What grinds my gears...

[Buce]

5 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

It's still a bit raw to see any humour in this.

 

You should get away with a speed awareness course. Costs £90 but you avoid points. 

[Strokes]

4 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

Had to bite my tongue at work earlier when the owner (an incredibly rich man who inherited his wealth - one of his ancestors was a very successful inventor in the industrial chemicals business) and his son (a man who regularly flounces work - that is at the times he's even 'employed' by the company and not on one of his regularly scheduled tantrums with his father where he 'quits' to spend a few weeks sulking and getting drunk in his trailer complex on the family's grounds for which he pays no rent then eventually comes back for more pocket money instead of getting a real job... like he always threatens he'll do before he realises that would mean showing up to work early every morning and staying for more than a couple of hours before disappearing to the local - incidentally this is his first week back from the latest episode) were loudly discussing how every Corbyn supporter wants to usher in Soviet-style communism which will turn England into Venezuela and how that makes them all hypocrites because they all own an iPhone 6s and drink £3.50 Starbucks coffee so they clearly all benefit from the flawless system of capitalism which rewarded these Corbynista's parents who actually work for a living.  I'm not exaggerating anything here: The conversation was literally that stupid and that lacking in self-awareness.

 

Meanwhile I'm still waiting to have a meeting about increasing my pay to a level where I can actually afford to have a social life which was scheduled for last Friday before the owner fvcked off to another part of the country to look at buying a whole new estate with a main house and 3 smaller (but still quite large by normal standards) houses, one for each of his 3 adult children that are still more or less fully dependent on him (a 4th one moved to the USA to do what most of us in the real world have to do and get a job yet she gets stick for being entitled and arrogant when the family talk about her - I've never met the girl so I don't know how unfair that is though I suspect it's fairly off the mark given the context).  This while in my section I work with one of the owner's daughters and the son's girlfriend, both of whom are on vastly better wages than me and who do vastly less work than I do.  Yet I can't even get a conversation about a living wage.  I would have quit already if it weren't for the 4th member of the kitchen team being an incredibly close friend who I would hate to leave in the shit like that but I can't stay loyal to him on this forever if I don't start actually making money come the end of each month.  If it isn't sorted by the time this month's pay comes in I'll have to find somewhere new just to be able to do more than survive with a roof over my head.

 

So please someone tell me again how the Tories are making this country better and fairer for the average Brit.

Given the age of the people in question and the fact we've only been under conservative government for 7 years (5 of which were a coalition). I'm not sure you can blame totally the conservatives for this situation. 

What are you doing about making your situation better?

[Buce]

6 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Given the age of the people in question and the fact we've only been under conservative government for 7 years (5 of which were a coalition). I'm not sure you can blame totally the conservatives for this situation. 

What are you doing about making your situation better?

He didn't mention their ages, just that they are adult. 

 

Or have I missed something?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

In the 1177 pages, has 'Webbo' featured at all? (Sure he'd see it as a badge of honour) 

[Carl the Llama]

2 hours ago, Nalis said:

@Countryfox is right @Carl the Llama , if you dont like it and are only staying because your good friend is there then I think you do need to go. 

 

For all you know he could end up leaving the company through whatever circumstances abruptly and you'll be there thinking 'I should have left ages ago'.

 

If you feel you have to stay out of loyality, maybe you just should let him know you are looking elsewhere as a heads up to put your own mind at ease.

Cheers, I've already looked over a few job websites to see what's going near me and I'm fairly confident that I can find something suitable if I need to move on, the workplace itself is a great place to work so I'd rather not go somewhere else but it's something I'm seriously considering...  Needless to say I'll be applying to new places immediately if the situation hasn't improved by payday.

 

3 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Given the age of the people in question and the fact we've only been under conservative government for 7 years (5 of which were a coalition). I'm not sure you can blame totally the conservatives for this situation. 

What are you doing about making your situation better?

Talking to the guy who took over the role of paymaster when aforementioned son stormed off a couple of weeks ago and arranging the meeting I spoke of, when I asked him about the missed meeting today he told me it's best to sort it out directly with the owner next time he's around so tbc tomorrow hopefully.

 

[Carl the Llama]

5 minutes ago, Buce said:

He didn't mention their ages, just that they are adult. 

 

Or have I missed something?

Ages are around 70 and mid-to-late twenties if that really matters.

[Strokes]

1 minute ago, Buce said:

He didn't mention their ages, just that they are adult. 

 

Or have I missed something?

Adult children puts the father, I would guess fourties at the earliest. Maybe I've misinterpreted but still this isn't unique to this generation or a Tory creation. I've worked in family run businesses and it's the same story even with less wealth and this was under a labour government. 

[Strokes]

4 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Cheers, I've already looked over a few job websites to see what's going near me and I'm fairly confident that I can find something suitable if I need to move on, the workplace itself is a great place to work so I'd rather not go somewhere else but it's something I'm seriously considering...  Needless to say I'll be applying to new places immediately if the situation hasn't improved by payday.

 

Talking to the guy who took over the role of paymaster when aforementioned son stormed off a couple of weeks ago and arranging the meeting I spoke of, when I asked him about the missed meeting today he told me it's best to sort it out directly with the owner next time he's around so tbc tomorrow hopefully.

 

Well best of luck, I hope they give you what you deserve. If they don't value you as you feel appropriate, you should see what else is around. 

[Webbo]

19 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

In the 1177 pages, has 'Webbo' featured at all? (Sure he'd see it as a badge of honour) 

As a subject or a moaner?

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, Buce said:

 

You should get away with a speed awareness course. Costs £90 but you avoid points. 

Where I live that only applies up to 10% over the limit I think.

[matty98]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

Where I live that only applies up to 10% over the limit I think.

You're allowed 10% + 2mph over the limit before getting any penalty.

[theessexfox]

I was accidentally speeding in a driving lesson the other day, my instructor said that if he got done then I'd get the points and pay the fine  surely it's his responsibility?

[Innovindil]

2 minutes ago, theessexfox said:

I was accidentally speeding in a driving lesson the other day, my instructor said that if he got done then I'd get the points and pay the fine  surely it's his responsibility?

No, you are in control of the car, so the blame lies with you.

 

Though, admittedly, a decent instructor wouldn't let you speed. 

[theessexfox]

Just now, Innovindil said:

No, you are in control of the car, so the blame lies with you.

 

Though, admittedly, a decent instructor wouldn't let you speed. 

Haha yeah, I just looked it up, I think that's a bit out really. I'm usually going far too slow, I never even considered I'd be breaking the speed limit, but I guess if I want to be able to drive that's one of the many things I have to be aware of.

[Innovindil]

Just now, theessexfox said:

Haha yeah, I just looked it up, I think that's a bit out really. I'm usually going far too slow, I never even considered I'd be breaking the speed limit, but I guess if I want to be able to drive that's one of the many things I have to be aware of.

Yeah I don't agree with them punishing learners, there's so much to be aware of it's hard to keep track of speed at all times. Luckily, the police seem fairly lax on it as you'd expect, think the last time I heard of a learner driver getting done for speeding was a couple of years ago. Wouldn't worry about it too much 

[ozleicester]

7 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

 Just think though. 

 

The fine means that we can now pay for 3 extra police officers for a whole year !

 

You are over paying them... communist!

[DB11]

10 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

I was driving home from work in a very safe manner down

a long straight road in the middle of nowhere doing 37mph.

I have now been criminalised, so yes **** the police.

No you've not been criminalised 

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, matty98 said:

You're allowed 10% + 2mph over the limit before getting any penalty.

73 in a 60 on a dual carriageway and I wasn't allowed the course, only points and fine.  Might have been less than 15%.

[Mike Oxlong]

7 hours ago, matty98 said:

You're allowed 10% + 2mph over the limit before getting any penalty.

So you can do 68mph on a country road without penalty but if you do 69 they'll have your pants down ?

[Innovindil]

3 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

So you can do 68mph on a country road without penalty but if you do 69 they'll have your pants down ?

Yup. Sounds ridiculous but there has to be a line somewhere. 

[Buce]

12 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

So you can do 68mph on a country road without penalty but if you do 69 they'll have your pants down ?

 

No, the penalty kicks in at 68 mph. 

 

I was busted for doing 35 in a 30 - I'd have been ok at 34. 

[Jattdogg]

I got busted on the way home from work yesterday going 90km/h in  60km/h zone. In a long straight stretch of farm land that was pretty dead.

 

Was silent, didnt say much to the officer other then be polite whn he asked if i knew i had been speeding and where i was headed.

"Yes sir. Umm to pickup my kids from daycare". Then handed him my license and registration papers

 

Came back said 3 points and $225 fine but because i have such an excellent driving record he reduced it to 0 points and $52 fine.

 

Yes officer sir, thank you and **** off. Please come to my house and pull over the 90% of cars that dont stop at the stop sign (out front) and drive through it almost killing my kids  and pedistrians on the daily.  Nope pull me over in no mans land. Great policing!

 

Having said that i had no complaints as i knew i was speeding so is what it is.

[AKCJ]

8 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

I got busted on the way home from work yesterday going 90km/h in  60km/h zone. In a long straight stretch of farm land that was pretty dead.

 

Was silent, didnt say much to the officer other then be polite whn he asked if i knew i had been speeding and where i was headed.

"Yes sir. Umm to pickup my kids from daycare". Then handed him my license and registration papers

 

Came back said 3 points and $225 fine but because i have such an excellent driving record he reduced it to 0 points and $52 fine.

 

Yes officer sir, thank you and **** off. Please come to my house and pull over the 90% of cars that dont stop at the stop sign (out front) and drive through it almost killing my kids  and pedistrians on the daily.  Nope pull me over in no mans land. Great policing!

 

Having said that i had no complaints as i knew i was speeding so is what it is.

That would do the opposite of grind my gears.

 

90 in a 60 zone, he could have taken you to the cleaners.

[kingcarr21]

2 hours ago, Buce said:

 

No, the penalty kicks in at 68 mph. 

 

I was busted for doing 35 in a 30 - I'd have been ok at 34. 

My first ever speeding fine was 34 in a 30.

 

This 10% thing is down to the cops discretion. You're not 'allowed' to go say 68 in a 60.

 

They have this 10% thing mainly for speed cameras. So as people don't go down the road of 'the camera isn't calibrated correctly' if you are caught doing 31 in a 30. It gives the camera some leeway. It is also there in case your speed dial is also not calibrated perfectly. It wouldn't be fair if your speed dial said you were doing 30 when in fact you were doing 31.

 

 So if you are caught doing over 10% then even a small calibration deviation in the camera and Speed dial wont make a difference. You are well over the speed limit.

 

So the system is abused and people use the 10% rule but if a cop wanted to do you for speeding say 64 in a 60 they can do but you can then go down the road of calibration deviations in both camera and speed dial and probably have the speed fine dropped.

 

That's what i've been told anyway.

 

 

[Jattdogg]

9 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

That would do the opposite of grind my gears.

 

90 in a 60 zone, he could have taken you to the cleaners.

Its like the thing they do here in ontario. Happened to me 2 other times  since i started driving 20+ years ago.

 

Of course i was happy about that part but the dangerous driving i see outfront of my house (live at a intersection in a suburban community) is gross. Yes speeding is bad and i got fined for it but never do these tossers come and pull people over even if you call to complain.

 

My 4 year old son is obsessed with police cars and fire trucks. I told hom daddy got a ticket for speeding. He wasnt impressed with daddy

Edited 23 June 2017 by Jattdogg