K789 Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 His salary is gonna be cut by 50% of course he'll want a move
Stevosevic Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 Think we need to keep some of the group. Ricardo Souttar Faes and Justin should be a decent back line for that level and that’s without adding any new players to the squad.
wardyfox86 Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 I have sympathy for JJ in that he hasn't really been involved in this mess but will have his salary cut. Any first team player that wants out or will only stay for negotiated reductions can go forth and multiply, they are the last thing we need.
Lambert09 Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 If someone will give us 15m for Justin Id take it personally 3
LVFox Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 I can massively see Luton looking at grabbing him back on a loan with option to buy if they stay up/we stay down. If they win against Cov of course.
CosbehFox Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 6 minutes ago, LVFox said: I can massively see Luton looking at grabbing him back on a loan with option to buy if they stay up/we stay down. If they win against Cov of course. I can't. Luton ain't gonna start paying £50k wages any time soon until their new ground is all sorted 2
lcfc sheff Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 Sadly I think he’s had one to many injuries to get a big bid for him 1
Buzzell Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 I don’t think he’ll push for a move but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s interested parties looking at him. He needs to knuckle down and get playing again, focusing on his fitness. He’s a massive gamble for any club with his injury record. 3
MPH Posted 18 May 2023 Posted 18 May 2023 7 hours ago, Lambert09 said: If someone will give us 15m for Justin Id take it personally Mods… 1
dylanlegend Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 11 hours ago, K789 said: His salary is gonna be cut by 50% of course he'll want a move We’ve been paying his salary in full for 2 years while he’s been injured 1
ozleicester Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 3 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: We’ve been paying his salary in full for 2 years while he’s been injured As we should 1
dylanlegend Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 Just now, ozleicester said: As we should Correct. But to suggest he’ll walk at the first opportunity cos he’s getting a pay cut doesn’t sit right with me. Is there no loyalty anymore? We won’t be getting lots of offers for players like JJ. PL teams aren’t going to risk 15-20mill on a player that has only just got back from injury. He has to prove himself again basically so needs to crack on. If players aren’t happy with pay cuts they shouldn’t sign the contracts. 3
Dan Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 This will be an unprecedented level of players wanting out. I think there's going to be a hell of a lot of bitterness from our fans to our players even compared to where it's currently at. I am convinced this is the greatest squander in the leagues history. 3
Genesis1 Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 12 hours ago, Stevosevic said: Think we need to keep some of the group. Ricardo Souttar Faes and Justin should be a decent back line for that level and that’s without adding any new players to the squad. I would want Faes out. It's highly likely he'd be well suited a league down but then you have to keep him if we go up and I just don't see him improving. Would want the other 3 though starting each game. 1
ozleicester Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 2 hours ago, dylanlegend said: Correct. But to suggest he’ll walk at the first opportunity cos he’s getting a pay cut doesn’t sit right with me. Is there no loyalty anymore? We won’t be getting lots of offers for players like JJ. PL teams aren’t going to risk 15-20mill on a player that has only just got back from injury. He has to prove himself again basically so needs to crack on. If players aren’t happy with pay cuts they shouldn’t sign the contracts. TBF, if someone wandered up to me and said ill double your pay to do the same job... id be hard pushed to refuse. There is NO loyalty in football hasnt been for 50 years. If people want to buy him, it would seem he doesnt have to prove himself. PLayers sign contracts, clubs agree andf then if someone comes along and make an offer for a player that the club and the payer agree with... the contract is fulfilled and the player leaves.
Ric Flair Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 Anything over £10m I'd sell anyway, I don't see us overhauling Segrave quick enough for him to be able to reinvent his game to not get another long term injury so it just continues to be money down the pan. I'd also let Ricardo leave on a free. 2
Tommy Fresh Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 6 hours ago, dylanlegend said: Correct. But to suggest he’ll walk at the first opportunity cos he’s getting a pay cut doesn’t sit right with me. Is there no loyalty anymore? We won’t be getting lots of offers for players like JJ. PL teams aren’t going to risk 15-20mill on a player that has only just got back from injury. He has to prove himself again basically so needs to crack on. If players aren’t happy with pay cuts they shouldn’t sign the contracts. Iain Hume didn't want to leave City but we were cutting his wages and he'd just bought a house and got a mortgage based on what he was earning. Aware what Justin would drop down to, would still be a very very good wage, but would you want to possibly have to change your lifestyle completly? Regardless of how good it would still be compared to the general public. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, dylanlegend said: We’ve been paying his salary in full for 2 years while he’s been injured ...not his fault that he has suffered these long-term injuries, but as you have said, he has been paid for his time outside of the team!!! As a young man with perhaps family responsibilities, he is right to look for the best deal he can get, but this is a life lesson. This is not his fault, that he may find himself now having to play in a lower league, but show some sense of integrity and take what the club has stipulated and work to get the club back up. You tend to find out who you are in adversity, and no one wants to see themselves as a mercenary, show some integrity. Edited 19 May 2023 by sacreblueits442
dylanlegend Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 6 hours ago, ozleicester said: TBF, if someone wandered up to me and said ill double your pay to do the same job... id be hard pushed to refuse. There is NO loyalty in football hasnt been for 50 years. If people want to buy him, it would seem he doesnt have to prove himself. PLayers sign contracts, clubs agree andf then if someone comes along and make an offer for a player that the club and the payer agree with... the contract is fulfilled and the player leaves. Of course but think that’s unlikely with JJ in fact we’d possibly be paying the same wage for him in the championship than Roma can afford to offer him. Also I see this as short term thinking. He will probably paid more over the long term if he stays for one season in the championship and we hopefully get promoted his wage goes back up, than signing for Luton for 1 season then bacl relegated again. Remember Joe Mattock? Jumped ship as soon as we were relegated. Can almost guarantee he’d have had a better career if he’d have stayed.
sacreblueits442 Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 10 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Remember Joe Mattock? Jumped ship as soon as we were relegated. Can almost guarantee he’d have had a better career if he’d have stayed. ....left us to go to "a bigger club" (WBA)!!! Last I saw, he was plying his trade at Rotherham
Mike Oxlong Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 23 hours ago, UniFox21 said: Talksport reporting JJ will push for a move. Fairly laughable when he can't stay fit for more than a few months at a time. He’ll need a mobility scooter to make it happen on his history with us 2
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 🙄 not another who going to jump ship......we might aswell try bringing in youngsters from the academy and those who have been successful on loan....else we'll be running on empty with season starting early for the championship
ClaphamFox Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 1 hour ago, dylanlegend said: Of course but think that’s unlikely with JJ in fact we’d possibly be paying the same wage for him in the championship than Roma can afford to offer him. Also I see this as short term thinking. He will probably paid more over the long term if he stays for one season in the championship and we hopefully get promoted his wage goes back up, than signing for Luton for 1 season then bacl relegated again. Remember Joe Mattock? Jumped ship as soon as we were relegated. Can almost guarantee he’d have had a better career if he’d have stayed. Mattock left after we got promoted back to the Championship, not after relegation. But I agree that he’d probably have had a better career had he stayed. No real loss though - he was rubbish.
Guest nathan. Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 8 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Anything over £10m I'd sell anyway, I don't see us overhauling Segrave quick enough for him to be able to reinvent his game to not get another long term injury so it just continues to be money down the pan. I'd also let Ricardo leave on a free. But obviously keep Tete?
MPH Posted 19 May 2023 Posted 19 May 2023 9 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Anything over £10m I'd sell anyway, I don't see us overhauling Segrave quick enough for him to be able to reinvent his game to not get another long term injury so it just continues to be money down the pan. I'd also let Ricardo leave on a free. Bit early to be on the drink, Ric! 1
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