Simo86 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 42 minutes ago, goose2010 said: Schlupp can not play he doesnt deserve to, i actually cant remember the last time he played well for us? Start Chilwell no point playing players out of position and the lad needs to be in our team if he is going to step up at some point. Kasper Simpson Amartey Morgan Chilwell Mahrez King Drinkwater (if fit Mendy if not) Albrighton (only becasue he will support Chilwell more than Gray) Silimani Shinji Good time to be playing Everton i would say. But you want to play Amartey at CB? He may have played there before, but CM/DM seems his position
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 Given the recent conspiracy theory's discovered by our fans that the FA are attempting to get Everton as high up the league as possible and and have it in for us I am not feeling to confident. 3-0 Everton, all dodgey pens (all scored by Ross Barkley to add insult), Andy King to get sent off for improper tone of voice. Fox Mulder to show up at FT and begin helping us discover "The Truth"
Koke Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 Chilwel had 2 bad games against Porto and Chelsea but people forget Schlupp was even worse against Porto - and he's had numerous other shocking performances. Chilwell won't get better if he doesn't play and Everton aren't anything special he should be scared of.
lifted*fox Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 11 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Fox Mulder to show up at FT and begin helping us discover "The Truth" I'd prefer it if Gillian Anderson turned up. Well, Gillian Anderson from 20 years ago maybe.
foxes21 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 I think people are forgetting about the extreme lack of cover Chilwell got against Porto & Chelsea. Against Porto, Schlupp left him completely isolated. As did Gray when he switched flanks. Against Chelsea, Schlupp didn't track back and then Ulloa had to play on the wing. With Albrighton infront of him, we'll see a much better Chilwell because he'll actually have some support.
AjcW Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 20 minutes ago, Koke said: Chilwel had 2 bad games against Porto and Chelsea but people forget Schlupp was even worse against Porto - and he's had numerous other shocking performances. Chilwell won't get better if he doesn't play and Everton aren't anything special he should be scared of. I wouldn't be entirely confident of anyone going up against Seamus Coleman to be honest, Fuchs managed as well as he could in the away game last year but Coleman still ran rings round him all game.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 21 minutes ago, daz*dsb said: I'd prefer it if Gillian Anderson turned up. Well, Gillian Anderson from 20 years ago maybe. But she was the skeptic......eye candy is no good when it's telling you something ridiculous when it was just a bit of bad luck Vardy got sent off and Barkley got away with it!
Guest ttfn Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 52 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Have to agree with ttfn about Schlupp. SOUND THE TRUMPETS!!
goose2010 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 55 minutes ago, Simo86 said: But you want to play Amartey at CB? He may have played there before, but CM/DM seems his position He plays there for his national team? I wouldnt class that as out of posistion.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 4 minutes ago, goose2010 said: He plays there for his national team? I wouldnt class that as out of posistion. His first position was CB but he was moved further forward into CM due to his stamina Etc.
Dan Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 53 minutes ago, Koke said: Chilwel had 2 bad games against Porto and Chelsea but people forget Schlupp was even worse against Porto - and he's had numerous other shocking performances. Chilwell won't get better if he doesn't play and Everton aren't anything special he should be scared of. Schlupp will never ever make it as a left back and I say that with certainty. He hasn't got the concentration or the brain. I will be annoyed if he plays over Chilwell. I think the left back situation is going to make me go with Albrighton over Gray as well.
Fox92 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Schlupp will never ever make it as a left back and I say that with certainty. He hasn't got the concentration or the brain. I will be annoyed if he plays over Chilwell. I think the left back situation is going to make me go with Albrighton over Gray as well. Agree. Or Schlupp (I know) in front of Chilwell. We all know what Coleman is like in terms of being an attacking threat.
FoxinNotts Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Schlupp will never ever make it as a left back and I say that with certainty. He hasn't got the concentration or the brain. I will be annoyed if he plays over Chilwell. I think the left back situation is going to make me go with Albrighton over Gray as well. I agree. Shame for Gray. Maybe CR will surprise us and play Gray instead of Okazaki in th second striker role.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 23 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Agree. Or Schlupp (I know) in front of Chilwell. We tried that at Porto and in the EFL-Cup. It didn't work . Schlupp is obviously no longer interested in the proceedings at LCFC. To field a player, who doesn't give a damn about the club, would be a major risk. I guess, we will see Chilwell and Albrighton on the left side. And Gray will replace Mahrez in the second half. As usual.
UPinCarolina Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 2 hours ago, daz*dsb said: I'd prefer it if Gillian Anderson turned up. Well, Gillian Anderson from 20 years ago maybe. Mmmm. She's still got it, IMO.
st albans fox Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 Schlupp cooked his goose in Porto with the second goal (and other pieces of shambolic concentration) mind you, if we were just losing him then why play him in two U23 fixtures. Surely, that kind of 'punishment' makes it seem as though we will bring him back into the first team squad.
shiv Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 3 hours ago, foxes21 said: I think people are forgetting about the extreme lack of cover Chilwell got against Porto & Chelsea. Against Porto, Schlupp left him completely isolated. As did Gray when he switched flanks. Against Chelsea, Schlupp didn't track back and then Ulloa had to play on the wing. With Albrighton infront of him, we'll see a much better Chilwell because he'll actually have some support. This. I think I've said this about 5 times in different threads
OllieLodge96 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 Not starting Gray would be criminal.... I just don't get what more he can do to warrant a starting place?
Spicer Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 Kasper Simpson Morgan Amartey/Hernandez Chilwell Gray Drinkwater Mendy/James Albrighton Ulloa Okazaki I feel like Gray has been doing enough to deserve to start, similarly I think Mahrez needs to be dropped as he hasn't been playing well. I know King and Amartey played well against Man City and the second half against Stoke. But they don't have any presence most of the time and have really been struggling most of the time to have any impact.
MrSpaM Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 6 hours ago, themightyfin said: Why is everyone writing off Chilwell? He had a bad game last time out granted but tell me who actually didn't that night? He was no better or worse than anyone. I can see lot of egg on people's faces when he plays outstanding but of course everyone then here will be bigging him up as world class. People here on Foxestalk change their opinions more than QPR change their managers. People are writing him off because pretty much every game he's played he's made a mistake that's led to a goal, and spends the entire game getting skinned repeatedly I'm not saying Schlupp's much better, but at least he can catch people up when they get past him
themightyfin Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 6 minutes ago, MrSpaM said: People are writing him off because pretty much every game he's played he's made a mistake that's led to a goal, and spends the entire game getting skinned repeatedly I'm not saying Schlupp's much better, but at least he can catch people up when they get past him I think your getting him mixed up with someone else Chilwell is not slow by any means.
MrSpaM Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1 minute ago, themightyfin said: I think your getting him mixed up with someone else Chilwell is not slow by any means. So why does he spend half the game reading the back of a wingers shirt
dynamark Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 At least at left back Jeff doesn't have to think too much more like reacting to the situation he is is quick and strong.He seems lost in midfield where he has to make decisions/ something happen.A choice between the two Id go with Jeff Chilwell is easy on the eye but rarely makes a tackle(reminds me of Lawrence),turns his back and I think he often goes forward when caution is needed.Wish him well though . Amarty wth Morgan .Mahrez has to play and Albrighton.for defence I understand the feeling for Gray but he is great later when the game is stretched and players are fatigued ,Same problem when we had Knocky and Mahrez couldn't play em both.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 27 minutes ago, Spicer said: Kasper Simpson Morgan Amartey/Hernandez Chilwell Gray Drinkwater Mendy/James Albrighton Ulloa Okazaki I feel like Gray has been doing enough to deserve to start, similarly I think Mahrez needs to be dropped as he hasn't been playing well. I know King and Amartey played well against Man City and the second half against Stoke. But they don't have any presence most of the time and have really been struggling most of the time to have any impact. Regarding the fact, that Mahrez, Slimani and Amartey will perhaps miss 4 PL games in January/February, thanks to AFCON, it would make a lot of sense to use them now, as much as possible.
Sionnach gorm Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 I think many here have some excellent points on the players. But as far as tactics are concerned I'm glad we do not use the 4-2-3-1 or the 433. We just don't have the players for it. The 433 is an attacking formation that requires two very strong defensive (regista) midfielders with a Stryker-midfielder. The 4231 (seemingly the English flavor of the day) can be a disaster if you do not have the same in midfield (just look at man city's modified 4321, their 4141, and how it was destroyed by little old Leicester). The 442 with strong pressing is still the most dangerous if well executed. Sacchi's juggernaut Milan proved that. I belive Ranieri has a good handle on our players ability. I just don't see at the moment a formation that suits us better.
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