Cooper - OUT

[marcymarc666]

1 hour ago, cropstonfox said:

This is basically the same side that got relegated under Rogers.

Minus Maddison,Barnes,KDH and

Jonny sicknote Evans.

Also minus Natcho and Daks injured.

Also Vardy 2+ years older.

We are doing well to be competing in games.Think the problem lies deeper than the Manager.Any candidate thinking of his reputation would not touch us with a long barge pole.

 

Do you think the world is basically flat with round edges ?

[Fox92]

46 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is bollocks.

 

Last season proves this team can be unified and all come together singing from the same hymn sheet. This squad is better than that team that got relegated in my opinion, it’s got a better balance to it. Our issue lay with the manager, he’s unable to get a grip on the side, and it just clearly isn’t working. This idea that there’s some deeply routed problem was out to bed last season, yes the board has made mistakes, but that’s what they are. Enzo has proven this squad is capable of being moulded with clear and concise leadership, Cooper seems to be incapable of achieving either with us. 

We lost Maddison, Tielemens and Barnes. People don't realise how good the side was. If we would have sacked Rodgers earlier, stayed up and then got a good manager in the summer then we'd have pushed again for top 6 with the squad we had then. This season's squad is not better and we still rely on a 37 year old to score goals ffs.

 

I am not taking last season and comparing it with this season. Last season we were up against the likes of Rotherham and Plymouth. We had one of the best squads in the Championship ever and rightly got promoted. This squad is "capable".... in the Championship.

 

Cooper is the issue, obviously as he is manager, but some of these players are awful and would not get into any other PL team.

Edited 30 September 2024 by Fox92

[Muzzy_no7]

You just know that Wolves will replace O’Neil with Sergio Conceicao and Soton will grab Hjulmand or Schmidt while we faff about with Gothmog. 

[Mon.is.a.god]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

This is bollocks.

 

Last season proves this team can be unified and all come together singing from the same hymn sheet. This squad is better than that team that got relegated in my opinion, it’s got a better balance to it. Our issue lay with the manager, he’s unable to get a grip on the side, and it just clearly isn’t working. This idea that there’s some deeply routed problem was out to bed last season, yes the board has made mistakes, but that’s what they are. Enzo has proven this squad is capable of being moulded with clear and concise leadership, Cooper seems to be incapable of achieving either with us. 

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo

[The_77]

We’re conceding an average of 2 goals per game both expected and actual. Not a good recipe for success when you have to score 2 goals to get a point or 3 to get a win. Something needs to change, and quickly. 

[HitchinFox]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

This is bollocks.

 

Last season proves this team can be unified and all come together singing from the same hymn sheet. This squad is better than that team that got relegated in my opinion, it’s got a better balance to it. Our issue lay with the manager, he’s unable to get a grip on the side, and it just clearly isn’t working. This idea that there’s some deeply routed problem was out to bed last season, yes the board has made mistakes, but that’s what they are. Enzo has proven this squad is capable of being moulded with clear and concise leadership, Cooper seems to be incapable of achieving either with us. 

 

I can't figure out whether you're being serious or not saying that. Because the rest of the post makes sense - this squad is definitely good enough to stay up (under the right manager). 

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Been called out already but this is a very silly comment

OK point taken by several posters.

Should have said ......This team is substantially weaker than the relegated

team.The weak players have remained and the better players have left.This leaves us with a weaker team than the one that was

relegated.

That's why we are poor and Cooper has actually got us over achieving according to the Xg stats.

We are in a relegation fight with or without cooper. Should give him until Xmas to get us over achieving further and throw some money at it in January.

 

 

[FLAN]

1 hour ago, les-tah said:

Do we generally or do teams in general put a clause in manager’s contract to say if we drop into bottom 3 after X amount of games we can sack you for X amount of compensation?? 

Highly unlikely this time given we expected a deduction at some point 

[RonnieTodger]

3 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Good news

 

We are officially scoring way above expectation based on chances. So when this inevitably stops we are in deep shit. 

 

 

Is there a version of this for xG v goals conceded? 
 

Would probably be even worse. 

[tickler28]

3 hours ago, DezFox said:

That’s the problem IMO. 3 or 4 more matches wasted. 

Mate it's probably gonna be longer than that knowing our board....that's me being optimistic 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

30 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

OK point taken by several posters.

Should have said ......This team is substantially weaker than the relegated

team.The weak players have remained and the better players have left.This leaves us with a weaker team than the one that was

relegated.

That's why we are poor and Cooper has actually got us over achieving according to the Xg stats.

We are in a relegation fight with or without cooper. Should give him until Xmas to get us over achieving further and throw some money at it in January.

 

 

 

I would argue those xG stats point to the players overachieving in this system rather than the manager? They're converting nothing chances.

[Ric Flair]

36 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

OK point taken by several posters.

Should have said ......This team is substantially weaker than the relegated

team.The weak players have remained and the better players have left.This leaves us with a weaker team than the one that was

relegated.

That's why we are poor and Cooper has actually got us over achieving according to the Xg stats.

We are in a relegation fight with or without cooper. Should give him until Xmas to get us over achieving further and throw some money at it in January.

 

 

That is quite the take

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

We lost Maddison, Tielemens and Barnes. People don't realise how good the side was. If we would have sacked Rodgers earlier, stayed up and then got a good manager in the summer then we'd have pushed again for top 6 with the squad we had then. This season's squad is not better and we still rely on a 37 year old to score goals ffs.

 

I am not taking last season and comparing it with this season. Last season we were up against the likes of Rotherham and Plymouth. We had one of the best squads in the Championship ever and rightly got promoted. This squad is "capable".... in the Championship.

 

Cooper is the issue, obviously as he is manager, but some of these players are awful and would not get into any other PL team.

So what I mean by squad being better is the overall balance of the team, is better considering the context of this current situation we’re in. That team was imbalanced, lacked motivation, and lacked any kind of cohesion. and let’s not forget got relegated rather pathetically…

 

In terms of better, the dynamics within this squad and the overall balance is better. Under a proper coach, I think a combination in midfield is better, and we’ve actually got two wingers rather than one. I’m certain under a decent coach both Mavadidi and Fatawu can be as productive as Barnes was.  The defence is largely the same with the addition of Okoli, and the strike force is the same with the addition of Edouard. 
 

Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans and Castagne may well be decent individuals, but that season they were largely hideous along with the rest of the team, but again how much of that was down to poor coaching? 
 

We’ve got some different profiles on the team now, who I like and think are decent players, and the overall balance of the team is a lot better than it was, problem is Cooper, he can’t get the balance right because he just hasn’t got a grip on this team. 

[Pliskin]

54 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

OK point taken by several posters.

Should have said ......This team is substantially weaker than the relegated

team.The weak players have remained and the better players have left.This leaves us with a weaker team than the one that was

relegated.

That's why we are poor and Cooper has actually got us over achieving according to the Xg stats.

We are in a relegation fight with or without cooper. Should give him until Xmas to get us over achieving further and throw some money at it in January.

 

 

Really? So why did those “better” players not keep us up? 
 

And I can’t wait for Cooper go get sacked and we instantly improve…..

Edited 30 September 2024 by Pliskin

[winteriscoming]

Is it 1 win in the last 19 pl games for Cooper? I’m confident we’ll beat derby’s record of lowest points. We’ve got 3 points already. 
Get rid now. 

[Vowels]

When you’ve seen and heard it all; feeling shat on,

Croston Fox emerges and seizes the baton,

Is it Alcohol, drugs, world-weary confusion ?

He lunges and grasps! A most bizarre conclusion!

We’ve all been there; we’ve all felt the pain,

Yet don’t surrender our keyboards, we’ll do it again. 
Hide our best players, let’s move the kop,

Why won’t Engelbert buy us from Top?

Kinder surprise thread, that odd tinder thread, 

what’s the next beauty in cropston’s head?

[MattFox]

Potter on MNF tonight 

 

Clearly on the market

[HankMarvin]

2 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Potter on MNF tonight 

 

Clearly on the market

Probably doing it for free, so it doesn’t mess with Chelsea pay off 

[splinterdream]

we had exceptional players when we got relegated, some couldnt care less and likely unfit (tielemens, soumare, evans, thomas, ndidi, bertrand), those that cared, but couldn't perform miracles vardy, maddison, barnes, kdh, ricardo, castagne, Faes, and those that weren't good enough ward, thomas, amartey, Praet, daka, nacho  and then those frozen out vestegaard, soyuncu, Mendy. 

When you look at the squad, it is crazy we were relegated, we were just unbalanced imo and could have easily saved it 

[oxford blue]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Scoring is the only plus we have at the minute so I'm using it.

This despite Cooper's insistence to recruit forwards with PL experience in terms of Cordova Reid and Ayew; both signings reflect their value to Fulham/Palace which is zero or very little. In that respect, both have lived up to my expectations.

[splinterdream]

36 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Really? So why did those “better” players not keep us up? 
 

And I can’t wait for Cooper go get sacked and we instantly improve…..

Barnes was ineffective as he was always marked out of the game as we had no natural right winger to mix it up, or a LB overlapping. 

Maddison came deep to try and make things happen but was on his own as Ndidi, Tielemens and Soumare looked like they were running through treacle.

Vardy, Nacho and Daka just weren't getting the supply or had a crisis of confidence.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

30 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Potter on MNF tonight 

 

Clearly on the market

Obviously realised he isn't getting the England job like everyone thought. 

[Dahnsouff]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

This is bollocks.

 

Last season proves this team can be unified and all come together singing from the same hymn sheet. This squad is better than that team that got relegated in my opinion, it’s got a better balance to it. Our issue lay with the manager, he’s unable to get a grip on the side, and it just clearly isn’t working. This idea that there’s some deeply routed problem was out to bed last season, yes the board has made mistakes, but that’s what they are. Enzo has proven this squad is capable of being moulded with clear and concise leadership, Cooper seems to be incapable of achieving either with us. 

Come on, you cannot be remotely serious. You are just jumping on the out train and grasping at the most ridiculous of branches. It isn’t, not even close.
 

Next stop - Rodgers should be better regarded than Cooper at Leicester.  This train terminates at the next stop, please alight here.

[UniFox21]

4 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Good news

 

We are officially scoring way above expectation based on chances. So when this inevitably stops we are in deep shit. 

 

 

Not a huge shock, very few of our goals are from good play or clear chances. 

JJs takes a huge flick and then the wonderstrike which 9/10 goes wide. 

[Tuna]

2 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

You just know that Wolves will replace O’Neil with Sergio Conceicao and Soton will grab Hjulmand or Schmidt while we faff about with O'Neil