Ian Nacho Posted 25 October 2018 Posted 25 October 2018 Literally the definition of the footballing term, too casual. Probably a really good player but needs time on the ball.
Stadt Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 3 hours ago, Tuna said: Basically he's finished here isn't he. Claude clearly doesn't rate him and I can't see that changing. 30 early next year, I expect he'll be moving on in Jan. Disastrous signing all round, Sporting have had our pants down, twice ffs
harpendenfox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 £50 mill on Slim and Silva. At least Slim scored some key goals, like the winner against Porto, but sadly for Adrien I can barely remember a game where I feel he has had a decisive influence. We need a BOGOF promotion on our central midfielders in the January sales
Farrington fox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 Can’t believe how badly its gone for him, there was so much expectation, don’t suppose the transfer debacle helped,but that’s history now. You just can’t see him forcing a way back into the side.
Tielemans63 Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months.
Beechey Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 9 minutes ago, Paddy. said: The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months. He actually didn't play a competitive league game for like 8-9 months, he only played in January when the Portuguese league ends in May. I think it ruined his chances here.
weller54 Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 35 minutes ago, Paddy. said: The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months. This sums it up perfectly. I remember being shocked when he first played for us and thinking he looked like a little boy lost!.. And he's just continued to look that way.
Ric Flair Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 1 hour ago, Paddy. said: The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months. It staggers me how hard he's found the physicality of the game because I thought that was where he'd prosper. I watched him fleetingly in the few seasons before he joined us, and a lot of it would have been CL highlights but at times he played like a man possessed for Sporting but then again so did Slimani. I do wonder the levels you get to as a player when you are completely immersed in the club, we saw that with the level Drinkwater got to the year we won the league and it's a delicate balance between being at the perfect club in the right environment and system, where you're one of the most important players to a new club, new country, new style of play and you bomb. He's not had it easy with us, you can't even begin to imagine how frustrating and soul destroying the registration ban must have been for him. I'm not so sure it's the difference between him being successful here or not but you'd surely have seen him featuring more early on and maybe bedding in better, then who know's. He'll be back at Sporting in January on loan.
Paninistickers Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 1 hour ago, weller54 said: This sums it up perfectly. I remember being shocked when he first played for us and thinking he looked like a little boy lost!.. And he's just continued to look that way. Was just gonna post the exact same. I was staggered when he trotted on v Huddersfield on new year's day -. I knew within 10 seconds he was useless... (I like to give players a fair crack!) If your average punter can see this, how the hell can the scouts miss it?
ScouseFox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 2 hours ago, Paddy. said: The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months. not even sure i can agree with this tbh, he’s shown absolutely no signs that he is “a good player”. blaming the english game is bollocks as well, the geezer has spent almost a year repeatedly misplacing 10 yard passes and watching people run past him.
Babylon Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Was just gonna post the exact same. I was staggered when he trotted on v Huddersfield on new year's day -. I knew within 10 seconds he was useless... (I like to give players a fair crack!) If your average punter can see this, how the hell can the scouts miss it? That was his best performance, he looked bloody good for those few minutes... it's been since then that's been the problem.
Paninistickers Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 9 minutes ago, Babylon said: That was his best performance, he looked bloody good for those few minutes... it's been since then that's been the problem. He played neat Tika taka for the last 5 mins against a poor side who were already beat. His build was the striking thing as he entered the pitch. My gut feeling as he trotted on was not a good one. I was then appalled at his Fleetwood performance. And the careless passes straight out of play happen to players once or twice a season, and laughed off with a hand held up as an apology. But once or twice a game?!
Shane Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 In the summer I thought central midfield was one of our strongest positions. Now in my opinion it’s one of the weakest! We need to cut our losses on Iborra, Silva and James. In January it might be difficult to sign a quality CM, but in the summer we need someone who can slot into the first team straight away.
Beechey Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 5 minutes ago, Shane said: In the summer I thought central midfield was one of our strongest positions. Now in my opinion it’s one of the weakest! We need to cut our losses on Iborra, Silva and James. In January it might be difficult to sign a quality CM, but in the summer we need someone who can slot into the first team straight away. You are joking, our wingers are easily our weakest position. Gray, Ghezzal and Albrighton fighting with our wing back, Ricardo for 2 of our winger positions?
Shane Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 Just now, Beechey said: You are joking, our wingers are easily our weakest position. Gray, Ghezzal and Albrighton fighting with our wing back, Ricardo for 2 of our winger positions? I did say one of the weakest. Just realised we’re so weak in so many positions... not good!
Guest Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 15 minutes ago, Beechey said: You are joking, our wingers are easily our weakest position. Gray, Ghezzal and Albrighton fighting with our wing back, Ricardo for 2 of our winger positions? Wing is less problem than attack surely? Vardy or ??????? As for Silva, Maybe he'll go back to Sporting, Italy would suit him, Wolves may need him.
Beechey Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 35 minutes ago, FIF said: Wing is less problem than attack surely? Vardy or ??????? As for Silva, Maybe he'll go back to Sporting, Italy would suit him, Wolves may need him. Thing is that Vardy is going to be starting unless he's injured no matter his form - he's missed so few games over the last few seasons I see it as a smaller issue, although I still really want a striker that gets involved more.
Lovejoy Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 2 hours ago, Beechey said: You are joking, our wingers are easily our weakest position. Gray, Ghezzal and Albrighton fighting with our wing back, Ricardo for 2 of our winger positions? I'm surprised I don't see this more on the forum. Without question our weakest area. Gray has potential, but as yet doesn't deliver enough. Ricardo has done okish, but was signed as a RB/RWB. Ghezzal isn't up to speed (may never be) and Albrighton isn't an attacking player, though to give him his dues, has produced a few goals/assists when he's remembered he's not a fullback. We're woefully short in this area.
Stadt Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 For my money we've had four players that have played consistently well this season, Schmeichel, Maguire, Chilwell and Maddison. Everybody has been painful to watch at times
kyleolly Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 He’s not strong enough to play centre midfield in the premier league I’d like to see him in the number 10 role against Southampton next week could Silva and Maddison play in behind Vardy?
Suzie the Fox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 33 minutes ago, Stadt said: For my money we've had four players that have played consistently well this season, Schmeichel, Maguire, Chilwell and Maddison. Everybody has been painful to watch at times Would agree with Chilwell Kasper and Maddison but Harry has had at least one game where he was pretty meh.
Stadt Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 1 minute ago, Suzie the Fox said: Would agree with Chilwell Kasper and Maddison but Harry has had at least one game where he was pretty meh. He's still been one of our more consistent players which says a lot
murphy Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 12 hours ago, Paddy. said: The epitome of a good player who is just totally ill-suited to the English game. I still think he's a good footballer but he clearly can't cope with the pace and physicality of the English game. His international performances suggest he'd be decent in Italy or somewhere similar where the game is a bit slower and more technical. He'll probably move on and be really effective, a bit like Kramaric at Hoffenheim. Safe to say he's not been one of our better signings but you win some, you lose some. I think, if we're being honest, most of us were delighted when we signed this guy. No-one could have predicted how much he'd struggle. I still believe he never recovered from not playing for those 3 months. You could be right, he was quoted as saying that a game in England was like three games on Portugal. I just want to know why is it that if the PL is such a culture shock in terms of physicality from Europe and the Portugese League, then why have the likes of Moutinho and Neves managed to fit in so well?
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 6 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: Would agree with Chilwell Kasper and Maddison but Harry has had at least one game where he was pretty meh. Bournemouth, Everton, arsenal. 3 right there off the top of my head where he had a stinker
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 26 October 2018 Posted 26 October 2018 2 minutes ago, murphy said: You could be right, he was quoted as saying that a game in England was like three games on Portugal. I just want to know why is it that if the PL is such a culture shock in terms of physicality from Europe and the Portugese League, then why have the likes of Moutinho and Neves managed to fit in so well? Well I work in kitchens and I've had chefs work in great places then join us and they just don't seem to fit into our team, and I feel it's exactly the same in football They are human beings and have differing traits. Some adapt very well, some don't.
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