MC Prussian Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 1 hour ago, foxes21 said: We could get away with only 3 CB options next season, with Amartey covering CM/CB. Problem is if we have 4 CB's on our books next season we won't be able to keep the 4th choice happy. My bet is we'll persist with a back four, so you'll automatically have at least two first-team centre-backs who need a lot of patience. Or cup matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 Should mean Wasilewski is likely to leave/retire if we acquire Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 Not overly keen on short cb's given we've got small players all over the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 54 minutes ago, Babylon said: Not overly keen on short cb's given we've got small players all over the pitch. Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adster Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 1 minute ago, Ashley said: Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air Agreed. Vardy is no giant and he's probably our best headerer of the ball. Always have faith in him winning flick ons despite him not being the tallest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 32 minutes ago, Ashley said: Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air Van Dijk and Robert Huth may have something to say about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 1 hour ago, Adster said: Agreed. Vardy is no giant and he's probably our best headerer of the ball. Always have faith in him winning flick ons despite him not being the tallest. Funny, I've never noticed that, he rarely seems to win the forward hoofs I always think, perhaps I haven't watched closely enough. I like big and strong at centre back. Huth but faster and better on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 4 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Funny, I've never noticed that, he rarely seems to win the forward hoofs I always think, perhaps I haven't watched closely enough. I like big and strong at centre back. Huth but faster and better on the ball. Christopher Jullien..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 1 hour ago, Ashley said: Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air That's absolute crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 4 May 2017 Share Posted 4 May 2017 1 hour ago, Babylon said: That's absolute crap. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 12 hours ago, Ashley said: Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air Yeah all the best high jumpers are 5ft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 18 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Should mean Wasilewski is likely to leave/retire if we acquire Gibson. out of contract this summer. 16 hours ago, Ashley said: Height is a myth. Smaller guys generally have a better leap too and win more in the air 15 hours ago, Babylon said: That's absolute crap. not total crap. Speedie Keegan Cottie and loads more prove you don't have to be tall to win headers. Similar to the short keeper crap. Paul Cooper saved more pens than anyone. And I don't remember him struggling with cross like Kasper has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 Iain Hume was 5'7 and he won a lot of headers against big CBs. Having said that, I'd rather have CBs who are above 6'0 tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 56 minutes ago, sylofox said: not total crap. Speedie Keegan Cottie and loads more prove you don't have to be tall to win headers. Similar to the short keeper crap. Paul Cooper saved more pens than anyone. And I don't remember him struggling with cross like Kasper has. Yes, it is total crap... smaller guys do not generally win more in the air. Nobody has said it's impossible, but generally the taller players win out because... well they are taller. 6ft4" and above Mertesacker 77% Aerial duals won McAuley 69% 6ft 3" / 6ft 4" Virgil VD 73% Smalling 68% Cahill 62% Huth 53% (previous seasons 62%+) 6 ft 2" or under Gibson 51% Benalouanne 44% Chester 54% Ben Mee has a very respectable 61% this year, but he's still way off the majority of tall CB's. Yes, age will make a difference a young CB will have that spring and an aging CB will lose it (See Huth's yearly deterioration). But height will win out more often than it won't. If that wasn't the case you'd have high jump and basketball wouldn't be dominated by huge people. Players with the most aerials won per game in the league (obviously how a team plays can dictate this so not as accurate as percentages won like the above. But the trend is there. Only three people under 6ft 2". Benteke 6ft 3" Carroll 6ft 4" Crouch 6ft 7" Deeney 6ft Vokes 6ft 2" Negrado 6ft 1" VVD 6ft 4" Lloriente 6ft 4" Keane 6ft 3" Otamendi 6ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 Awesome statistical analysis Babylon. Been a busy end to the working week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 9.1 aerial duels won per game! Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 Glad we're starting to think long-term from the back shoukd we get him, now we've got talented youngsters up the field. But the expectation with him will be high from the word 'go', but hope he gets a good amount of time to settle in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 5 May 2017 Share Posted 5 May 2017 Where did Ormondroyd go wrong, absolutely useless in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les-tah Posted 11 May 2017 Share Posted 11 May 2017 on talksport just.. that because west brom have new chinese investors they are now the front runners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 11 May 2017 Share Posted 11 May 2017 On 05/05/2017 at 23:47, Wymeswold fox said: Glad we're starting to think long-term from the back shoukd we get him, now we've got talented youngsters up the field. But the expectation with him will be high from the word 'go', but hope he gets a good amount of time to settle in. I don't think expectations will be that high to begin with unless a crazy price is paid. Although they looked shot earlier in the campaign, I'd be confident in any combination of Wes / Huth / Benny to start the season with (famous last words). So in that regard a new player can be eased into the team. Also you never know, Ndidi looked good straight away and if anything improved! When the scouting team get it right, they nail it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyT Posted 22 May 2017 Share Posted 22 May 2017 Leicester and West Brom are competing to sign Middlesbrough centre-back Ben Gibson but could have to pay up to £20m. (Source: Daily Mirror) BBC Leicester SportVerified account @BBCRLSport 4h4 hours ago More Gossip: Leicester City and West Brom are competing to sign Middlesbrough's Ben Gibson for £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 22 May 2017 Share Posted 22 May 2017 Hope we get him. I'd be hoping for closer to £15m but hope we dont miss out being to tight like we did with Keane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 22 May 2017 Share Posted 22 May 2017 Rudkin to place a £9.50 offer. Middlesbrough "What do you think this is a sun holiday" Rudkin " I always start low but we should be somewhere close by January" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 22 May 2017 Share Posted 22 May 2017 Still not keen, he's got a lot of midfield protection at Boro which doesn't commit to attack, would suit West Brom more than us, probably end up at full back knowing Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 22 May 2017 Share Posted 22 May 2017 5 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: Still not keen, he's got a lot of midfield protection at Boro which doesn't commit to attack, would suit West Brom more than us, probably end up at full back knowing Pulis. To small, probably end up CDM for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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