Man City Post Match Thread

[ealingfox]

2 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

 

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

 

He was interfering with 2 of our players and made a deliberate attempt to play the ball. There's no debate about it, it's offside.

[foxes_rule1978]

Just now, foxes21 said:

2 man city players were in the box when the penalty was taken, so it should have been re-taken 

I saw and you are right, they step into the box just before it is struck... 

[halfpipe]

1 minute ago, ajthefox said:

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

 

Please see the post made by somebody above with the actual rules on penalties. Two Man City players were in the box at the time Riyad made contact with the ball. Riyad made two touches with the ball.

 

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a player of both teams infringes the Laws of the Game, the kick is retaken unless a player commits a more serious offence (e.g. illegal feinting)

 

As far as I can tell, both teams infringed the laws of the game, and so the kick should be retaken. No blue-tinted specs here, the rules are clear and obvious for all to see. It's a fact that it should have been retaken, not opinion.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

35 minutes ago, KFS said:

Oh **** off and take all your weird mates with you. He sulks around and does **** all, he's done it for months you blind ****.

This. 

 

How many times does Mahrez give the ball away. It's off the charts.

 

For all idiots out there; it's not good play when you beat a player with sublime skill and then decide to take on another 3 players and lose it rather than pass it to a team mate.

 

Shakey needs to take control of these issues.

 

Firstly lets not be passive until we go behind. This pattern is starting to concern me.

 

Secondly, take the penalties off Mahrez. Today I don't blame him for, it was a a slip, but his overall  conversion rate is simply awful.

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

 

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

You don't need to make contact only an attempt to. There is nothing rose tinted about that. I'm more concerned with how crap we were first half though.

 

Second one looked correct, but if those rules above are correct then it should have been retaken.

[Redouane]

11 minutes ago, peterborofox said:

Forgotten the Swansea missed one have we?

Oh yeah, 1 failed penalty then 5 successful penalties. 

[FireFox]

3 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

He clearly stopped Fuchs from trying to block it.

 

3 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

Nope. The law states it should have been a retake.

[Guest the fox]

4 minutes ago, potter3 said:

 

Can't actually tell if you're being facetious or not. Never seen you slate Mahrez yet you are now because he slipped as he took the penalty?

I'm not slating him, just pointing things out.

Some people paint me as the fanboy, i'm never that. It was obvious he committed a mistake and that cost us a goal, even tho it wasn't a pen and 2 man city players are in the box.

It's a shame because he had a good second half.

[BoyJones]

4 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Have a little sympathy with Madley for the goal, as there is so much confusion with the rules. If you're in the 6 yard box and in an offside position you should be given offside, end of. Then there is no confusion about interfering with play. I don't think sterling as any impact of Kasper but he does on Fuchs. 

 

Penalty is just unlucky. Rule needs changing though, encroachment is a retake so why shouldn't a accidental double touch also be a retake? 

 

Good second half, Fuchs was my MOM, thought he did really well out of position. 

I have no sympathy for the referee, the rules are in place, Madley just decides which ones he will follow on a match by match basis. An incredibly poor referee. He made the game difficult because he makes so many wrong decisions.

 

The penalty ended up in the net, should have been a retake. Clear intended elbow on Albrighton, he had it raised in position to take out the player. Again referee turned a blind eye. 

[orangecity23]

Just now, foxes_rule1978 said:

I saw and you are right, they step into the box just before it is struck... 

Which is the first offence. By the rules, Madley should have stopped it and had it retaken, as Man City commit an offence before Mahrez touches the ball. That Mahrez has gone on to touch it twice is irrelevant, the first offence is by the city players, so the correct decision is a retake.

[Koke]

What does Pep mean by this? What numbers?

 

 

[yorkie1999]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

You don't need to make contact only an attempt to. There is nothing rose tinted about that. I'm more concerned with how crap we were first half though.

 

Second one looked correct, but if those rules above are correct then it should have been retaken.

That's why you see players walking away from an offside position with their hands up

[RowlattsFox]

2 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

I have no sympathy for the referee, the rules are in place, Madley just decides which ones he will follow on a match by match basis. An incredibly poor referee. He made the game difficult because he makes so many wrong decisions.

 

The penalty ended up in the net, should have been a retake. Clear intended elbow on Albrighton, he had it raised in position to take out the player. Again referee turned a blind eye. 

He's a crap referee, not disputing that but I have sympathy with the first goal in the sense that the rules make it confusing for a ref when they have to make a quick decision. Even more so with an offside as they rely on the linesman making the decision. 

[halfpipe]

@ttfn just a quick one regarding the elbow on Albrighton. If the referee doesn't give initially give a foul, but then stops play (due to it being a head injury), can he then change his mind and give a free kick/booking? The state of Albrighton's face after the challenge makes it very clear that a foul was made, so I'm guessing that they can't go back and give the foul after letting it go initially?

[FrankieADZ]

4 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

Which is the first offence. By the rules, Madley should have stopped it and had it retaken, as Man City commit an offence before Mahrez touches the ball. That Mahrez has gone on to touch it twice is irrelevant, the first offence is by the city players, so the correct decision is a retake.

thats too much of a well rounded answer for this forum

 

well said btw 

[yorkie1999]

Just now, halfpipe said:

@ttfn just a quick one regarding the elbow on Albrighton. If the referee doesn't give initially give a foul, but then stops play (due to it being a head injury), can he then change his mind and give a free kick/booking? The state of Albrighton's face after the challenge makes it very clear that a foul was made, so I'm guessing that they can't go back and give the foul after letting it go initially?

Doesn't really matter because that game was rigged.

[halfpipe]

1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said:

Doesn't really matter because that game was rigged.

 

Definitely doesn't matter now, but I'm still interested to know the rules for such a situation 

[brucey]

5 minutes ago, Koke said:

What does Pep mean by this? What numbers?

 

 

Our points per game under Shakey, perhaps.

[Merging Cultures]

39 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

One of our best ever players, has a decent game, is our only creative spark, slips over and gets abuse classic FT, you've gotta laugh 

I thoroughly disagree with this.

 

We have Gray, Albrighton and Chilwell who can also create.

 

Gray is as much a wizard as Mahrez is. Both seem to just run into opposition at the moment. Difference is that Mahrez is doubled up on.

 

Albrighton, he doesn't get enough credit for his creativity.

 

Chilwell, he can run the full length of the pitch and open up a game.

[potter3]

8 minutes ago, the fox said:

I'm not slating him, just pointing things out.

Some people paint me as the fanboy, i'm never that. It was obvious he committed a mistake and that cost us a goal, even tho it wasn't a pen and 2 man city players are in the box.

It's a shame because he had a good second half.

 

But my point is, whatever people think about his penalty taking ability or stuttering run up, him slipping isn't his fault. Of all the things you can call Mahrez out for this season, that isn't one of them.

[fazzyfox]

A million miles away from the aways at United, Liverpool and Chelsea, just needed the PL to send a competent official and we don't lose that game. Very good all round, Albrighton, Chilwell, Fuchs in particular, just wish Benny could calm down his Kung Fu reactions, it works when he nicks the ball but it always looks like a penalty waiting to happen.

We did this without Drinky, Morgan and Huth and it's a level if not result that we should be very happy with. Against super dooper master manager and the wage bill and transfer budget at their disposal we lived with them for 99 1/2 minutes (should have been 100 but Madley can't count that high).

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

9 minutes ago, Koke said:

What does Pep mean by this? What numbers?

 

 

No idea but nice of him to say it and his opinion means far more than most others.

[justfoxes]

18 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Some really bitter, blue tinted spectacle wearing in this thread imo.

 

Sterling swung at the ball but didn't have any impact on the ball and didn't stop or interfere with any of our players. The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind.

 

And as for the pen, well Madley followed the law. It's very hard to take and I'm as pissed off as anyone else but it was the correct decision.

Not at all,the way we lost today has left probably all of us on here really pissed off the way we lost the game, Sterling was off side and interfering with play their opening goal should have been disallowed and as for Mahrez to have messed up with the penalty he slipped shit happens!

 

But the way Madely was so easily swayed by Manure City's players was disgraceful they whinged he obliged them that's how it felt,Albrighton was what can only be described as an assault by Fedihininio(spelling??) he should have seen red Madely shrugged it off even tho Albrighton had a shiner the size of a golf ball many decisions today was so suspect it was unbelievable the man should never referee in the premier league again !

 

If the premier league do not give a retrospective ban to Ferd?Then they are being as incompetent as Madely was today and most of if not all of the matches he has officiated, I really hope that we get video evidence very soon in this game because why should we put up with incompetent officials week in week out ruining the game we all love !!

[crisp packet]

If there was a case for video referees this was a good example.

We caused them problems... why do we have to wait till we go behind to start to play...?

[Guest the fox]

1 minute ago, potter3 said:

 

But my point is, whatever people think about his penalty taking ability or stuttering run up, him slipping isn't his fault. Of all the things you can call Mahrez out for this season, that isn't one of them.

Like I said, I might've been heated and overreacted (I edited my comments)

I just expect more of riyad, I think its a case of "great expectations, greater disappointments"

Shame we are probably seeing him for no more than 2 games after this season.