Claude Puel reaches first anniversary at Leicester - but why does he always feel so close to the sack?

[fuchsntf]

58 minutes ago, Stadt said:

The biggest frustration last season was the home form, drawing 0-0, 1-1 and losing to shit teams was the main issue. We've lost to Everton as a result of a red card, lost to a title challenger and beaten two teams we'd expect to. It's weird that if we beat West Ham all will be well again, lose and it's disaster 

That because many fans really have nothing else to bite into...the club is their lifes foil...

I said a couple of games a go we could have a 2-3 game poor run,around Arsenal...dragging us down to 14th.

The difference is I won't worry....but then again W.Ham could see us go on an incredible run...I won't get over excited.

It's where we are..!!

Maddison  is getting the headlines,pundits are liking what they see,a safe rebuilding Foxes.

I still believe..no matter how exciting it may look,we still have players including Maddiso n  who still have to earn their plaudits and

Potential...Unlike others,instead of pecking at negatives,or exploding with joy.....I am enjoying the intrigue of the redevelopement.

enjoying the twists and turns that are part of the game of football...

 

.Why make your life miserable!!! and pretend your club are now and for

always PL-beaters!!!  We are a decent mid table club...waiving between 14-8th.After the dross of being let down over 2 after title seasons,

I will be happy with a positive twist of decent to good gameday performances.higher dreams on hold because the need of starting from

scratch and taking the patience to give youth a true chance...1-2 seasons of hard tribulations,and setbacks,but hoping to an offering

of occasional top faire...sort of a mix of sweet n sour!!! Not hanging on every single game as a chance to explode into derogatives!!

 

We need Puel,and his character...Not another spanish/Italian fly by night.he accepted the thankless challenge....

Some fans,really didnt/don't understand the various phases,it will take...We saw last 2 seasons our owners are not going to

Chase 4-5x.. 30+ million players. Our recruitment even with Maddison, Pereira,and Nacho,haven't got our tastebuds running avok!!

The recruitment-team have been in fairness poor,over 3-5 seasons,with a couple of gems....

W.ham.Newcastle,three out 10s of millions over the same seasons,and have struggled...Wolves/Fulham wait n see!!

 

left a niche,for 3 bs,  Burnley,Bournemouth,Brighton,to hold and grow with snippets,and their own finds..

 

 

[Ric Flair]

24 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Might as well just sack him I’ve decided. There’s an unattainable target bring desire. Sack him, move on, have Big Sam in and just keep the train rolling 

Whats the desire to bringing in Allardyce at this moment in time? We aren't yet in danger of relegation so the requirement of a firefighter is silly. If a new manager is required at this time then you'd hope our owners and directors have done their due diligence on a longer term replacement than panicking and turning to someone like Allardyce, Moyes or heaven forbid Pulis. 

 

If we were to get rid of Puel then I'd be looking at Rodgers, Martinez or dare I even say it Wenger. These are the obvious managers that spring to mind that have a track record of developing younger players, rather than being too scared to and sticking with experience. I am sure there's more left field managers with a track record of this in Europe or the lower leagues (Chris Wilder) who could also come in to consideration. I would be horrified if we made the decision to get rid of Puel now and go for a dinosaur like Allardyce. 

[Brizzle Fox]

12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Whats the desire to bringing in Allardyce at this moment in time? We aren't yet in danger of relegation so the requirement of a firefighter is silly. If a new manager is required at this time then you'd hope our owners and directors have done their due diligence on a longer term replacement than panicking and turning to someone like Allardyce, Moyes or heaven forbid Pulis. 

 

If we were to get rid of Puel then I'd be looking at Rodgers, Martinez or dare I even say it Wenger. These are the obvious managers that spring to mind that have a track record of developing younger players, rather than being too scared to and sticking with experience. I am sure there's more left field managers with a track record of this in Europe or the lower leagues (Chris Wilder) who could also come in to consideration. I would be horrified if we made the decision to get rid of Puel now and go for a dinosaur like Allardyce. 

I think Cardiff Fix may have been joking...well I hope so anyway!

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

I think Cardiff Fix may have been joking...well I hope so anyway!

Hahahaha I'm embarrassed I may have missed that jest, thinking about it now it's got to have been a joke. Disgusting from me that is, my sincere apologies. 

[ousefox]

There is nothing exciting about the guy. Lose to the good teams, win against the shit teams, and average amount of points against those in the middle.

 

Midtable mediocrity with no ambition or fight. Keep him until the end of the season and then get rid - what we should have done last season.

 

????

[Corky]

5 hours ago, Stadt said:

I've defended Puel a lot, now I don't really care. I'd even go as far as saying I don't like him, I don't dislike him either but the constant over the top comments in here are what rile the balanced posters. Every issue with club or the squad isn't solely attributed to Puel, the game should have been won in the first half, Puel can't put the ball in the net himself. The second half he made some questionable decisions and I don't think he adjusts well in games but only so much is in his hands.

Pretty much this. I won't shed a tear if he leaves but some of the comments in here are odd. "If you take out the wins we're still losing" being the highlight but the "we're going backwards" I don't quite get unless we're going backwards from his own good start which was also a trait under Shakespeare and that is a concern as managers are starting well then not continuing.

 

I think far more of the criticism of Puel has been personal which I don't agree with too. He'll go at some point and hopefully the next man is better but I feel, like Pearson, we're going to debate the man long after he's gone.

[Bozman]

6 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Who?  Last nights Ref?   He should be binned off immediately for not applying the laws of the game.  Had that decision gone the way it should have,  people would not be berating Puel today.   Fine margins football and this game was influenced fundamentally by an incompetent oaf and I am not referring to Puel. 

 

We are all miffed and upset at the moment but need to get real about last night. 

 

 

 

Won 4 lost 5..... that is not progress... We could have played  a team that included  king, albrighton , simpson ,fuchs, okizaki  from the start of the season and done better..

 We have nothing on the bench to change a game and no plan B , Remember it's just my opinion which i'm entitled to..Lose to west ham he will be the one binned off..

 

[leicesterseddon]

For me, his ever-precarious position among our fans is probably down to a combination of:

 

1. Heightened expectations after the 2016 title win

2. Little credit in the bank due to perceived lack of 'charisma'

3. His record in England (i.e. at Southampton)

4. Poor tactical decisions, particularly second half substitutions

5. Perpetual tinkering with the team, formation and tactics

6. A propensity to sit back once ahead 

7. Perception he is not winning a dressing room battle with big names (e.g. Morgan)

 

In my book, it's fair to blame him for 4,5, 6 and arguably 7, although that one is a bit complicated. 

 

However in some ways he's been a victim of 1, whilst we should really try to look past 2 and 3 a bit more IMO.  

[Leicesterpool]

His brand of football is just putting fans of and his limited communication with press and the fans, it's difficult to get on his side or see his vision. Claudio used to always have a bit of a laugh and joke with the reporters and when it came to fans, he always made a heart felt thanks to supporters for their support and always made clear it was a key factor in Leicester's success. Shakespeare always a popular character before hand and always felt the fans were more lenient towards him. Going back to Pearson he wasn't particular great with either fans or the press, he was private individual who wasn't particular one for socialising, but to be fair Pearson at the end of the day got result that shut everybody up and if he did speak he would just say "well we won, who cares how we played!".

 

For me to be success you must get fans on your side, so far I've seen nothing from Claude to even attempt that. I just never get how someone can get a job in management in England who struggles to speak basic English. I mean if we can't understand him, how on earth can the players?

 

 

 

Edited 23 October 2018 by Leicesterpool

[yks]

21 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

I mean if we can't understand him, how on earth can the players?

If you can't understand him, the problem clearly comes from you.

[OhYesNdidi]

1 hour ago, ousefox said:

There is nothing exciting about the guy. Lose to the good teams, win against the shit teams, and average amount of points against those in the middle.

 

Midtable mediocrity with no ambition or fight. Keep him until the end of the season and then get rid - what we should have done last season.

 

????

No fight? You’ve just watched a team with no fight only 2 years ago under Claudio. It’s nothing like that now. 

[OhYesNdidi]

15 minutes ago, yks said:

If you can't understand him, the problem clearly comes from you.

His English is comparable to Claudio’s if you watch his pressers back. Just another stick too beat him with. Someone said he tinkered to much, hasn’t he played the same team 5 games in a row now? (Bar Wes due to suspension). 

Edited 23 October 2018 by OhYesNdidi

[TheUltimateWinner]

 

 

Puel ****ing in!!!!

[Stadt]

36 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

who struggles to speak basic English

Well that blatantly isn’t true. His English is fine, the delivery is a bit boring but he’s clearly fluent. As for the “having a laugh” yesterday he said Vardy “went off because he couldn’t digest the penalty decision” or something like that when asked about going off. He made a joke about Maguire going to Manchester before we played them too.

 

Coaching is completely different to a press conference, in a press conference every word will be typed up and scrutinised by journalists and fans so he’s obviousky going to be a bit more guarded. I think his press conferences are boring too but I simply remember I’m an adult and I don’t care about listening to them 

[mozartfox]

1 hour ago, Bozman said:

Won 4 lost 5..... that is not progress... We could have played  a team that included  king, albrighton , simpson ,fuchs, okizaki  from the start of the season and done better..

 We have nothing on the bench to change a game and no plan B , Remember it's just my opinion which i'm entitled to..Lose to west ham he will be the one binned off..

 

We will have to wait until Saturday to see if your prediction comes true.  By the way, your claim we have nothing on the bench to change a game is a bit odd as last night it included 3 of the 5 you mention would do better than the current crop.

[ousefox]

11 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said:

No fight? You’ve just watched a team with no fight only 2 years ago under Claudio. It’s nothing like that now. 

It is not that different to Claudio's second season at all. Maybe a bit more dull even if we are getting slightly better results.

[Babylon]

29 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

We will have to wait until Saturday to see if your prediction comes true.  By the way, your claim we have nothing on the bench to change a game is a bit odd as last night it included 3 of the 5 you mention would do better than the current crop.

Zinger!

[Babylon]

29 minutes ago, ousefox said:

It is not that different to Claudio's second season at all. Maybe a bit more dull even if we are getting slightly better results.

It took until the 31st December to win 5 games... we are already on 4! I think people have blanked out how utterly shit we have been since the league win.

[OhYesNdidi]

44 minutes ago, ousefox said:

It is not that different to Claudio's second season at all. Maybe a bit more dull even if we are getting slightly better results.

Massively different. Not sure people realise how bad we were under Claudio. 

[CosbehFox]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Whats the desire to bringing in Allardyce at this moment in time? We aren't yet in danger of relegation so the requirement of a firefighter is silly. If a new manager is required at this time then you'd hope our owners and directors have done their due diligence on a longer term replacement than panicking and turning to someone like Allardyce, Moyes or heaven forbid Pulis. 

 

If we were to get rid of Puel then I'd be looking at Rodgers, Martinez or dare I even say it Wenger. These are the obvious managers that spring to mind that have a track record of developing younger players, rather than being too scared to and sticking with experience. I am sure there's more left field managers with a track record of this in Europe or the lower leagues (Chris Wilder) who could also come in to consideration. I would be horrified if we made the decision to get rid of Puel now and go for a dinosaur like Allardyce. 

My tongue is firmly in my cheek when suggesting Big Sam. You first paragraph sums it up, there’s no danger of relegation so why change ? 

 

There’s no football expertise at LCFC which ever makes me trust their manager selection. I can’t see them following up a left field selection or having the ambition to attract a Martinez/Wenger. It will be a Big Sam or some other rent-a-40 points. Rudkin was of course advocating the replacement of Pearson with Neil Lennon 

[justfoxes]

My biggest moan really is that we blow so hot and cold sometimes takes us 15min to get warmed up and start playing and at other times alike the Arsenal game where we came sprinting out at the whistle totally dominating for the first 20minutes or so then fading, but why can’t we keep up the flowing football why can’t we stop making silly mistakes is it the CP factor or is it that we just can’t keep up with the pace of a quick start and tire far too quickly ?

 

It seems at times CP doesn’t really know what his best 11 are or even what is the best formation to play, a big moan from some are that we paid big bucks for Benkovic and CP sends him on loan even before he’s kicked a ball for us and he seems to be enjoying his time up there and putting in some solid performances of what we could do with in defence.

Soyuncu hasn’t even been given a chance as yet so we do t really know what he can do, then there’s Ghezzal a cracking goal in the cup game but he’s another signing that’s not exactly living up to his so called potential. Maddison is another player who’s shown bags of potential but he can’t seem to last more than the 65minute mark is that due to fitness or still getting used to the pace of the EPL?

 

But there’s many a foxes fan who’s calling for CP’s head is it justified is he the right man to fulfill the owners ambition, he’s had a year now some say he’s on schedule others just hate the fact the guy is still in his job how long is he going to last before the owners have had enough like a lot of Leicester fans one thing is tho he can’t help the substandard officials in the Premier who blatantly miss such damning mistakes like handballs diving etc which go against us ?

 

We’ve seen some great performances from the lads during his tenure but is that enough to satisfy most fans just going to be a wait and see game, if we lose against  West Spam will that be another nail in his coffin have the owners got someone already to take the helm who knows ?

 

But whilst he still is the manager of Leicester City let’s just get behind him and the lads and show our continued loyal   Support of the team we all love no one ever said supporting Leicester city was going to be easy definitely a rollercoaster of emotions !!

 

 

 

 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Some are forgetting those truly embarrassing performances post our PL win when the players treated the ball like a hot potato. We could not string a pass together never mind two in many games.

 

As Monday, at least for 35 minutes, showed we are developing as a passing side that can now play some flowing football at reasonable pace. We looked a very good footballing team. That seemingly has come through Puel. Never once was that apparent under Shaky who - understandably perhaps bearing in mind his experience -  tried to revert to the almost wholly counter-attacking style of the PL winning season. However without Kante and a fit Drinkwater that wasn't possible and other sides had sussed us by dropping deeper anyway.

 

Puel's 'problem' seems to be getting the team to remain concentrated and disciplined in keeping their shape throughout - perhaps that is tactical at times in changing formation? - and to retain confidence, especially when there has been a setback. We lack on field leaders which was all too obvious after the break at Arsenal when we fell apart and looked lost. He does also appear stubborn and a bit slow to react at times. 

 

I still think we need to persist with him for now and give him time to develop a team. His track record in France shows he is capable of that. The constant off field pressure can't help him. Yes, he too needs to develop to address his own deficiencies and poor buys haven't helped. But I think some of our expectations are somewhat unrealistic at the moment. 

Edited 24 October 2018 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[superfox1980]

I think Puel is most definitely marmite both with us as Leicester fans and in the media.

 

i admire what it appears he’s trying to do. Bring young players through the system or buying young talent in from elsewhere.. Monday only 2 survivors from the league winning team. He’s had to rebuild plus get rid of a lot of mediccore players bought by CR. 

 

But you to have to question his methods.. Maddison wide left - doesn’t work. Mendy & wilf in middle again doesn’t work for me, it’s one of the other. We need someone to get the ball, like Iborra. Big, tall and can pick a pass. 

 

In in desperate need of a righ back. Ricardo can’t defend, amartey is shocking at best. Gives me the jip every time the ball goes near him. 

 

The team lacks identity.  What are we aiming for? Really in danger of losing our best players this summer as well.  Maguire and chilwell will have a lot of interest the rest are average at best. Losing Mahrez and replacing him with some guy that couldn’t get a game for Monaco says an awful lot.. 

 

Our club is is going backwards unfortunately. Not Claude’s fault really but it needs someone to grab it buy the horns and take it forwards. He’s not the man to bring success that I think we should be aiming now with our financial position and still reletive pulling power of the other 13/14 teams in the league.. 

[UPinCarolina]

Sack Puel and we’ll be back in the Championship in 2 years. I truly believe that. We’re not as attractive as we think to new signings - we need to develop what we’ve got. 

[Hanan96]

2 hours ago, superfox1980 said:

I think Puel is most definitely marmite both with us as Leicester fans and in the media.

 

i admire what it appears he’s trying to do. Bring young players through the system or buying young talent in from elsewhere.. Monday only 2 survivors from the league winning team. He’s had to rebuild plus get rid of a lot of mediccore players bought by CR. 

 

But you to have to question his methods.. Maddison wide left - doesn’t work. Mendy & wilf in middle again doesn’t work for me, it’s one of the other. We need someone to get the ball, like Iborra. Big, tall and can pick a pass. 

 

In in desperate need of a righ back. Ricardo can’t defend, amartey is shocking at best. Gives me the jip every time the ball goes near him. 

 

The team lacks identity.  What are we aiming for? Really in danger of losing our best players this summer as well.  Maguire and chilwell will have a lot of interest the rest are average at best. Losing Mahrez and replacing him with some guy that couldn’t get a game for Monaco says an awful lot.. 

 

Our club is is going backwards unfortunately. Not Claude’s fault really but it needs someone to grab it buy the horns and take it forwards. He’s not the man to bring success that I think we should be aiming now with our financial position and still reletive pulling power of the other 13/14 teams in the league.. 

This post is worth reading. Especially for puel out fans. 

He wrote a genuine critics, not one which biased, inconsistent, or just wrote another thing which didn't tried yet. Good insight here. 

 

While not everything might be true, but the intention were shown. 

 

Now I think there's something I disagree. Maddison aren't wide player past 3 match. He listed as left winger, but practically he played in half space, the same space he spend most often when he's listed as no 10 with 2 winger beside him anyway. The difference is during defensive scheme, he defend wide areas. 

 

In arsenal game, his role changed howewer.he's now free role. Lot of time he's on the left, right, both half space, roaming everywhere freely. 

 

About right back I didnt think we desperately need one. Amartey and Ricardo are both imperfect, but still could improving. Age are at their side, also this is the first epl season they regularly play right side defence. We could evaluate this again towards Christmas wheter we really need or not

 

And regardless of ghezzal, there is 2 problem. We lost some of our right wing target like jahanbakash. He's signed late in transfer window after we lost those target. Also, with our leftover budget, which winger we could brought in?