Dames Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 9 hours ago, Moksky said: Whoever it is, please drop Rooney In all honesty I believe he actually selects the team as it is especially after Big Sams comments from the Slovakia game.
foxy boxing Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 the f.a would like arsene I think but I don't think he would want it, and the fans certainly would not like it I think. it is such a poisoned chalice that whoever it is it doesn't really matter unless their are major changes(like seismic) at the f.a
Kilworthfox Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 If Ferguson could be tempted, as in reality it's not a full time job, he would be the outstanding candidate. He would command the respect of the players instantly, he would also pick the team based on best formations and best players in form, as everyone should, but never do, to the frustration of the Fans and Media. If not, Pardew is probably next in line, especially considering he was the candidate last standing, until Sam got offered the job just a few months ago. I'm not convinced by Howe, nothing against him, but what has he done that Pearson, Dyche et al have not... The issue that I have with the F.A and their policy of hiring the topman, is their insistence on an England DNA, its all a load of balls in my opinion! We have a DNA, its called 4-4-2, and the world seems to be convinced that 3 in the middle is progress, well LCFC proved last season that is not the case. I'm not suggesting we need to play 4-4-2 every time, but surely we must realise that this spin is just that, and it doesn't win matches... Keep the faith x x x
The Horse's Mouth Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 if it's pardew or bruce im defecting to saudi arabia
Fox92 Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 41 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: if it's pardew or bruce im defecting to saudi arabia There literally aren't any other English managers that have achieved what Bruce and Pardew have though. I like Howe but other than keeping Bournemouth up he's achieved nothing more than the likes of Dyche. At least Bruce and Pardew have kept teams in the top flight consistently and dragged them to FA Cup finals. I can't see either of them being a type the FA would go for though. They both seem outspoken, especially Pardew.
Samilktray Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Pardew & Bruce have achieved the square root of fvck all in truth. Getting to and losing a FA Cup Final isn't anything to brag about and really isn't an achievement.
purpleronnie Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Doesn't really matter though, we've tried so many different types of managers all have failed. At this stage I really couldn't careless.
Beliall Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Sent my application in. I won the south african 2nd division with africa all stars, I can get us to the world cup
MPH Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 13 hours ago, Mee-9 said: Give it Giggsy until the end of the season. Haha
MPH Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 They recently interviewed a few people so I expect a swift appointment... I'd be surprised if it isn't Steve Bruce!
CosbehFox Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 It won't be quick. Southgate will have the next four matches and then the FA are hoping that a world class manager comes available in the Summer.
Kitchandro Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 It's hilarious when pundits say 'anyone would want the job'. Maybe Englishmen would, but no managers who are at the top of their careers would take it. All English managers are unproven at best and mostly shit. It will probably be Southgate who's barely even a manager let alone a successful one.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 11 minutes ago, Fox92 said: There literally aren't any other English managers that have achieved what Bruce and Pardew have though. I like Howe but other than keeping Bournemouth up he's achieved nothing more than the likes of Dyche. At least Bruce and Pardew have kept teams in the top flight consistently and dragged them to FA Cup finals. I can't see either of them being a type the FA would go for though. They both seem outspoken, especially Pardew. Think we can write pardew off anyway as there's no way he's not implicated, bruce has had like 3 relegations behind him. I feel like if we're employing the likes of Bruce and Hodgson can we seriously be angry when we're knocked out of the final 16? if this is the calibre of managers we're going for then realistically getting out of the group stages such be the expectation
RastaDog Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Does England want a world class manager? I assume that to mean foreign (though, admittedly, not necessarily). Personally, at the moment, I think they need someone that's come up through English football. Someone that the players can relate to and/or respect. And I think they need a 'route and branch' clear out of players too. New squad, new manager, start again. English rugby did it and, okay, it wasn't as successful as had been hoped but at least it was a reboot. I think that's what football needs. How that all fits in to the FA's plans (and funding?), I don't know. I suspect not at all!
AyewJoking Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 never wanted big fat sam so im really really happy he has disgraced himself. i would expect steve bruce to get the nod and carry on the tradition of having a list of managers and gradually working our way down the list after the one before him fails. there is no one id be genuinely enthusiastic about getting the job, maybe mourinho and thats just for the entertainment factor of him falling out with the fa. i wouldnt even care if it was hoddle
Detroit Blues Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Why is it important in England to have an English manager? The pool of available candidates is so limited, that you're only scraping the bottom of the barrel. Obviously english managers should be considered, but outside options shouldn't be off the table. I think Slaven Bilić would be a good option. I like what he's done at West Ham, and he has previous experience managing at the national team level. He's young, somewhat charasmatic, and he has a good grasp of the premier league players that would be available for him to call on. He also seems like a real option, whereas Arsene Wegner is more of a pipe dream.
Leicesterpool Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 10 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Won't be Steve Bruce to similar to SamI reckon Bruce will be one of the mangers implemented in the other scandal ( just my thoughts not based on any facts). Rafa Would be the the ideal choice for me and the only realistic option who would both do the job and could handle the big personalities. Yeah I liked the idea of Rafa too but typically too many people around the FA have got this obsession of the England manager being English.
fuchsntf Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Only one choice knows our game backwards, the most obvious, positive cosequences, and time is right...Mr Franglais only foreigner who floats my boat, and he aint that foreign. Knows our game inside out, wouldnt be bothered what the media thinks or wants. Be his own man, more than sam ever was. Hes served his time, its in the stars for him.. Mr Franglais...Mr A.Wenger...yyyyyaaaaaa. I actually think he would love the chance..
deejdeej Posted 28 September 2016 Posted 28 September 2016 Would love it to be Bielsa, but the FA wouldn't touch him with a barge pole, the blokes nuts! Superb manager though.
StriderHiryu Posted 29 September 2016 Posted 29 September 2016 I think the Southgate till the end of season followed by Wenger appointment will be how this plays out. Wenger might have under-performed for Arsenal in the last 10 or so years but credit where it's due - he completely transformed that club's ethos and style of play and has a great record of buying and giving English players a chance. I'm not sure he would do well with our current hapless batch (can anyone?) but if he was given full remit to change the way we are structured from top-to-bottom it could lead to long-term results. Look at Germany who did this many years ago (changing from an attritional side to one that are technically brilliant) or Belgium who made a philosophy of not caring about results for teams under 23 and making every single age bracket play 4-3-3 so everyone was familiar with the system. IMO that's the sort of thinking we need as we've been perennial under achievers for years.
Samilktray Posted 29 September 2016 Posted 29 September 2016 Just give it Dave Beckham so at least we have someone we like. Who cares about results at this point.
Wymsey Posted 29 September 2016 Posted 29 September 2016 Paul Clement. Assist at a top side already, but can also try and put that use into managing a under-achieving national side imo.
Jon the Hat Posted 29 September 2016 Posted 29 September 2016 24 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Paul Clement. Assist at a top side already, but can also try and put that use into managing a under-achieving national side imo. I am warming to this idea. Hell, let someone else pick the squad even, put a panel together, and make Clement head coach, doing his best with the players he has.
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