Aus Fox Posted 27 September 2016 Posted 27 September 2016 3 minutes ago, Callabinho said: Don't get the Kasper love. He is so horribly overrated it's untrue, comes out flapping at everything and a more clinical strike force would have beaten him today. He's far too rash. Really do not rate him. Really don't get how you cannot rate him. Is easily our number 1. Look at the pride in his face during the Champions League song.
sylofox Posted 27 September 2016 Posted 27 September 2016 5 minutes ago, Callabinho said: Don't get the Kasper love. He is so horribly overrated it's untrue, comes out flapping at everything and a more clinical strike force would have beaten him today. He's far too rash. Really do not rate him. Not saying he is a better keeper but he organise our defence. So we look better always said Wes don't. Hugt tries but Wes is captain and has little voice. Kasper is a mouth piece and I don't think we would have suffered as bad at ot with Kasper. Wes is a good player but needs to boss it at the back. Sadly for me he don't.
sylofox Posted 27 September 2016 Posted 27 September 2016 Intact I think Wes would be a better player if he was not captain.
funkyrobot Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 There shouldn't be any doubt after the WBA match. Kasper is by far the better keeper. Zieler needs to focus more on competing for the reserve spot with Hamer. He lacks presence, doesn't come out for crosses, lacks urgency and his foot is the equivalent of a lob wedge when kicking.
Fox92 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 1 minute ago, funkyrobot said: There shouldn't be any doubt after the WBA match. Kasper is by far the better keeper. Zieler needs to focus more on competing for the reserve spot with Hamer. He lacks presence, doesn't come out for crosses, lacks urgency and his foot is the equivalent of a lob wedge when kicking. Good save first minute though from Phillips or else it's 0-1 early on.
Karljohn Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Zieler looks very slow in coming off his line.
Koke Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Schmeichel is obviously the better keeper but some of you needs to get off Zieler back. He wasn't at fault for either goal today. Yeah he let 4 in at Old Trafford but Schmeichel also let 4 in at Anfield, and was at fault for at least one Liverpool goal. Zieler is a good Premier League keeper. Put some respeck on his name.
theessexfox Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Schmeichel would've cleaned up for the second goal.
Aus Fox Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 The second goal was Drinkwaters fault but Zieler should have been off his line and cleared. no question if Kasper was in goal that second doesn't happen. Realky not impressed with Zieler today.
filbertway Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I think he's a victim of not being Schmiechel at the minute. He's a good keeper and we'll see him improve as he gets more confidence. He seems a little reserved which is taking away from his performance. Incredible finger tip save from Phillips early one, but seemed overly cautious when having to come out and confront a player. He made it too easy for Phillips to score the winner. I'm hoping that's just nerves rather than his usual way of dealing with one on ones.
funkyrobot Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 3 minutes ago, Koke said: Schmeichel is obviously the better keeper but some of you needs to get off Zieler back. He wasn't at fault for either goal today. Yeah he let 4 in at Old Trafford but Schmeichel also let 4 in at Anfield, and was at fault for at least one Liverpool goal. Zieler is a good Premier League keeper. Put some respeck on his name. That's not been backed up by any performance I've seen as of yet. Looks like a competent reserve, no better than benny Hamer.
Anish Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Got to agree with the comments here about not coming out or making himself big for the second goal. He dived at Phillips and made it much easier than it should've been to score - Schmeichel would've been out quicker and made himself bigger. He doesn't fill me with much confidence on today's performance.
bigDfox33 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Zeiler is pants Im not confident in him one bit He made a few mistakes today and looked incompetent, he should of came out to clear that ball I know kasper would have!
Callabinho Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Kasper would have definitely saved Phillips goal. I thought Zieler was initially better than Kasper, but he was poor today he seems a bit of a shrinking violet, how we didn't concede from the corners was beyond me, he didn't move an inch. He was poor today unfortunately and is nothing more than a back up.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I think the shot for their second brushes his shoulder, if he saves it he's a hero. Margins are that tight. My first thought when it happened though was should the keeper have come out? On the replay I'm not so sure, but that could have been because of his starting position being too deep? It's a tough one to judge.
funkyrobot Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I'd seriously take another look at Hamer whilst Kasper is out. His weakness was his kicking but Zieler doesn't seem to be any better and I don't see much else between them.
Jimmy Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Kasper wouldn't have done anything with either goal, but anything to blame someone other than Drinkwater for some it seems
Old Fox Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 56 minutes ago, funkyrobot said: That's not been backed up by any performance I've seen as of yet. Looks like a competent reserve, no better than benny Hamer. Completely agree......he's average at best but Kasper is top drawer...evidenced even more again tonight!
Wymsey Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Main concern with Zieler is he's slow when making decisions, narrowly avoiding embarrassment in the process.
funkyrobot Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 This season Schmeichel has been our best player. Maybe that says more about how we are playing at the moment. Without him we also haven't got a motivator on the pitch. We desperately need him back asap.
foxy boxing Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 stating the obvious that Kasper is a massive loss and Ron-Robert is not in the same league as him certainly not as dominant in the penalty area and his distribution is no where near as good.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Don't even get why this is a discussion. Zieler, as a back up keeper (and that's what he is at this club and it's been made quite clear) is about as good as you are going to get and is more than fine. You aint going to get this generations Claudio Taffareal jogging off the bench when your no.1 gets injured. I find the suggestion Kasper would of, without question, saved that one on one, pretty hilarious as well, you can't blame Zieler for either goals on Sunday. Second was Drinkwaters fault no one else's, you can even lip read him saying as much after the game to some of the players.
LAprice_ Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Imagine going from being Germany's third choice to people wanting him to be third choice behind BEN HAMER. I give up.
Guest Papasmurf Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Pure comedy that some people think Hamer is better than somebody who has been capped by Germany.
lgfualol Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 26 minutes ago, Papasmurf said: Pure comedy that some people think Hamer is better than somebody who has been capped by Germany. Perfect case of a player suddenly being rated when he doesn't play - and in Hamer's case, he never plays for a reason. Schmeichel will come back, concede a few and the same people will be suggesting Zieler play.
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