Man City Post Match Thread

[Chico1958]

Don't like Man City and still don't

 

Boys did well and did us proud

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

One thing though, if we ever do become consistently successful and challenge for the big trophies. Please please please do not let us sell our soul like Man City have done. Maine Road use to be a decent atmosphere a good club for the inner city. Now the etihad barely got an atmosphere, they've sold their club and have to be some of the worst sets of supporters (if you can call them that) in world football.

[Guest the fox]

And for the gray fanboys, how did he look when he had to drop deep and was doubled everytime he touched the ball.

Be careful what you wish for.

[fazzyfox]

Albrighton is scheduled to have surgery on his nose. The club have booked an operating theatre...and the one next to it.

[RowlattsFox]

Away from the decisions..

 

Mahrez was much better second half, chilwell was excellent for large parts, Benny has done well on the whole but we need to improve defence and simpsons distribution was as shit as ever. 

 

I was a little disappointed with Ndidi, don't know if he missed drinky next to him. 

[foxy boxing]

First of all a great goal by Okazaki and I'd love to see him do that on a regular basis. Secondly Mahrez wasted an excellent opportunity to get us a point, I don't care that he didn't mean to do it he should have been more professional with a proper run up and blasted it into the goal. We played well second half after a bad first half, stupid challenge by benalouane for the penalty and Sterling was clearly off side and interfering in play for their first goal

[justfoxes]

4 minutes ago, Chico1958 said:

Don't like Man City and still don't

 

Boys did well and did us proud

They get under your skin by the way they cheat whinge and dive and their fans are so quiet you could almost hear a pin drop !!

[brucey]

King > Amartey for the next two games?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

First goal given despite a blatant offside. 

Nothing given for a blatant elbow on Albrighton leaving him with a big black eye

Converted penalty ruled out for obscure law, when it should have been retaken because the keeper was half a yard off his line and 2 Man City players were in the box. 

 

Video ref ASAP please because this is getting absurd. 

Big club win again in home banker ref shock

 

[potter3]

5 minutes ago, the fox said:

Like I said, I might've been heated and overreacted (I edited my comments)

I just expect more of riyad, I think its a case of "great expectations, greater disappointments"

Shame we are probably seeing him for no more than 2 games after this season.

 

 

 

Yeah I definitely agree that we all expected more from him this season. It's just I don't understand all the blame being put on him for this particular incident. Not just you by the way, I only replied to you because you're generally pro-Mahrez

[worthosoriginals]

28 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

 

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

It's always nice when the referees  mum 

 Puts us in our place on foxestalk.

[TJB-fox]

15 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

I thoroughly disagree with this.

 

We have Gray, Albrighton and Chilwell who can also create.

 

Gray is as much a wizard as Mahrez is. Both seem to just run into opposition at the moment. Difference is that Mahrez is doubled up on.

 

Albrighton, he doesn't get enough credit for his creativity.

 

Chilwell, he can run the full length of the pitch and open up a game.

Watch today's game, aside from albrightons cross for the goal nobody else has really created anything of note. A few decent runs forward by Chilwell but nothing major. 

Even on his off days Mahrez is leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else in terms of creativity and chances created 

[AmarteyAndChill]

I think 3-5-2 would suit us. Fuchs at left CB and Chilwell LWB. With Riyad in behind Slimani and Vardy. Thought Fuchs played well today. 

[Guest the fox]

2 minutes ago, potter3 said:

 

Yeah I definitely agree that we all expected more from him this season. It's just I don't understand all the blame being put on him for this particular incident. Not just you by the way, I only replied to you because you're generally pro-Mahrez

, and still pro-mahrez, just got emotional, i'm all for constructive criticism, if you are gonna say something bad about riyad, the least you can do is provide legit reasons.

 

I think he is the easiest to blame in this squad (the only one close is shinji).

I wonder how people will react when he is gone, for all his downsides, he never started trouble and never did a payet in January.

He is amazing, and when he killed that 60 yard ball and you can hear the etihad was just silent (as usual) and our away fans just exploded together with an "ouuhhh", it almost gave me goosebumps.

 

[shen]

15 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

I thoroughly disagree with this.

 

We have Gray, Albrighton and Chilwell who can also create.

 

Gray is as much a wizard as Mahrez is. Both seem to just run into opposition at the moment. Difference is that Mahrez is doubled up on.

 

Albrighton, he doesn't get enough credit for his creativity.

 

Chilwell, he can run the full length of the pitch and open up a game.

Gray hasn't produced for a long time now.

Chilwell? Apart from a gung ho performance against Atletico, what exactly did he produce this game?

Albrighton I'll give you can create things on this form.

Still Mahrez' role in the buildup to Shinji's goal was crucial. It was similar in the buildup to Albrighton's chance and finally he won the penalty. Apart from Ndidi's header first half, did we create much else? He was even in space inside the box when Slimani failed to find him at the end.

 

And yes, he lost the ball a lot as well and I agree that he should release the ball much sooner than he sometimes does to keep the pace up. Yet the above examples show what happens when he makes the right decisions.

[deejdeej]

2 minutes ago, shen said:

Gray hasn't produced for a long time now.

Chilwell? Apart from a gung ho performance against Atletico, what exactly did he produce this game?

Albrighton I'll give you can create things on this form.

Still Mahrez' role in the buildup to Shinji's goal was crucial. It was similar in the buildup to Albrighton's chance and finally he won the penalty. Apart from Ndidi's header first half, did we create much else? He was even in space inside the box when Slimani failed to find him at the end.

 

And yes, he lost the ball a lot as well and I agree that he should release the ball much sooner than he sometimes does to keep the pace up. Yet the above examples show what happens when he makes the right decisions.

Thought Chilwell looked excellent going forward...

[shen]

Just now, deejdeej said:

Thought Chilwell looked excellent going forward...

He looked lively and had a couple of runs, but what did he create? I recall one pass through to Shinji early in the second half which we didn't get enough out of, but that's it for tangible chance creation I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

This is a different discussion, but I actually don't think Chilwell is all that. He struggles defensively and we have seen over the past three seasons that our defense doesn't cope well when wingers get in behind. It's why Fuchs and Simpson stand off so much and keep tight. Today Chilwell failed to convince again and I don't see him being a starter in a team with the ambitions we have.

[Guest Col city fan]

Really proud of them all today. After a very difficult 30 mins, they showed grit and determination to get back into the game, in a way they never would earlier this season.

The penalty was bizarre and personally I think a draw would have been a fair result.

We must keep Shakey. Imperative imo.

[Merging Cultures]

20 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Watch today's game, aside from albrightons cross for the goal nobody else has really created anything of note. A few decent runs forward by Chilwell but nothing major. 

Even on his off days Mahrez is leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else in terms of creativity and chances created 

Ah, but the comment wasn't necessarily about just today's game. Said Mahrez is our only creative player. Which isn't true.

[Thracian]

Injustice? How many times have I said we should let our centre-forward take penalties?

What a nonsense.

 

As for Amartey, Who the hell was pleading for his inclusion?  The man has about as much urgency as a combine harvester and as much desire on a football pitch as a rheumatic centenarian.

 

Fernandino showed what desire to get the ball/cheekbone/etc was all about yet we were like choirboys.

 

Should Fernandino have been sent off? I thought he should have been arrested and subject to ABH enquiries but at least he showed some attitude and while Albrighton's reaction was no more than the token response of a naturally nice guy, it was so out of character I find it hard to imagine he thought the clash "accidental". .  

 

If only Amartey showed the same desire to contest possession as the Manchester right back and the necessary focus to pass the ball with intention and accuracy. But I won't say anymore. I can only presume he has family on here promoting him rather than any serious assessors and I can't blame family for that. 

 

Our passing in the first half today was awful. Even the normally competent Chilwell seemed to pass the ball out of play, or to the wrong coloured blue. He wasn't the only one. At one stage I presumed all the Manchester City players were dads and we were just giving them the ball  ahead of Fathers Day as the best gift we could offer.

 

We were better second half but, In the end though, if you miss penalties, you don't deserve anything for all that we posed a greater threat the more time passed.   

 

Mahrez, apart from his penalty, played his part in a quicksilver move involving Albrighton that led to a brilliant volleyed goal from Shinji and also threatened danger on several other occasions when he either beat his man and delivered a potentially useful ball or tried to beat him several times and messed up.

 

Overall though I was disappointed we didn't force at least a draw. Their first goal might have been controversial but Silva's shot was heading in after a move which tore us apart.

 

Quite why we took 45 minutes to recognise that Silva was their orchestral conductor I don't know but he was much less apparent second half as were Manchester as an attacking force all round.

 

Their second goal was down to the sort of indiscretion that typifies Benny. Basically, he's a decent player but he just has moments of recklessness which let both him and the team down. I don't expect he'll change for all that I'm sure he'll try to.

 

What's it matter, of course. The season's over. The world doesn't end because we missed a penalty and lost 2-1. And we did get chance to see some fringe players that everyone keeps shouting about.

 

Chilwell I rated four in the first half and seven in the second which equates to 5.5 overall. Amartey was only part time but if I generously double his 2/5 that would make 4/10 for the game. As for Gray, it wouldn't be fair to mark him at all he was able to effect so little.

 

Man of the Match for Leicester? Albrighton went close with his brilliant cross for our goal and the only player who  really played with sufficient urgency for his entire presence.

 

Mahrez gave him some competition because he did spell trouble for Manchester when on the ball. In the end though I'd give it to Shinji for such a memorable goal - one of the few I've seen from him that's involved full contact - and for a generally energetic contribution.      

 

Other than that, the game will linger only for the bizarre way we missed a penalty and the fact that some referees seem to accept people being elbowed in the face even when presented with evidence so glaring it was probably visible from space.

 

It's not for me to suggest the elbowing was deliberate. But what about dangerous play? An inch or so higher and we'd all have been wearing Albrighton "Get Well" Cyclops Shirts.   

 

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[WigstonWanderer]

55 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

 

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

 

[Merging Cultures]

16 minutes ago, shen said:

Gray hasn't produced for a long time now.

Chilwell? Apart from a gung ho performance against Atletico, what exactly did he produce this game?

Albrighton I'll give you can create things on this form.

Still Mahrez' role in the buildup to Shinji's goal was crucial. It was similar in the buildup to Albrighton's chance and finally he won the penalty. Apart from Ndidi's header first half, did we create much else? He was even in space inside the box when Slimani failed to find him at the end.

 

And yes, he lost the ball a lot as well and I agree that he should release the ball much sooner than he sometimes does to keep the pace up. Yet the above examples show what happens when he makes the right decisions.

Gray has hardly had the time on the pitch has he. If he had the minutes Mahrez has had, I think he'd have created a fair few chances.

[WigstonWanderer]

59 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

Which is the first offence. By the rules, Madley should have stopped it and had it retaken, as Man City commit an offence before Mahrez touches the ball. That Mahrez has gone on to touch it twice is irrelevant, the first offence is by the city players, so the correct decision is a retake.

Actually according to the rules published earlier in the thread, the kick should have been retaken anyway regardless of the MC encroachment. The rules state that if the kicker commits  an offence and the ball ends up in the net the kick should be retaken. There are some exceptions but they don't apply here. It's quite clear. I didn't realise this at the time and thought the ref had acted correctly so I've learnt something. I bet Madley hasn't.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

Horrendous refereeing never felt such injustice at the end of a game!

first goal offside.

Fernadiniho should have walked 

and the double hit was a joke, yes it's the letter of the law but that's not what the law was designed for. 

 

 

As for the penalty, I can't help but think that if we were winning 2-1 and an opponent double hit a penalty in the same way, and the goal was allowed, we'd all be in uproar...

[orangecity23]

3 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Actually according to the rules published earlier in the thread, the kick should have been retaken anyway regardless of the MC encroachment. The rules state that if the kicker commits  an offence and the ball ends up in the net the kick should be retaken. There are some exceptions but they don't apply here. It's quite clear. I didn't realise this at the time and thought the ref had acted correctly so I've learnt something. I bet Madley hasn't.

Sorry, my fault here, the last bit of the stuff I copied in and the "Summary table" from the FA website didn't paste in properly.The missing bit is below. The first bit of the rules talks about the kicker or teammates committing an offence before the kick is taken (leading to retakes). The "double kick" is an offence after the kick is taken. Full website here. (http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick)

 

The encroachment by the Man City players is an offence by the defending team before the kick is taken. Then Mahrez hits the ball the first time, it is in play, then he touches it a second time and at that moment it is out of play. The ball does end in the net, but technically it is out of play from the moment it hits Mahrez a second time, so if the ref correctly spots the encroachment and the double hit, the ball "hasn't ended in the net" (because it is out of play on the 2nd hit) and the retake is needed because Man City committed an offence before the kick was taken and the attacking team haven't scored.

 

If, after the penalty kick has been taken:

the kicker touches the ball again before it has touched another player:

• an indirect free kick (or direct free kick for deliberate hand ball) is awarded the ball is touched by an outside agent as it moves forward:
• the kick is retaken 

the ball rebounds into the field of play from the goalkeeper, the crossbar or the goalposts and is then touched by an outside agent:

• the referee stops play
• play is restarted with a dropped ball at the position where it touched the outside agent