Bettsj2 Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Why? By meaningful I really meant having a run of games where his contribution couldn't have been done without. Don't get me wrong, there have been examples of his quality (Birmingham at home, the cross for the Norwich winner), but we can't afford to have a player taking a squad place and eating up wages on the chance that he may do something decent every once in a while.
Tuna Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 (edited) Not good enough for premier league, thanks for the contribution though Edited 8 May 2024 by Tuna
shen Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 2 hours ago, Stadt said: A bargain!? I don't mind him but we lost £89.5m in last year's accounts. We can lose £105m over 3 years so £10m for Akgun is ludicrous. We're going to have to sign 2 or even 3 players for that sort of money. We can lose less for the next three years under current PSR rules, just like Forest, due to use having been one season in the Championship where the loss allowed is much less. At least that's how I understand it. 1
Stadt Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 10 minutes ago, shen said: We can lose less for the next three years under current PSR rules, just like Forest, due to use having been one season in the Championship where the loss allowed is much less. At least that's how I understand it. Do you mean lose more than otherwise?
shen Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 2 minutes ago, Stadt said: Do you mean lose more than otherwise? I mean, for the period we're charged for the total loss across three seasons (all in the PL) is £105m/£35m average per season or thereabouts. Assuming the rules stay the same (I know the PL voted to change so this is unlikely), our permitted loss for the next three years would include (at least) 1 season in the Championship, which allows around £13m loss per season on average. So as I understand it we're allowed up to £83m loss rolling over the next three years...
Stadt Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 2 minutes ago, shen said: I mean, for the period we're charged for the total loss across three seasons (all in the PL) is £105m/£35m average per season or thereabouts. Assuming the rules stay the same (I know the PL voted to change so this is unlikely), our permitted loss for the next three years would include (at least) 1 season in the Championship, which allows around £13m loss per season on average. So as I understand it we're allowed up to £83m loss rolling over the next three years... Sorry I get the principle it’s just your wording confused me (not trying to be difficult) 1
westernpark Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I’d take him on a free transfer, or even under 1.5 million quid. But, as much as I like the guy, we can’t afford to be spending that much on squad fillers.
Foxes96 Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 Sorry to be really pedantic but… The obligation for Yunus is €10m = ~£8.5m The obligation for Fatawu is €17m = ~£14.5m 2
Popular Post StanSP Posted 8 May 2024 Popular Post Posted 8 May 2024 I reckon he's the kind of player who'll come good in a European league who succeeds in Europa League. Not quite good enough for the top tier but good enough for mid-rate competitions and decent level of division like Eredivisie/Ligue 1/Portuguese Liga 5
SafewayFox Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I need to let it go but actually thought Under was better 👀
Oldblueyes Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I think he would fit into the under 16 team. He wouldn't look out of place physically wise. 1
sm1 Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I like him, he's a decent player with good close control. The problem is, he's not fast enough for the wing or strong enough for CM role, so he'll never be a starter. It would be fun to play the Turks at their own game and knock his price to 2-3M and see what happens. 1
Ric Flair Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 The option/obligation isn't £10m but even at £6-7m or whatever it works out to be I think I'd look elsewhere. He's got plenty of ability but not quite sure he's suited to English football. He really got his head down and wants to make it here and I respect him for that. He did his bit at times and I wish him all the best if we don't take up the option. 1
foxinsocks Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: The option/obligation isn't £10m but even at £6-7m or whatever it works out to be I think I'd look elsewhere. He's got plenty of ability but not quite sure he's suited to English football. He really got his head down and wants to make it here and I respect him for that. He did his bit at times and I wish him all the best if we don't take up the option. His last two cameos at no 10 have been very positive 2
Blue-fox Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I actually think he would look better in the prem rather than the championship. 4
MPH Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 He would have made a decent squad player but for the money we can get someone equally as good if not better. Thanks for your efforts, Yunus. It was a pleasure.
westernpark Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 (edited) . Edited 9 May 2024 by westernpark Strange rant.
Paninistickers Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 (edited) Always slightly amused that Ghezzal was absolutely hammered in his time with us, yet was a very respectable player, albeit not quite good enough for what we needed at that time. Yet rank ordinary ploddi players like Yunus, or Under, or the criminally abysmal Tete, got far less stick and often, got quite a lot of advocates. Edit to add; Perez. He is miles and miles ahead of Yunus, yet few players pissed off the crowd as.much. Edited 8 May 2024 by Paninistickers 1
moore_94 Posted 8 May 2024 Author Posted 8 May 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Always slightly amused that Ghezzal was absolutely hammered in his time with us, yet was a very respectable player, albeit not quite good enough for what we needed at that time. Yet rank ordinary ploddi players like Yunus, or Under, or the criminally abysmal Tete, got far less stick and often, got quite a lot of advocates. Edit to add; Perez. He is miles and miles ahead of Yunus, yet few players pissed off the crowd as.much. Ghezzal cost us £10m and was shocking, and we got naff all back for him We didn't spaff 10s of millions on Yunus, Under, and Tete as they were on loan and were able to get rid of them after 1 season (or half a season in Tete's case) Even though his overall loan was rubbish, Tete for me showed more in that 1 game against Villa than we saw from Ghezzal I never minded Perez, I thought we overpaid for him but I still liked him Edited 8 May 2024 by moore_94 1
coolhandfox Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: The option/obligation isn't £10m but even at £6-7m or whatever it works out to be I think I'd look elsewhere. He's got plenty of ability but not quite sure he's suited to English football. He really got his head down and wants to make it here and I respect him for that. He did his bit at times and I wish him all the best if we don't take up the option. Shame because his shown flashes of being a good player, he's just not been able to pull it all together. I agree there aŕe more gems we could unearth for less. 1
Tielemans63 Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 51 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Always slightly amused that Ghezzal was absolutely hammered in his time with us, yet was a very respectable player, albeit not quite good enough for what we needed at that time. Yet rank ordinary ploddi players like Yunus, or Under, or the criminally abysmal Tete, got far less stick and often, got quite a lot of advocates. Edit to add; Perez. He is miles and miles ahead of Yunus, yet few players pissed off the crowd as.much. I actually agree with you about Perez, but Ghezzal.....he was absolutely terrible. Worst first touch I think I've ever seen from a top flight winger. He was truly honking.
fox_up_north Posted 8 May 2024 Posted 8 May 2024 I also liked Perez. We paid too much but as a player, he was fine. We must not repeat that sort of spending. Buy smart.
Muzzy_no7 Posted 9 May 2024 Posted 9 May 2024 I’d take him for 5-7.5m as we are going to be VERY short on options at 8/10 and on the flanks
coolhandfox Posted 9 May 2024 Posted 9 May 2024 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: I’d take him for 5-7.5m as we are going to be VERY short on options at 8/10 and on the flanks Hull paid 5m for Philogene from Villa academy who end the season with 12 goals and 6 assist. Plymouth paid 1m for Morgan Whittaker 19 goals and 8 assist. That shows there are plenty of gems out there we can find rather then paying 7m for a player who contributed 1 goal and 2 assists at this level and taking up to the next level. We need to be looking for those sort of hidden talents. Edited 9 May 2024 by coolhandfox 3
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