.  Would you trust Rodgers to spend any money wisely?  I am not sure I do.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Simoken said:

Hardly see this being BR fault, all he wants to do is coach and build a winning team, its the backroom staff that have let him down. running contracts and not supplying in demand. that training ground was made 10 years too early for starters. #ROODDGERSSRTILLIIIIDIIIEEE

He's culpable as well. Wanted Soumare sold and then a bid came in and he then said he wanted him to stay, likewise Praet. Players are bought for him and he doesn't use them - fair enough some of them are crap but he had his man in to recruit for him in Lee Congerton. I've little sympathy, but given they won't sack him, then they have to back him so I can understand why he's reacting the way he is.

[Mickyblueeyes]

19 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

The 2 you mention were wanted by a lot of big clubs though.  I can't see anyone except Maddison in our squad right now that would be wanted by a host of clubs.  Even Tielemans seems to have been priced out of a move by the club with only 1 year left on his contract.

 

Add to this the stupid wages we are paying some of these players and no one is going to pay a fee and their current wages to the likes of Perez, Vestergaard etc.  Unless we take a mini hit with them or manage to even loan them out for a small fee and wages covered, then they will be here to the summer at least. Poor decisions on players transfer fees and too much in wages is now crippling the club.

 

Where Rodgers has it wrong is that he alone is responsible for wanting to sign half the dross we are now left with.  This is what worries me when we have to replace the last 2 remaining talents we really have at the moment in Maddison and Tielemans.  As it stands we look to me to be bang in trouble, if not this season then definitely next I see relegation on the cards unless we spend some proper money.  Would you trust Rodgers to spend any money wisely?  I am not sure I do.

Yep - cant disagree. Like I said, we havent done the second part very well. 

[taupe]

Players can only be 'moved on' if there is a club that wants them, and is prepared to pay their wages. Asking them to move on if they're "unhappy" may not actually be addressing the issue. They may be quite happy to simply train and be paid. There's little anyone can do about that (club or manager) Appeals to some sense of decency (or whatever) are going to fall on deaf ears.

 

We're in a curious situation, players' contracts wise, and I'm sure many clubs are in the same boat. Players can run down contracts, take the wages and bide their time. Maybe we ought look to Gareth Bale and Real Madrid as the forerunner (or if not a forerunner then a more notable case, Winston Bogarde arguably did it at Chelsea) Quite openly happy to take the wages, do the contractual minimum (i.e. turn up to training etc) and go and play golf or whatever; and have an excellent lifestyle.  Maybe Cags has decided a similar course of action.

 

Maybe the issue is with the nature of the current contract? I note, incidentally, that Chelsea's new recruit has signed a 7 1/2 year contract.  

[Beachyboy]

11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He's culpable as well. Wanted Soumare sold and then a bid came in and he then said he wanted him to stay, likewise Praet. Players are bought for him and he doesn't use them - fair enough some of them are crap but he had his man in to recruit for him in Lee Congerton. I've little sympathy, but given they won't sack him, then they have to back him so I can understand why he's reacting the way he is.

How do we even back him tho? If we say we don't trust your transfer decisions, we will sign some players for you, he probably won't play them, an if he approves the signings there is a good chance they will be crap.

Edited 6 January 2023 by Beachyboy

[ARTY_FOX]

Can we let him go instead?