Drinkwater

[Countryfox]

33 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

that was my best fanboy impersonation... 

Got me ..    hook, line and sinker !     

[Bert]

1 hour ago, daz*dsb said:

Anyone who thinks either:

 

a) We're going to make a decent fist of this season without drinky - relying on king, amartey, james and iborra as our midfield options

b) Rudkin has even the slightest ****ing idea of who to replace him with and isn't just sat about playing minesweeper

 

needs their ****ing head checking. 

 

We WILL NOT replace Drinkwater with a player of equal quality this late in the window - even with £40m at our disposal - Why? 

 

Because despite people's blind optimism; our DOF and scouting team have most likely not even foreseen this scenario let alone actually started looking into how they'd rectify it if it did happen. 

After last summers failings I fail to believe that we won't have an adequate replacement lined up should Drinky leave. The club know it's a possibility and if he does go and we've no-one lined up then that is just beyond words. 

[SecretPro]

Who cares, threads boring. Next.

[shen]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Who cares, threads boring. Next.

 

Agreed, threads don't offer much excitement unless you're a seamstress.

[Bluetintedspecs]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

They will have a list of people for every single position, they aren't stupid.

 

Not sure what people have got to moan about this summer with Rudkin, Maguire and Iborra happened quickly, we've stood our ground over Mahrez. We played the long game with Iheanacho, but it's clear the club knew what what going on behind the scenes to get it done, no matter how frustrating it was to sit here and not know what was happening.

 

I don't want to sell either because it will be difficult, it's been a difficult summer for most clubs in the market. But that's to do with the market we're in and not the DOF.

Spot on Babs, was just about to post something similar!

I also really admire our hardball stance too

[LcFc_Smiv]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Who else was on that FB piccie ?

 

it may not mean too much at this stage but if there is a chance that Chelsea could come up with the dosh then makes sense to be pro active rather than reactive 

 

at least we know kasper and vards aren't going anywhere!!

 

Shinji and Kelechi, I assume we are loaning Kelechi back to Man City and offloading Shinji to the lowest bidder.

[Fox 4 Life]

7 minutes ago, LcFc_Smiv said:

 

Shinji and Kelechi, I assume we are loaning Kelechi back to Man City and offloading Shinji to the lowest bidder.

That change of pic means nothing. They were promoting the new white kit, now they have all of the kits in one pic! I know you were joking by the way

[HighPeakFox]

3 hours ago, ronnup said:

If he goes it's an embarrassment now 

Well, once the E word gets used in a thread, you know it's serious...

[mazarron fox]

1 hour ago, daz*dsb said:

Anyone who thinks either:

 

a) We're going to make a decent fist of this season without drinky - relying on king, amartey, james and iborra as our midfield options

b) Rudkin has even the slightest ****ing idea of who to replace him with and isn't just sat about playing minesweeper

 

needs their ****ing head checking. 

 

We WILL NOT replace Drinkwater with a player of equal quality this late in the window - even with £40m at our disposal - Why? 

 

Because despite people's blind optimism; our DOF and scouting team have most likely not even foreseen this scenario let alone actually started looking into how they'd rectify it if it did happen. 

Source? 

[Stan]

I repeat - any evidence that this is happening??!!

[LcFc_Smiv]

9 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

That change of pic means nothing. They were promoting the new white kit, now they have all of the kits in one pic! I know you were joking by the way

 I've been at work too long today I think my original post was serious and now I'm thinking what on earth was I thinking posting that rubbish!

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 hour ago, daz*dsb said:

We are potentially about to let one of our best midfield players join another club and we've failed to strengthen in that area - again. 

 

I can agree that Maguire and Nacho appear to be good business but we're still yet to see a creative, forward-thinking midfielder - not just a failing of this window, but a failing for several windows now. 

 

We are seriously light in that area and it will be our downfall - especially if we get 1/2 injuries (which we've been a lot more prone to recently) and we have to rely on King and possibly Amartey week in, week out. 

 

With the money we acquired recently from PL win and CL finish we should have been going all out to get a serious attacking midfield contender - a statement signing to push us forward.

 

If something doesn't happen in the CB position we're looking very weak in that position as well. Still no competition for RB. 

 

We've had a decent window in a couple of positions but the positions we're REALLY crying out for have been ignored / forgotten / badly planned for, as we've come to expect, for yet another window. 

 

It's not all doom & gloom but we've had enough time and seen enough proof that CAM and CB need some serious overhaul, and to potentially be on the verge of another window passing without sorting is pure negligence on the part of DOF and Scouting team, imo. 

 

Also, holding onto Mahrez is good in the sense that it's shown we're not a club to be ****ed about / walked over but it means **** all when it comes to Mahrez commitment to the club and the effort we'll see from him this season. I'd much rather we shifted the unhappy player on for a good fee and had a high quality back up signing ready to come in - but again, where is that signing? Where is that quality? Where is the proactive recruitment?

 

Our recruitment is always reactive, never proactive. 

Totally agree

[Rigga]

1 hour ago, daz*dsb said:

We are potentially about to let one of our best midfield players join another club and we've failed to strengthen in that area - again. 

 

I can agree that Maguire and Nacho appear to be good business but we're still yet to see a creative, forward-thinking midfielder - not just a failing of this window, but a failing for several windows now. 

 

We are seriously light in that area and it will be our downfall - especially if we get 1/2 injuries (which we've been a lot more prone to recently) and we have to rely on King and possibly Amartey week in, week out. 

 

With the money we acquired recently from PL win and CL finish we should have been going all out to get a serious attacking midfield contender - a statement signing to push us forward.

 

If something doesn't happen in the CB position we're looking very weak in that position as well. Still no competition for RB. 

 

We've had a decent window in a couple of positions but the positions we're REALLY crying out for have been ignored / forgotten / badly planned for, as we've come to expect, for yet another window. 

 

It's not all doom & gloom but we've had enough time and seen enough proof that CAM and CB need some serious overhaul, and to potentially be on the verge of another window passing without sorting is pure negligence on the part of DOF and Scouting team, imo. 

 

Also, holding onto Mahrez is good in the sense that it's shown we're not a club to be ****ed about / walked over but it means **** all when it comes to Mahrez commitment to the club and the effort we'll see from him this season. I'd much rather we shifted the unhappy player on for a good fee and had a high quality back up signing ready to come in - but again, where is that signing? Where is that quality? Where is the proactive recruitment?

 

Our recruitment is always reactive, never proactive. 

??

 

i keep getting tokd told that  we can not get better than DD ....We should always be looking to improve..And that is whether he stays or goes..

We have about 5 holding midfielders but no one that can really unlock defences...

Iborra may work but only in a 3 I reckon as he isn't mobile enough to be chasing harassing opposition midfield..He is though comfortable in the ball but not yet proven if he is that answer we need...

 

in in the next couple of games I want to be seeing all of our outfield new signings playing and contributing to our cause...really hate the blood them in gently attitude as we always seem reluctant to break up the PL winning team

[Babylon]

We do seem to have an obsession with a creative CM, we haven't played with one for years really. I don't class DD as one because his goals and assists are as rare as rocking horse shit. We're a team who use wingers and width to create. A CM that's box to box, combative and also creative would be lovely... but likely to be ridiculously expensive or not available.

[FLAN]

Swansea in for Clucas now 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, shen said:

Who's playing down his importance? It's just a sober recognition that he's not an outstanding talent at this level and that he's not irreplaceable.

He's been very important to the team for a number of years, but last season showed he struggled (much like in the Great Escape season) in a two man midfield.

Seems a lot more of us think he is of a better level than siggy and an outstanding talent than agree with you. He didn't struggle last season, he was our best player for half of it and then got injured and still did better than some. I think you must have a personal axe to grind with DD.

 

3 hours ago, lgfualol said:

All ability to take a freekick on goal goes out the window when you join Leicester. Fuchs used to bang them in from freekicks and now he doesn't. 

but but Siggy can take a free kick. I thought that was why we had Mahrez and Fuchs and a couple of others. If we just want a FK taker perhaps we can sign that young Manure player who socred against the U23s the other day. I've rarely seen a better FK at any level and he's an RB - our real position of need.

 

3 hours ago, Countryfox said:

 

Blimey was just a general comment about several posts !! ...     but if the cap fits ...

 

And to me he is !! ...

 

 

 

And to me and many others.

 

2 hours ago, shen said:

In that one golden season he was extraordinary. Still, clubs were queuing up for Kanté and not Drinkwater (as far as we know).

Walsh, who knows Drinkwater better than anyone else at another PL club, never came in for Drinkwater either.

If he was such an outstanding talent, he would have been subject to far more serious bids before a £15m offer from Chelsea...

 

My reaction was more that his importance hasn't been downplayed. There's a difference between thinking what a fair price is for Drinkwater and downplaying his importance.

You don't know what offers we got for him. If he's so bad why would Chelsea want him above anyone else?

 

Drinkwater is an outstanding player entering his prime.

[shen]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

Seems a lot more of us think he is of a better level than siggy and an outstanding talent than agree with you. He didn't struggle last season, he was our best player for half of it and then got injured and still did better than some. I think you must have a personal axe to grind with DD.

 

but but Siggy can take a free kick. I thought that was why we had Mahrez and Fuchs and a couple of others. If we just want a FK taker perhaps we can sign that young Manure player who socred against the U23s the other day. I've rarely seen a better FK at any level and he's an RB - our real position of need.

You're the one making this a personal thing. The fact I rate Sigurdsson above Drinkwater doesn't mean I have an axe to grind at all. Your attempt to belittle my opinion because a few of you rate him higher than Sigurdsson is pathetic.

 

I wholly disagree with you that he was our best player for half of the season. It tells me you either a) missed a large chunk of games last season or b) refuse to acknowledge his struggles last season.

 

It's frankly insulting the way you reduce Sigurdsson to be just a 'good FK taker'. You cannot be that ignorant if you've actually seen him play.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, shen said:

You're the one making this a personal thing. The fact I rate Sigurdsson above Drinkwater doesn't mean I have an axe to grind at all. Your attempt to belittle my opinion because a few of you rate him higher than Sigurdsson is pathetic.

 

I wholly disagree with you that he was our best player for half of the season. It tells me you either a) missed a large chunk of games last season or b) refuse to acknowledge his struggles last season.

 

It's frankly insulting the way you reduce Sigurdsson to be just a 'good FK taker'. You cannot be that ignorant if you've actually seen him play.

 

My friend you are the one who has belittled our opinions.

 

You further that by inferring that your opinion is far superior to ours with your second paragraph.

 

Maybe you should just leave it at you prefer Siggy and accept that we rate Drinkwater far higher than you do.

 

No need to go further.

[cc_star]

48 minutes ago, Rigga said:

??

 

i keep getting tokd told that  we can not get better than DD ....We should always be looking to improve..And that is whether he stays or goes..

We have about 5 holding midfielders but no one that can really unlock defences...

Iborra may work but only in a 3 I reckon as he isn't mobile enough to be chasing harassing opposition midfield..He is though comfortable in the ball but not yet proven if he is that answer we need...

 

in in the next couple of games I want to be seeing all of our outfield new signings playing and contributing to our cause...really hate the blood them in gently attitude as we always seem reluctant to break up the PL winning team

What???? They need to be match fit to play

 

Maguire has gone straight into the team

 

It's not our fault that Iheanacho didn't play a part in any of ManCity's preseason & seems not to have kept himself on the top of his game so needs minutes on the pitch. Personally I'm surprised he didn't play in a U23 game Vs Man Utd on Monday along with Huth... And anyway he did (incorrectly) play in our first game of the season

 

Iborra would certainly have played a part against Arsenal too in our first game of the season, if he hadn't picked up an injury

 

Basically all of our new signings either did or would have played in the first game of the season

[Guest ttfn]

5 minutes ago, shen said:

You're the one making this a personal thing. The fact I rate Sigurdsson above Drinkwater doesn't mean I have an axe to grind at all. Your attempt to belittle my opinion because a few of you rate him higher than Sigurdsson is pathetic.

 

I wholly disagree with you that he was our best player for half of the season. It tells me you either a) missed a large chunk of games last season or b) refuse to acknowledge his struggles last season.

 

It's frankly insulting the way you reduce Sigurdsson to be just a 'good FK taker'. You cannot be that ignorant if you've actually seen him play.

Sigurdsson has been playing at or around the same standard Drinkwater hit for a year for at least 3 years now AND he's a great free kick taker.

 

Absolutely boggles my mind the value some on here seem to ascribe to Drinkwater, even allowing for blue tints.

[shen]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

 

My friend you are the one who has belittled our opinions.

 

You further that by inferring that your opinion is far superior to ours with your second paragraph.

 

Maybe you should just leave it at you prefer Siggy and accept that we rate Drinkwater far higher than you do.

 

No need to go further.

I shouldn't have to point out the irony in your comment, should I?

Either way, not getting bullied by someone who's not actually interested in facts or debating opinions in a mannered way.

[Bluetintedspecs]

All squabbling aside, is there any actual concrete news on this transfer?

[Dr The Singh]

3 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

All squabbling aside, is there any actual concrete news on this transfer?

Yes, you will be told at page number 125 of this thread

[sylofox]

16 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

All squabbling aside, is there any actual concrete news on this transfer?

56 pages and you want concrete NO CHANCE. Siggy 139 pages of total bollox and you expect news Bts?  

[Bluetintedspecs]

3 minutes ago, sylofox said:

56 pages and you want concrete NO CHANCE. Siggy 139 pages of total bollox and you expect news Bts?  

Nah, just thought I'd post an intermission between the bitch fights sylo