League One - Who manages us?

[Tomo260]

5 minutes ago, Marky mark said:

Amazing how quick teams can announce Theve sacked managers then within a couple of days announced his replacement 

Que 

lcfc 6 weeks since relegation and nothing 

Yeah it's rage inducing how out of touch they are. New manager needs time to sort the ins and outs of squad during pre season. 

Not a good sign of things to come for this season, again 

[filbertway]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Oh god I absolutely don't think he's going to be amazing and solve all our problems. I wouldn't even describe myself as cautiously optimistic anymore. 

 

I just think even a club with as poor footballing intelligence as us must surely now realise Martin is shit. 

 

Yeah I'll give you that, there's huge range of ability between being Elite and thinking Russell Martin is a good option.

 

Just falling in the mid point between those two would be good enough for me right now.

[Marky mark]

Nothing learnt from last season 

Dearnt sack Rowatt as well be over par ( even more ) 

be July 

repeat shit show from last season 

[Ric Flair]

22 minutes ago, Marky mark said:

Nothing learnt from last season 

Dearnt sack Rowatt as well be over par ( even more ) 

be July 

repeat shit show from last season 

Rowett's contract is up so it's not the same as Van Nistelrooy who we ended up sacking before the start of July anyway. We are just so unorganised and everything has to dance to the tune of Aiyawatt.

[Les-TA-Jon]

40 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Nor BDCR. This goes back to Henry Winter's comment about us being a 'manager's club'. We'd have been targeting a certain type of player under Enzo, then Cooper came in a said he wanted a completely different profile of player so we gave him what he wanted. Then we sacked Cooper a few months later and it turned out those players weren't especially suited to the way RVN wanted to play. 

 

It takes years to assemble a squad—managers can be sacked after a run of 5-6 bad results. It doesn't take a genius to understand that constantly changing your transfer policy at the behest of whoever happens to be manager at the time will result in an incoherent mess of a squad. And that's exactly what happened to us.

 

 

And I don't even think it's a 'choice' by the club either - it's simply that there's little to no football based talent and strategy in the structure, above the manager...

[PhillippaT]

8 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

And I don't even think it's a 'choice' by the club either - it's simply that there's little to no football based talent and strategy in the structure, above the manager...

Should we start playing polo instead?

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Oh god I absolutely don't think he's going to be amazing and solve all our problems. I wouldn't even describe myself as cautiously optimistic anymore. 

 

I just think even a club with as poor footballing intelligence as us must surely now realise Martin is shit. 

 

The “style” which gets a lot of flack isn’t the issue. It’s the execution. To play any style, it’s got to suit the players at your disposal. We went through a transition in the PL - Simpson struggled to fit the style but was a very good defensive rb. Wes was as solid a defender as anyone else during that period but wasn’t “ball playing”. We transitioned well during that period albeit we still had Macia and a few Walsh disciples left. 
 

The problem for the last few years has been execution. Enzo the last to get it to work (yeah he had a downturn but over a 46 game period, who wouldn’t) but you look at the execution during that period and it’s chalk and cheese compared to what followed. 
 

The style or the assumption that the style suits Martin will make him a candidate. We can’t get past that. 
 

the problem with Martin as it is with Glover who is there to “execute” the recruitment plan, neither are at all talented in their craft. 
 

Where does the style or the idea of this style being a must come

from ? Rudkin. Top has bought into it but it’s Rudkin leading it. How ? See Leicester city youth teams pre Pearson when led by Beaglehole and Rudkin. Very happy to implement a style not suited to any manager we had during that time. 

Edited 17 hours ago by Mickyblueeyes

[FoxKent_88]

Palace close to making an appointment, utter madness. what's the rush. 

[FoxinNotts]

To be fair, what is the rush! Hear me out.

It's going to be a very very long summer, especially with the World Cup.

We actually don't want to 'rush'. We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

What if we gave it to a guy who is freely available, yet two days later, a more ideal candidate loses his job at another club.

We are in limbo, but we have to time it right. 

[pmcla26]

8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

To be fair, what is the rush! Hear me out.

It's going to be a very very long summer, especially with the World Cup.

We actually don't want to 'rush'. We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

What if we gave it to a guy who is freely available, yet two days later, a more ideal candidate loses his job at another club.

We are in limbo, but we have to time it right. 

I find it highly unlikely that many more suitable managerial candidates or player targets will become available due to the World Cup given we’re in League 1. 

[Craig]

11 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

To be fair, what is the rush! Hear me out.

It's going to be a very very long summer, especially with the World Cup.

We actually don't want to 'rush'. We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

What if we gave it to a guy who is freely available, yet two days later, a more ideal candidate loses his job at another club.

We are in limbo, but we have to time it right. 

People fall into the trap of thinking we are doing this every time  

[GLC]

Bloke has rowed back on his info now. Said we’re looking at other targets. 
 

just gonna find the nearest cliff and jump off 👍😭

[alanf0x]

43 days following relegation...

[Brizzle Fox]

17 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

To be fair, what is the rush! Hear me out.

It's going to be a very very long summer, especially with the World Cup.

We actually don't want to 'rush'. We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

What if we gave it to a guy who is freely available, yet two days later, a more ideal candidate loses his job at another club.

We are in limbo, but we have to time it right. 

This is a very good point, but unfortunately we are taking about City here.

 

Surely it's better to appoint the wrong manager early rather than the wrong manager late, as it's pretty much inevitable  that we won't appoint anyone decent anyway.

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

20 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

To be fair, what is the rush! Hear me out.

It's going to be a very very long summer, especially with the World Cup.

We actually don't want to 'rush'. We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

What if we gave it to a guy who is freely available, yet two days later, a more ideal candidate loses his job at another club.

We are in limbo, but we have to time it right. 

It's the same pattern of inaction that has led to a death spiral with 3 relegations in 4 years.

 

There is a shit load of work to do, and we can't afford to piss around.

 

Other clubs are appointing managers we could have appointed, leaving us with the dregs.

 

Other clubs will be agreeing deals with players their manager wants who we could have signed.

 

We were relegated in April and it's now June. The concept of an appointment being "rushed" is already long gone.

 

Shall I continue? 

Edited 19 hours ago by LeePhilpottsBaldSpot

[FoxinNotts]

3 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

This is a very good point, but unfortunately we are taking about City here.

 

Surely it's better to appoint the wrong manager early rather than the wrong manager late, as it's pretty much inevitable  that we won't appoint anyone decent anyway.

Maybe I didn't articulate what i wanted to properly.

You've done a better job.

It's critical we get the right man first time, which I feel lends itself to both our points

Edited 19 hours ago by FoxinNotts

[FoxinNotts]

2 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

It's the same pattern of inaction that has led to a death spiral with 3 relegations in 4 years.

 

There is a shit load of work to do, and we can't afford to piss around.

 

Other clubs are appointing managers we could have appointed, leaving us with the dregs.

 

Other clubs will be agreeing deals with players their manager wants who we could have signed.

 

We were relegated in April and it's now June. The concept of an appointment being "rushed" is already long gone.

 

Shall I continue? 

Yes please

[Brizzle Fox]

2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Maybe I didn't articulate what it wanted to properly.

You've done a better job.

It's critical we get the right man first time, which I feel lends itself to both our points

Oh totally and I was of course being rather flippant in my response.  This is such a critical hire for us. We can't afford to get it wrong again.

Edited 19 hours ago by Brizzle Fox

[FoxinNotts]

11 minutes ago, Craig said:

People fall into the trap of thinking we are doing this every time  

It's not a trap mate. We really need to get this appointment right.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is we should neither rush or take too long !

[ClaphamFox]

18 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

It's not a trap mate. We really need to get this appointment right.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is we should neither rush or take too long !

Yes, we really do. We’re in an unusually difficult position: on the one hand, we’re a much bigger club than most others in League One and have enjoyed spectacular success in the past decade, so we should in theory be able to attract some strong candidates; on the other hand, our spectacular fall from grace and financial misdemeanors will likely mean those candidates will need a lot of persuading before agreeing to join us. This process will take time.

 

In an ideal world we’d recruit the strongest manager possible today so he can get to work before the transfer window opens. However, if the choice is between rushing to recruit a lower quality candidate or waiting longer to appoint a better one, then it has to be the latter.

[Lesta Legend]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

People fall into the trap of thinking we are doing this every time  

Its the same repeated pattern, why anyone would expect the right appointment to be made at the end of this 'search' for a new manager is beyond me.

 

And yes 43 days after relegation @alanf0x, like @Ric Flair has said,  we do appear to jump to the tune of our revered leader, who jets off and prances around playing Polo and it is as if the club can't make a decision until he is back. He really shouldn't be anywhere near making decisions, he needs to appoint a better set of experts (like his dad) and then prance around all he wants, that way we will make better pragmatic footballing choices and a lot quicker too.

 

But here we are looking like we will be  once again ill prepared and rushing around at the backend of pre Season.

 

We never rush, we're just unorganised and run by amateur's, the slow scatter gun approach is just how we roll and is why we now find ourselves in League One.

[MGLCFC]

51 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

We need to make the right appointment, so timing is everything.

Do you have confidence in Stan and Ollie doing this, as all I can see is 'Another Fine Mess' they've gotten us into.

[MPH]

40 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

It's the same pattern of inaction that has led to a death spiral with 3 relegations in 4 years.

 

There is a shit load of work to do, and we can't afford to piss around.

 

Other clubs are appointing managers we could have appointed, leaving us with the dregs.

 

Other clubs will be agreeing deals with players their manager wants who we could have signed.

 

We were relegated in April and it's now June. The concept of an appointment being "rushed" is already long gone.

 

Shall I continue? 

 

I actually don’t think it’s a lack of action… I think it’s too much delusional thinking and a lack of realism. I think they spend too long chasing unrealistic targets.  If it’s true that Top was contacting Maresca and sounding him out about returning… if he even spent a second following that thought then that’s true David Brent management.

Tough choice, but Maresca chose Manchester City instead of us…

 

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by MPH

[Stavros81]

I can picture it now 

 

Club Statement

 

Leicester City Football Club is delighted to announce the appointment of Gary Rowett as First Team Manager on a two-year contract.

 

Following a review of the club’s ambitions, the Board has been impressed by Gary’s impact since taking charge. His positive results and recent victories have helped convince us that he is the right man to lead Leicester City forward.

 

Gary has shown strong leadership and a clear vision for the future. We believe he can guide this club back to the Championship while building a squad that blends exciting young talent with experienced players.

 

The Board, staff, and players are united behind Gary as we begin this new chapter and work towards bringing success back to Leicester City Football Club.

 

The Board of Directors
Leicester City Football Club

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Stavros81

[kingfox]

47 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Other clubs are appointing managers we could have appointed, leaving us with the dregs.

They are not though are they. Barnsley have gone back to Daniel Stendel, Huddersfield have just given their caretaker the job, Challinor only left Stockport a few days ago. 
 

Of free agents available, let’s be honest, who apart from Challinor is an attractive proposition?
 

If we don’t turn to Challinor, then I dread to think who we end up turning too, the realistic names in the free agent market is unfortunately full of underwhelming dregs.