Guest ttfn Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 I've bitten my tongue for a while, but I'm just going to post this. I'm delighted to read that you're debt-free and possessing your own ground. Now you're on such a financially stable platform, you now need to to the right thing: You need to repay EVERY individual, organisation group and company that you defrauded when you oh-so-conveniently wiped your debts off a few years ago. Even the Football League, who are notoriously stagnant recognised what an outrageous act of cheating this was, and introduced a (lame) penalty of 10 points to try & deter future cheating. "**** you and everyone else, **** your businesses and charities, we're going to continue to pay for a team we KNOWINGLY assembled whilst KNOWINGLY being unable to afford it, and then when the bills arrive we'll just **** them off." We sold our assets to avoid such a scenario. You wiped out innocent suppliers and companies, individuals and charities. We were relegated. Please, please: don't ever come on a forum near me and bleat about how wonderful your finances are. All right. - What a bitch. Must be that time of the month. It wasn't the team we couldn't afford, it was the stadium. It wasn't even particularly poor financial management either. If ONDigital hadn't gone kaput we may well have been ok. It's difficult to know what more you can do than budget based on contracted revenues. I'm sure that's what the local businesses we owed money to were doing. Unfortunately we were hit by the perfect storm of relegation, the new stadium and the ONDigital fiasco. I must say though that I do share some of the unease about how local businesses and St Johns Ambulance remain out of pocket whilst we've subsequently spunked millions on wages.
Babylon Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 You can almost touch his pain ha ha..I'll be banned soon enough I'd imagine, they don't like it up'em.
Tielemans63 Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 He' s sort of got a point though hasn't he? We did get away with murder back then. No need to have a cry about it though.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 He has a point, but I don't know what he expects Babs to do about it.
bovril Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 We did get away with murder considering we kept some of our high earners and got promoted the same season. It still causes resentment amongst a lot of opposition teams and fans, which is understandable.
sylofox Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 I think they have deleted half my posts about their owner... Paranoid!!! Right, time to put a forest badge in my twitter avatar and go tell fawaz he's a crook and that he should hang his head in shame and return to India ( yes I know, but it's part of the ignorant forest fan act). Why don't you just fvck off back to your own forum. The one you spent all afternoon on lol
VLC86 Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 He' s sort of got a point though hasn't he? We did get away with murder back then. No need to have a cry about it though. The thing is for Forest fans this is still the present, as are the European cup wins and the success bless them.
sdb Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Permanent? Not for me. Would be a good loan but not a Prem player which is ultimately our goal. Still, NP knows best.
Babylon Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 We did get away with murder considering we kept some of our high earners and got promoted the same season. It still causes resentment amongst a lot of opposition teams and fans, which is understandable. Well it would when the actual facts were never reported. We sold players, we accepted bids, we agreed deals with creditors... Hall rendered all that pointless.
Fox in the North Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 It amazes me how all this resentment has just happened to come to the boil after 10 years. A lot of stuff has happened since then, the club has even gotten relegated to League 1, yet now they bring it up just because we're doing well? This stuff wasn't even mentioned last year when we got to the play offs. Think they need to put their tampons back in.
AS78UK Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 If we get him, Moore will go to Fulham methinks. It's a good replacement in a situation that it is not ideal and we'll make money. Sad but meh. Worried this might be true...
Langston Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Forest have the biggest collective amount of sand in their vaginas, don't they? Even more than Watford and we all know what ****boys they are.
Corky Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Well it would when the actual facts were never reported. We sold players, we accepted bids, we agreed deals with creditors... Hall rendered all that pointless. Wasn't it all in place to avoid administration before Hall wanted money for Wise? I'm sure someone on here (davieG posibly) outlined it all.
Fox92 Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 If we get him, Moore will go to Fulham methinks. It's a good replacement in a situation that it is not ideal and we'll make money. Sad but meh. I don't think Moore will go if we get Hobbs. Two things. Nige will see Moore as a vital player, and want him to progress here no doubt. Moore surely can't see Fulham (in a relegation battle) a step forward at the minute when you consider our league position and form. If we were mid table or bottom half then things maybe different. I'd welcome Hobbs back. Also note that St Ledger will leave when his contract expires, and I'm guessing Whitbread will as well. That's two defenders gone already without even considering Wasl's contract is up as well.
Wink Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Those complaining that potentially signing Hobbs is unfair on Liam Moore are complete idiots!! As it stands I believe we have 4 fully fit defenders (5 if you include Schlupp). So for one, if any of those defenders get injured tonight or Saturday then were in serious trouble. Then there's the issue of people thinking Moore has a god given right to be first choice because he has played well this season. Is it unfair on Chris Wood that he lost his place on the bench on Saturday because we've signed Phillips? It's called competition for places. If Moore is going to the top (whether it's with us or someone else) like some people think then he will be challenging better players than Jack Hobbs for a place in the team. If he's good enough, he will get back in the team! Simple as that, it's down to the player to prove to the manager he should be starting. Is it unfair that Andy King can't get a look in now because Matty James and Danny Drinkwater are playing well? Grow up FFS!! It's about the team not just individuals!!
jonah Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Maybe..just maybe if forest didnt mention finances in just about ever single thing they write about us then we wouldnt have to keep putting them right about it.????? An our poor delude chap wouldnt have to worry about whose posting on his forum
Carl the Llama Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 I don't think Moore will go if we get Hobbs. Two things. Nige will see Moore as a vital player, and want him to progress here no doubt. Moore surely can't see Fulham (in a relegation battle) a step forward at the minute when you consider our league position and form. If we were mid table or bottom half then things maybe different. If we were mid table or bottom half, they wouldn't be sniffing around our players.
Nick Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 I don't think Moore will go if we get Hobbs. Two things. Nige will see Moore as a vital player, and want him to progress here no doubt. Moore surely can't see Fulham (in a relegation battle) a step forward at the minute when you consider our league position and form. If we were mid table or bottom half then things maybe different. I'd welcome Hobbs back. Also note that St Ledger will leave when his contract expires, and I'm guessing Whitbread will as well. That's two defenders gone already without even considering Wasl's contract is up as well. Hope you're right. I do have my doubts that 5/6 million for the club and the draw of London and bigger wages might be a bit too much for young Liam to take a step back from. Hope I'm wrong.
Master Fox Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39417&page=99 I just love the bit when they finally give up: "Haven't you had enough for today lad. We don't give a shit. Sod off to your own forum." Also reading the start of their 100 page thread and comparing their opinions at the end is such a treat. L O L Their main forum is called "Forest Banter". What do they expect? They really are a laughing stock.
Socks Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 If he dont sign werw gonna look bigger twats tthan Florist!
smudger63 Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Well it would when the actual facts were never reported. We sold players, we accepted bids, we agreed deals with creditors... Hall rendered all that pointless. Yep, exactly right. The facts are, that we did indeed agree a deal with all our creditors except a certain agent, who then served a winding up order on us, which left the club with no option but to apply to go into administration. We also sold Gary Rowatt, Robbie Savage and our most promising youngster Matt Piper, so it wasn`t like we were not selling players we would rather keep hold of. In fact, Every player was made available for transfer, and Muzzy had the chance to move to Villa and Middlesbrough but turned them down. The only players we signed all season, were Nicky Summerbee and Billy McKinlay, who were free agents and actually started the season playing for nothing! Also, if the 10 points for going into administration had been in force at the time, we would have still gone up, because we were more than 10 points ahead of the 3rd placed team. What other fans also never seem to remember, is that Ipswich went into administration later the same season, and they never seem to get any stick. Ironically the Bolton chairman at the time, one Phil Gartside, said that we should have been demoted to the bottom tier of english football, because we didn`t manage our finances correctly. Its ironic because the same chairman of Bolton was bleating on a few weeks back, about how bad their debt is, and how it`s really difficult for teams coming down from a few years in the premiership, to get their finances in order, and has been wanting a premier league 2 to be formed for a number of years now. Well welcome to the world we were in Mr Gartsde!
Fox in the North Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 "I've said this once before but being preached to by a Leicester supporter about good financial houskeeping, financial fair play and paying your debts is somewhat akin to being lectured on sobriety and monogamy by a drunk staggering out of the brothel whilst trying to do up his flies." And being preached to by Forest fans about how many trophies they've won isn't equally as laughable
Fox92 Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 If we were mid table or bottom half, they wouldn't be sniffing around our players. Not necessarily.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 28 January 2014 Posted 28 January 2014 Ian: Anything you can tell us on that? Nigel: Nope.
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