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[Bptiger]

2 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

If I was Ruud I'd be looking to make tactical and formations changes. If we lose but see he's tried to change things, then fine but losing by continually doing the same thing with the same players is just ridiculous. 

 

3-4-2-1/3-4-3/5-2-2-1 depending on whether we're attacking or defending, winning/losing. 

 

                   Hermansen

             Coady Vester Okoli

Woyo                                     Kristiansen

              Soumare     Ndidi 

 

              Buonanotte Bilal

                      Vardy/Daka

 

We don't have any wingers in the squad that are really deserving of starting right now and i feel we'd get more creativity having FB and BEK. Coady would be better in a 3 and I just don't want to see Faes again. Vestergaard is good at passing the ball out from the back and as long as we don't play a high line, he's fine. 

Can’t win with that team ,

                      Mads

         Soup.    Faes.      Okoli

ndidi.           Winks.        Soumare

 

maladivi.         Bilal.        Buonanotta

                       Vardy 

 

we need to attack more so we need players who will create more 

 

 

[PAULCFC]

Setting out at 9 tommorow for a 4 hour drive down home....collecting a few bits from our old house and coming back on Saturday.In between i'm going for a good Bacon and Tomato Crusty Cob(can't get them up here!) A walk round Braggy and then the match.Problem is the match is the one i'm not bothered about!

[fox_favourite]

I'm not sure I can be bothered with the hassle for this one. 

 

It's been a long stressful week and the last thing I fancy doing is going to a game that'll be another loss, likely another game with no goals and going home late. I just haven't got the enthusiasm for it. For me to think that, it takes a lot to say that. 

 

This season has been a hell of a slog, even from past experience. 

[lcfcfoz]

5-3 Foxes

[Raj]

6 hours ago, PAULCFC said:

Setting out at 9 tommorow for a 4 hour drive down home....collecting a few bits from our old house and coming back on Saturday.In between i'm going for a good Bacon and Tomato Crusty Cob(can't get them up here!) A walk round Braggy and then the match.Problem is the match is the one i'm not bothered about!

Enjoy Braggie👍🏾😁

[Raj]

2 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

I'm not sure I can be bothered with the hassle for this one. 

 

It's been a long stressful week and the last thing I fancy doing is going to a game that'll be another loss, likely another game with no goals and going home late. I just haven't got the enthusiasm for it. For me to think that, it takes a lot to say that. 

 

This season has been a hell of a slog, even from past experience. 

Just watch the game with the Benny Hill theme tune in your head.

Works a great for me🤣👍🏾

 

 

Edited 21 February by Raj

[SafewayFox]

6 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Our fans won’t because most of them are morons and think the shit bench or formation shuffle will fix everything and that you bring in a new manager every few months to fix stuff and that any manager would want to come and work here !

Why call out other LCFC fans as morons?

 

Also, that’s a flawed argument about Ayew and his defensive prowess.

 

I can count on one hand how many defensive individual contributions that Ayew has made all season for us, he’s hardly tracking back relentlessly like Abdul last season.
 

Arsenal were bang average at best and whilst Mavs didn’t pull up trees when he came on….I know if I was playing at FB that I’d rather play against Ayew than Mavs (I’m not even a Mavs fan).

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Bad news. I've been told I don't need surgery today. I tried to beg them to make me miss the game tonight but it's no good.

[majaco]

Oh  no.

 

It's match day

[ClaphamFox]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

Why call out other LCFC fans as morons?

 

Also, that’s a flawed argument about Ayew and his defensive prowess.

 

I can count on one hand how many defensive individual contributions that Ayew has made all season for us, he’s hardly tracking back relentlessly like Abdul last season.
 

Arsenal were bang average at best and whilst Mavs didn’t pull up trees when he came on….I know if I was playing at FB that I’d rather play against Ayew than Mavs (I’m not even a Mavs fan).

@StriderHiryu, who tends to analyse these things in some depth, has suggested that Ayew is indeed better defensively than either Buonanotte and Mavididi. Not necessarily because he makes lots tackles or blocks, but because he works harder off the ball and is better aerially, which is very useful when defending set pieces. His ability to hold up the ball also gives us an outlet when we’re under pressure.

 

Presumably Ruud and his staff will have access to tons of data about each player’s performance that we do not. Maybe that data shows that Ayew is one of those players whose work rate helps the team in a way that isn’t always obvious to the naked eye?

 

This is not to say that Ayew should definitely start - we need to win games and that means we need to create more in attack. Personally I’d prefer to see Buonanotte ahead of him tonight. But maybe Ruud’s persistence with Ayew isn’t quite as incomprehensible as some people seem to think? 

Edited 21 February by ClaphamFox

[StanSP]

Woken up with a sneaky feeling we win 2-1.

[Ric Flair]

20 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

@StriderHiryu, who tends to analyse these things in some depth, has suggested that Ayew is indeed better defensively than either Buonanotte and Mavididi. Not necessarily because he makes lots tackles or blocks, but because he works harder off the ball and is better aerially, which is very useful when defending set pieces. His ability to hold up the ball also gives us an outlet when we’re under pressure.

 

Presumably Ruud and his staff will have access to tons of data about each player’s performance that we do not. Maybe that data shows that Ayew is one of those players whose work rate helps the team in a way that isn’t always obvious to the naked eye?

 

This is not to say that Ayew should definitely start - we need to win games and that means we need to create more in attack. Personally I’d prefer to see Buonanotte ahead of him tonight. But maybe Ruud’s persistence with Ayew isn’t quite as incomprehensible as some people seem to think? 

To the naked eye this doesn't appear correct or at the very least obvious. The holding up the ball and winning tactical fouls is the strongest part of his game but even if it's something else defensively that he's supposedly good at than tackles, blocks and clearances then the one major thing it isn't is his ability to track and close down the opposition. He can't get near them and that's a major issue. 

[jayfox26]

8 hours ago, Bptiger said:

Can’t win with that team ,

                      Mads

         Soup.    Faes.      Okoli

ndidi.           Winks.        Soumare

 

maladivi.         Bilal.        Buonanotta

                       Vardy 

 

we need to attack more so we need players who will create more 

 

 

You've said we can't win with the team I've suggested and then you've come up with a formation that doesn't even exist. Where's your full backs/wing backs? That team would get destroyed 

[Foxin_Mad]

2 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

Why call out other LCFC fans as morons?

 

Also, that’s a flawed argument about Ayew and his defensive prowess.

 

I can count on one hand how many defensive individual contributions that Ayew has made all season for us, he’s hardly tracking back relentlessly like Abdul last season.
 

Arsenal were bang average at best and whilst Mavs didn’t pull up trees when he came on….I know if I was playing at FB that I’d rather play against Ayew than Mavs (I’m not even a Mavs fan).

Because some are. Especially the ones who sit passively and applaud Top and Rudkin. 

 

They think the solutions to our issues is to change managers again, then how many months does the new man get before we call for his head, working in a shitshow with no backing, no transfer window.

 

The other solution is bizarre formations and players from the bench who have already proven they aren't not good enough this season thats WHY they are on the bench. Then we  get 'we need to change something', the other view could be that we gain an identity and playing style, we become better, more stable ready to hit the ground running next year instead of yet another random set of players and management styles from the board. Theres not a lot we can do with the season now, I feel Ipswich and Wolves will finish above us as they simply have better squads, thats not the managers fault. 

Edited 21 February by Foxin_Mad

[ClaphamFox]

46 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

To the naked eye this doesn't appear correct or at the very least obvious. The holding up the ball and winning tactical fouls is the strongest part of his game but even if it's something else defensively that he's supposedly good at than tackles, blocks and clearances then the one major thing it isn't is his ability to track and close down the opposition. He can't get near them and that's a major issue. 

I agree that it doesn’t seem very obvious at all, which is why I’ve been in the camp that has wanted Facu to start ahead of him. And I’m still in that camp. But Ruud comes across as a fairly rational person - the type of coach who likely pays attention to data. So I still wonder if there might be some method in his apparent madness. I’d be interested to see any stats showing how many goals we’ve conceded with/without Ayew on the pitch, for example…

Edited 21 February by ClaphamFox

[RonnieTodger]

Our last chance to turn the tide, really

[The boy Linacre]

58 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Woken up with a sneaky feeling we win 2-1.

Thats mathematically impossible we concede 2.2 goals a game (25 games, 55 goals), I keep saying it we walk over the white lines at the start of the game 2-0 down.  So we have to score 3 times to win.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

6 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Our last chance to turn the tide, really

Yep. After today we have an absolutely dreadful run of fixtures that really could result in another 7 straight losses until the Wolves game, which by that point it could be all over. 

[FoxinNotts]

1 minute ago, The boy Linacre said:

Thats mathematically impossible we concede 2.2 goals a game (25 games, 55 goals), I keep saying it we walk over the white lines at the start of the game 2-0 down.  So we have to score 3 times to win.

Think we'll win 3.1-2.2

[TeamRocket]

Forfit and let's go down

[Stuntman_Mike]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Woken up with a sneaky feeling we win 2-1.

Same..

 

Why do we do it to ourselves? 

[Permafrost]

Hopefully we'll see Al Packer upfront tonight.

[Corky]

Only going to applaud the title video. 

 

 

[Twitcher]

Winning this today. Still going down of course, but yes, we win this one. Probably 2-1

[Paninistickers]

38 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I agree that it doesn’t seem very obvious at all, which is why I’ve been in the camp that has wanted Facu to start ahead of him. And I’m still in that camp. But Ruud comes across as a fairly rational person - the type of coach who likely pays attention to data. So I still wonder if there might be some method in his apparent madness. I’d be interested to see any stats showing how many goals we’ve conceded with/without Ayew on the pitch, for example…

I get your logic, but two things. Whatever his data says, remarkably it spews out the same formation for every opponent, regardless of the opponent's strength, weaknesses, formation and personnel. 

 

Second, the focus appears always to benin Ayew. Incredibly, the bigger problems are Vardy and of course, the wonderful BdcR (who touched the ball twice - one of which was a toe poke out for a throw in - in the opening 41 mins v the arse. I don't care how good the stats say he is, one touch every 20.5 mins is unacceptable)