chicagofox Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 So Gray is crap and Lawrence is a better option. And all this based on one meaningless performance in a meaningless game, 3 days in to Gray's preseason. OK!
Manc Fox Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 1 minute ago, chicagofox said: So Gray is crap and Lawrence is a better option. And all this based on one meaningless performance in a meaningless game, 3 days in to Gray's preseason. OK! Answer me this, howmany "practice" corners & free kicks did he take & how many found a team mate?? Preseason or not it was terrible mate.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 Just now, Manc Fox said: Answer me this, howmany "practice" corners & free kicks did he take & how many found a team mate?? Preseason or not it was terrible mate. Lawrence has taken some pretty dire set pieces too. Wasn't Gray's best performance tonight, but can't have been helped by the useless Leo.
justfoxes Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 At least we didn't lose !! [emoji849]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Manc Fox Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 7 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Lawrence has taken some pretty dire set pieces too. Wasn't Gray's best performance tonight, but can't have been helped by the useless Leo. Agree mate. I know its preseason, suppose I just expect him to b able to cross a ball when he's giving us ultimatums about playing him more.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 2 minutes ago, Manc Fox said: Agree mate. I know its preseason, suppose I just expect him to b able to cross a ball when he's giving us ultimatums about playing him more. When crossing, it helps to have clear players / space to aim for... he largely had Leo in a huff. In truth, the kid probably needs to leave us - we might not be right for him - but he has the raw potential to be a great player, so I'd like to see us give him a chance of achieving that with us first. I'm sure he'd be a 100% better player if he felt that we really believed in him as a starter week in / week out. He'd be able to relax more and just play, rather than worry about impressing to earn/keep his place.
M0901 Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 It's one game. You could take his stunner against Man U last season and state he's brilliant, or tonight's performance and say he's poor. Either way he's a kid with a lot of talent and he should get more of a chance to prove it.
ozvaldo Posted 28 July 2017 Posted 28 July 2017 If Johnson, King, and Iborra could make a 10 yard clever pass inside, Gray would have had lots more ball. He made lots of good runs but no one saw him. Looked a bit rusty but he was ok.
UniFox21 Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 Just a number, but fact he's been changed to number 7, classic wingers number, surely could be read to show he's big in the plans this year?
NewquayFox Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 I think Gray will become a decent player in our squad if he learns to look up and use his team mates more, and/or learn how to hit the bloody target and not row Z. stating the obvious but he's a bit of a moaner/sulker whereas Lawrence isn't..., Up the City.....
foxfanazer Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 13 hours ago, chicagofox said: So Gray is crap and Lawrence is a better option. And all this based on one meaningless performance in a meaningless game, 3 days in to Gray's preseason. OK! Unbelievable isn't it! Gotta be one of the most fickle bunch of fans in the country Got one of the most exciting young English talents in Gray and all we can do is bash him for not being the finished article and actually wanting to play
Bluetintedspecs Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 2 hours ago, foxfanazer said: Unbelievable isn't it! Gotta be one of the most fickle bunch of fans in the country Got one of the most exciting young English talents in Gray and all we can do is bash him for not being the finished article and actually wanting to play Clueless kneejerk muppets I'm afraid.
moseeds Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 3 hours ago, foxfanazer said: Unbelievable isn't it! Gotta be one of the most fickle bunch of fans in the country Got one of the most exciting young English talents in Gray and all we can do is bash him for not being the finished article and actually wanting to play There's still a tendency to favour tenacious bulldogs in the mould of Ian Hume - plenty of heart, little skill. The rapid transition from League 2 to Premier League champions means we haven't as a fan base become accustomed to a different style of player or play.
the fox Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 I would expect a man who runs his mouth a lot for game time to rip it up when its time to show up. He made his bed and now people will judge him harshly because he thinks he's all that. If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk!
Livid Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 It was his first game in a makeshift second 11. If we were having a mass clear out based on pre season we would have a squad in single digits.
SheppyFox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 On 28/07/2017 at 21:50, chicagofox said: So Gray is crap and Lawrence is a better option. And all this based on one meaningless performance in a meaningless game, 3 days in to Gray's preseason. OK! No id assume it's based on him doing nothing that remarkable since being with us, but for some reason still expecting first team football other than that Man Utd fluke he's largely been forgettable, he's selfish with a horrid end product, he may come good ofcourse, then again so might might hamer!
Clever Fox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 I just worry about what we're coaching him because he doesn't seem to be learning the simple things. Like using the Ball to create the space and also passing. He should study Albrighton and adopt a similar approach.
dedlock Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 I am undecided on Gray. He clearly has enough potential and some skill, e.g. his goal at Old Trafford. Too often his end product is lacking. It is as if,having made a breakthrough by his speed and skill,that he approaches 20 metres within the opposition goal his football brain goes into neutral. He worked well against MK plastics on Friday until the final third. His set piece delivery was also awry. The other team member who had had a similar break and played their first preseason game, Chilwell, was,for me one of our best performers on the night.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Gray is still a young lad, still developing, bags of talent and potential. He's behind the others in pre season. A touch of patience wouldn't go amiss.
gurru991 Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 2 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Gray is still a young lad, still developing, bags of talent and potential. He's behind the others in pre season. A touch of patience wouldn't go amiss. Patience is a rarity at the Forum !!!
ARM1968 Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Patience Premier League children and all will be as you wish. Instant gratification is not the road to true satisfaction. You must plant the seed, water the seed, tend the seed - only then will you see it grow and flower.
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