Kapustka

[Babylon]

29 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Does any other of the youth team play international senior football?

Several have yes, or did until being loaned out and sold for not being good enough.

[foxy boxing]

so with our top scout Steve Walsh gone we have gone from sending people to look and watch players around Europe and see who would fit perfectly into our system and team to watching players on video and then deciding after watching five minutes of footage presumably which would have been highlights of their best plays we have decided to sign these players. unbelievable. can we please get a top scouting system up and running again  surely if the scouts left us we would still have the system in place so that the scouts we brought in could fit into place or is that just too simplistic

[foxes21]

should have promoted Walsh to Director of Football and kicked Rudkin out the door.

[KingKante]

I think Walsh left for family reasons not £££

[Babylon]

8 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

so with our top scout Steve Walsh gone we have gone from sending people to look and watch players around Europe and see who would fit perfectly into our system and team to watching players on video and then deciding after watching five minutes of footage presumably which would have been highlights of their best plays we have decided to sign these players. unbelievable. can we please get a top scouting system up and running again  surely if the scouts left us we would still have the system in place so that the scouts we brought in could fit into place or is that just too simplistic

Writing was on the wall the minute Ranieri walked in and wanted Mendy instead of Kante.

 

Clearly nobody scouted bloody Benny properly, nothing stood out in his stats, he'd had an average career and we decided he was worth 10 times more than he was bought for after an average year. I'm not going to say what I think about that transfer on here as people might be watching. But something stinks about it.

 

We've gone back to the days of Sven buying players recommended by agents, because they once played for him and because they once had a good game against him.

[foxes21]

wrong thread

 

[sylofox]

14 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

Lets be honest Slimani & Musa were both signed to play behind Vardy in the Okazaki role, but Shinji is out performing both.

 

We need to give both Slimani/Musa time to understand this position. For me, Vardy is still vital to the way we play even if teams are sitting deep. Mainly because his movement worries defenders, which I'm sure he'll improve on now we have a less congested fixture list. Also, once we take the lead in a game I think that's when you'll see Vardy shine. Teams will have to open up and push for a goal which will leave us space to attack.

Vardy vital to the way we play? 5 touches no shots.

 

Not all down to him because we are not creating and giving him service. But a div1 striker could manage those stats.

 

Before Vardy is vital to the way we play again some of our players need to start playing for the team. Also putting in a propper shift.

[foxile5]

2 hours ago, Shaneb said:

Maybe he was attempting to do that, then the third time he scores low

 

....he was attempting to miss 2 chances so he could score with his 3rd?

 

I understand the irrationality of football fans, and that one man's Bednar might be another's Ibrahimovic, I understand that English football fans are drawn to the allure of a foreigner, signed for a record fee, on deadline day, via means of a tribunal. I get all of that. But to suggest that this strikers plan was to INTENTIONALLY miss 2 one on ones as some form of cerebral ploy...that is the stupidest defense of a player I have EVER seen.

 

Go to bed.

[desertfox2]

4 hours ago, m4DD0gg said:

Mixed results, its hard to tell which were direct CR signings as Slimani and perhaps even Mendy were in the pipeline long before Walsh left.

 

Walsh signings have not always worked either.

True but Most of his did. Man Utd had a lot of duds under Ferguson but the key was that he got way more right than he did wrong. Walsh Ditto his strike rate is pretty good usually. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, foxile5 said:

 

....he was attempting to miss 2 chances so he could score with his 3rd?

 

I understand the irrationality of football fans, and that one man's Bednar might be another's Ibrahimovic, I understand that English football fans are drawn to the allure of a foreigner, signed for a record fee, on deadline day, via means of a tribunal. I get all of that. But to suggest that this strikers plan was to INTENTIONALLY miss 2 one on ones as some form of cerebral ploy...that is the stupidest defense of a player I have EVER seen.

 

Go to bed.

It was sarcasm bro. 

 

I think Kramaric was a player worth keeping and genuinely like him as a player. I think he would offer something good this season, playing in Shinji's position. Maybe he couldn't score but he was good on the ball.

[Jimmy]

18 hours ago, Bert said:

This is what happens when Jon Rudkin is your director of football. 

 

Not holding out much hope for the academy either now they've appointed one of the education guys as academy director. 

if Walsh wanted a DoF role why the hell didn't we get rid of Rudkin and promote Walsh

[suffolk fox]

All this nonsense on here about Walsh.  He left purely to be closer to family.  He has family connections in Liverpool.  Both he and Shakespeare were given lucrative contracts after we won the premiership so to suggest things like we should have given him a director of football role etc is quite frankly ridiculous.

[suffolk fox]

Here we go again, some posters on here criticising buying of players.  Sven was not responsible for transfers to and from the club when he was here.  Ranieri now being criticised even though he too has alluded to the fact he has nothing to do with transfers.  What, will it take to convince some?

 

Being honest, totally unfair to judge Mendy at all.  This chap has hardly played for us this season, so to compare him to Kante is again unfair?  I would like to see him play six games before I form any opinion of Mendy.

 

At this moment in time , he can't play one game let alone six.

 

Nobody really knows what goes on behind the scenes at our great club all this assuming makes an ass out of u and me.

[goose2010]

So apparently he only cost us an initial fee of £2mill raising to a max of £5 mill still I guess doesn't explain why he hasn't had a sniff yet 

[Wymsey]

42 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

So apparently he only cost us an initial fee of £2mill raising to a max of £5 mill still I guess doesn't explain why he hasn't had a sniff yet 

Some sources like HTC etc have stated it was £7.50 uo-front straightaway, though I personally believe it was what you're saying considering his age and it depends how well he does here (whenever he has an opportunity).

[FireFox]

8 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

I'm sure Walsh played a part in Amartey, Musa and Hernandez signings. 

 

Good signings = Walsh signings

Bad signings = Claudio signings

 

Inler is constantly considered a Claudio signing on here... even though it is on the record that the scouting team were interested in him.

 

Kante wouldn't sign when we didn't have a manager. He only signed when we got Claudio, even if Claudio was hesitant about signing him. So surely signing him has to be partly attributed to Claudio. We've wanted Slimani for years, but he signed when Walsh was gone.. so does that mean he isn't a Walsh signing? Gray we wanted after the pre-season friendly, was it Walsh or Claudio or someone else who was impressed? Amartey we wanted that summer too IIRC but couldn't because of work permit issues, he had probably been scouted by our team for a season or so. Musa we wanted in January, probably had been scouted for a while. Hernandez we had wrapped up in like March or April, before Everton ever inquired about Walsh.

 

Most signings cannot be attributed to one person, and both Walsh and Claudio probably had to sign off on most of them. Everyone just likes to think of Walsh as someone who did no wrong at our club and made perfect signings like Vardy and Mahrez and Kante.

 

Benalouane and Kapustka are the only players we know are pretty much 100% Claudio signings. Mendy probably too, but I don't think that that's public record.

[WigstonWanderer]

2 hours ago, goose2010 said:

So apparently he only cost us an initial fee of £2mill raising to a max of £5 mill still I guess doesn't explain why he hasn't had a sniff yet 

It might do if the triggers for extra payments are milestones like appearances from the bench, starts in the PL, etc. The club might be hedging their bets for now.

[Ashley]

Everton paid a lot of money for Mr Walsh by the way.

[crazyleicester]

Why do we always get stuck in the past?! Walsh, Kante who gives a shite?! Move on!

 

As for Kapustka, he seems like he can pass a ball. Id like to see him given a crack in a midfield 3 now we are missing DD. He seems to be more of a playmaker than a winger anyway and one thing we lack in the centre of midfield is creativity. Vardy the poor sod is made to look crap because no one is putting him through anymore! Id love a 532 with three central mids, two wing backs and some support in central defence for the big two.

 

Time to unleash the Kap!!

[Dan]

21 hours ago, Bert said:

This is what happens when Jon Rudkin is your director of football. 

 

Not holding out much hope for the academy either now they've appointed one of the education guys as academy director. 

Absolutely laughable if this is true.

[lgfualol]

21 hours ago, Bert said:

This is what happens when Jon Rudkin is your director of football. 

 

Not holding out much hope for the academy either now they've appointed one of the education guys as academy director. 

Who's been appointed?

[Webbo]

Wasn't Steve Walsh a teacher at some point? Being promoted from the education bit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[ian_marshall]

1 hour ago, FireFox said:

 

Good signings = Walsh signings

Bad signings = Claudio signings

 

Inler is constantly considered a Claudio signing on here... even though it is on the record that the scouting team were interested in him.

 

Kante wouldn't sign when we didn't have a manager. He only signed when we got Claudio, even if Claudio was hesitant about signing him. So surely signing him has to be partly attributed to Claudio. We've wanted Slimani for years, but he signed when Walsh was gone.. so does that mean he isn't a Walsh signing? Gray we wanted after the pre-season friendly, was it Walsh or Claudio or someone else who was impressed? Amartey we wanted that summer too IIRC but couldn't because of work permit issues, he had probably been scouted by our team for a season or so. Musa we wanted in January, probably had been scouted for a while. Hernandez we had wrapped up in like March or April, before Everton ever inquired about Walsh.

 

Most signings cannot be attributed to one person, and both Walsh and Claudio probably had to sign off on most of them. Everyone just likes to think of Walsh as someone who did no wrong at our club and made perfect signings like Vardy and Mahrez and Kante.

 

Benalouane and Kapustka are the only players we know are pretty much 100% Claudio signings. Mendy probably too, but I don't think that that's public record.

Excellent post, I mentioned something similar recently in another thread. Walsh always picks up the credit as he was the face of the player acquisition team, however I wonder whether the loss of Mackenzie and Wrigglesworth were actually a bigger loss although I guess we'll never know.

 

For those criticising the signing of the likes of Musa, Mendy, Amartey, Gray, and Kaputska, be patient! There's plenty of time for these players to develop and it's obvious that all of them whilst not quite at the level needed right now have the quality to go on and be very good players. Will people still be critical of Ranieri in a 2/3 years time when we've got one of the best young teams in the country banging on the door of the top 4?

 

Anyone questioning his ability to spot a player might want to take a look over the following signings that he made whilst in charge at both Chelsea and Monaco to name just a few:Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge, Frank Lampard, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Geremi, Juan Veron, Arjen Robben, Claude Makelele, Adrian Mutu, Hernan Crespo, Petr Cech, Falcao, James Rodriguez, Joao Moutinho, Eric Abidal, Ricardo Carvalho, Jeremy Toulalan. 

[Bert]

36 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

Who's been appointed?

I don't know. But have it on good authority from a reliable journalist who covers us a lot. 

[volpeazzurro]

48 minutes ago, ian_marshall said:

Excellent post, I mentioned something similar recently in another thread. Walsh always picks up the credit as he was the face of the player acquisition team, however I wonder whether the loss of Mackenzie and Wrigglesworth were actually a bigger loss although I guess we'll never know.

 

For those criticising the signing of the likes of Musa, Mendy, Amartey, Gray, and Kaputska, be patient! There's plenty of time for these players to develop and it's obvious that all of them whilst not quite at the level needed right now have the quality to go on and be very good players. Will people still be critical of Ranieri in a 2/3 years time when we've got one of the best young teams in the country banging on the door of the top 4?

 

Anyone questioning his ability to spot a player might want to take a look over the following signings that he made whilst in charge at both Chelsea and Monaco to name just a few:Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge, Frank Lampard, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Geremi, Juan Veron, Arjen Robben, Claude Makelele, Adrian Mutu, Hernan Crespo, Petr Cech, Falcao, James Rodriguez, Joao Moutinho, Eric Abidal, Ricardo Carvalho, Jeremy Toulalan. 

Absolutely,  not a bad bunch to chose from there eh?. Amazing how at 65yrs of age and a whole career in football, Ranieri still doesn't have a clue when compared to a bunch of keyboard artists who couldn't agree with each other who to sign anyway!