Puel 'Facing the sack' - reports

[Nick]

The Mighty Plymouth Herald are saying there’s some fans that want him gone...

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwim1dHS3dvfAhUGuRoKHdLjAngQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plymouthherald.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fleicester-city-fans-want-claude-2400771&psig=AOvVaw3Cu8mjWsavzth-CLMubpUC&ust=1546952599400806

[Finnegan]

35 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I don't think its even about resting players. Its more about giving minutes and opportunities to squad players who don't get much football. Then its down to those players to see it as an opportunity to perform and maybe keep a place or to see it as punishment and play half-arsed.

 

Its a balance in the early rounds, problem we have is our squad player replacements for our best players are garbage. I understand Vardy being left out and he probably should've been on the bench to bring on if needed but we are clearly managing his groin and taking no risks.

 

Let's be fair, it's been made clear to Fuchs, Simpson, James and King they don't have much future, Shinji more or less knows he's been fazed out now and Diabate was dropped like a stone. 

 

Very few of the team he put out had anything to really play for. You'd have had a more motivated team if you played a bunch of young u23s who might actually believe Puel would promote them to the match day squad and who don't need to be registered to play in the Premier league. 

 

 

[PoshhFox]

3 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

And Big Wes says it’s not Puel’s fault...

 

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I like how he says it was the magic of the cup ‘that happened’

 

sound excuse if you ever get beat by lower opposition 

[Wdywd]

3 minutes ago, ThaiFox said:

As I said before, it is Puel's fault that we haven't got any decent back up strikers, as it's obvious to us all the Okazaki is long past it and Nacho is just nowhere near good enough and should be sold ASAP.

 

Even this I'm not sure about. It took us ages to ship out Slimani in the summer and we already had £25m or whatever Iheanacho who they must have wanted more from, I dunno how much money there was to sign another striker.

 

I think his biggest mistake might be that he's flirted a bit with Gray as a striker and it hasn't really worked. Maybe he thought he could play up front more and it's not turned out that way.

[Stoopid]

Can't believe Puel didn't pass a message to Albrighton when he put him at right-back;

'Listen Marc, whatever you do, don't try and stop a cross with your elbows in the area - especially if we've just got back in the game...'

With managerial blindness like that, no wonder we lost!

[Beliall]

13 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Let's be fair, it's been made clear to Fuchs, Simpson, James and King they don't have much future, Shinji more or less knows he's been fazed out now and Diabate was dropped like a stone. 

 

Very few of the team he put out had anything to really play for. You'd have had a more motivated team if you played a bunch of young u23s who might actually believe Puel would promote them to the match day squad and who don't need to be registered to play in the Premier league. 

 

 

exactly. baffling selection. drives me bonkers why we throw the cup away every year

[Haywood_6]

13 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Let's be fair, it's been made clear to Fuchs, Simpson, James and King they don't have much future, Shinji more or less knows he's been fazed out now and Diabate was dropped like a stone. 

 

Very few of the team he put out had anything to really play for. You'd have had a more motivated team if you played a bunch of young u23s who might actually believe Puel would promote them to the match day squad and who don't need to be registered to play in the Premier league. 

 

 

They should have a Men vs Boys game, i bet our u23's could beat the team we had last night. 

[Jon the Hat]

25 minutes ago, Al-aLondon-Foxile said:

The best post I've read on here for ages. I agree 100% 

No, you are wrong.  This post is logical, well thought out and makes sense.  It has no place in an emotional game like Football, which does none of the above.  Koke OUT!!

[Monsell1976]

I’m bored of the puel out, it’s not happening when we are where we are in the league.

 To keep it interesting we are 111 pages into the out thread, I think he will be sacked on page 219 ? 

[Babylon]

12 minutes ago, ThaiFox said:

Excellent post.

 

There is no question in my mind the team we put out yesterday were more than good enough to win that game.

 

It wasn't Puel's fault that Morgan, our captain and P/L/ winner, was out positioned and out jumped by a 4th division striker, or that Albrighton had a brain fart, or we missed at least 10 good chances.

 

As I said before, it is Puel's fault that we haven't got any decent back up strikers, as it's obvious to us all the Okazaki is long past it and Nacho is just nowhere near good enough and should be sold ASAP.

 

That said, I still think Puel is over achieving with this squad.

He inherited Slimani, Musa, Okazaki, Iheanacho, Ulloa.... realistically none of which are the quality of backup we actually require. He could have kept some of the others, but they are still likely to have not been good enough. About £90m worth of players, that nobody considers good enough any more.

 

It's not easy to vanish all of these players in effectively one transfer window, whilst strengthening other areas that we were desperate for, and buying a top quality striker. He's got a budget to stick to, it's not fantasy football. He'll be absolutely desperate to dump about a dozen of our squad, but it's a long process.

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

They should have a Men vs Boys game, i bet our u23's could beat the team we had last night. 

How do the under 23's get on in the Johnson's paint trophy or whatever it's called now? They actually won a single game yet?

[Monsell1976]

19 minutes ago, ThaiFox said:

Excellent post.

 

There is no question in my mind the team we put out yesterday were more than good enough to win that game.

 

It wasn't Puel's fault that Morgan, our captain and P/L/ winner, was out positioned and out jumped by a 4th division striker, or that Albrighton had a brain fart, or we missed at least 10 good chances.

 

As I said before, it is Puel's fault that we haven't got any decent back up strikers, as it's obvious to us all the Okazaki is long past it and Nacho is just nowhere near good enough and should be sold ASAP.

 

That said, I still think Puel is over achieving with this squad.

Okazaki past it, he scored was 5 goals when we won the league, or there abouts, Okazaki isn’t a very good striker end of.

[john ridley]

Think the Plymouth Herald chap was spot on ,lack of respect  again for a cup competition. Once we start to slip from 7th then he'll have  nothing to cling to,fvcked another season up,and still people  will defend him .

[FrankieADZ]

38 minutes ago, Koke said:

Puel's work here so far is so underrated.

 

At no point have we ever been anywhere near relegation battle under him (in fact, he took us from 17th to 9th after taking over from Shakespeare). He has brought down the average age of the starting 11 and he has identified the players who need to be moved on. The football in terms of entertainment is about 6/10 but the results and league position is 8/10. Overall Puel is a net positive for LCFC. The next window(s) several players will be moved on, some out of contract and some surplus to requirements. On top of that the purse will be tightened due to stadium expansion. Puel is here to oversee a big important transition phase for the club and he is doing a good job so far.

 

Puel has made mistakes (better managers at bigger clubs make errors as well) but the lack of intelligent critique of him is spectacular. The abuse he gets is shocking.

great post tbh, I agree with you there his work has been underrated so far, 

we are in a stable position atm, a Jekyll and Hyde army a bit too much for me atm but hopefully we'll get more consistent.

i sometimes wonder what all the reasons are some of our fans want him out(im neither puel in or out), i know the football isnt always great to watch but we are 7th atm,

would they prefer entertaining football and be 17th in the league probably not

 

and you cant defend either player or manager yesterday imo

 

 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

4 minutes ago, john ridley said:

Think the Plymouth Herald chap was spot on ,lack of respect  again for a cup competition. Once we start to slip from 7th then he'll have  nothing to cling to,fvcked another season up,and still people  will defend him .

Personally think he is a knob

 

Mentions that premier league teams in general dont také it seriously then goes on to be oddly enraged that Puel has done what everyone else is doing, what they are likely told to do by their board

 

Could have written an article questioning why this happens and discussing that, but that was too much effort for him so he rides the Puel out train

 

I remember Shearer last year or so saying that the only way to get clubs interested would be maybe to put loads of money in as prizes, but that either wont happen or work.  Pundits play both sides when it suits them

 

[Fosse93]

14 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Can't believe Puel didn't pass a message to Albrighton when he put him at right-back;

'Listen Marc, whatever you do, don't try and stop a cross with your elbows in the area - especially if we've just got back in the game...'

With managerial blindness like that, no wonder we lost!

Putting Marc at right back was an odd decision though.

 

He was our biggest threat going forward at that time in the match.

 

I would have taken Ghezzal off, yes yes I know he scored but Albrighton also gave away the penalty away as a result of the position change.

[Babylon]

45 minutes ago, Koke said:

Puel's work here so far is so underrated.

 

At no point have we ever been anywhere near relegation battle under him (in fact, he took us from 17th to 9th after taking over from Shakespeare). He has brought down the average age of the starting 11 and he has identified the players who need to be moved on. The football in terms of entertainment is about 6/10 but the results and league position is 8/10. Overall Puel is a net positive for LCFC. The next window(s) several players will be moved on, some out of contract and some surplus to requirements. On top of that the purse will be tightened due to stadium expansion. Puel is here to oversee a big important transition phase for the club and he is doing a good job so far.

 

Puel has made mistakes (better managers at bigger clubs make errors as well) but the lack of intelligent critique of him is spectacular. The abuse he gets is shocking.

[TonyN11]

15 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Can't believe Puel didn't pass a message to Albrighton when he put him at right-back;

'Listen Marc, whatever you do, don't try and stop a cross with your elbows in the area - especially if we've just got back in the game...'

With managerial blindness like that, no wonder we lost!

Or maybe Puel told him to play right back like Amartey. He'd never play the ball with his arm in the penalty area  

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

10 minutes ago, TonyN11 said:

 

.Or maybe Puel told him to play right back like Amartey. He'd never play the ball with his arm in the penalty area  

No point now bitching about the result, players, Puel etc. It's happened, and that's it. Accept it, get over it and get a life.

 

The above is not aimed at you, by the way.

[STUHILL]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Yes and you're presuming we'd win the cup, when in reality we'd likely just get drawn against a massive team and lose. Like we have done for 135 years.

A massive team such as Chelsea or Man City who we beat a matter of days ago in a competition they are taking more seriously? 

 

What miserable Christmas presents you must have had to have such low expectations for us! 

 

 

[Dorkingfox]

The problem with Puel is that it is a Catch 22 situation, changing the manager could make the situation much worse and keeping him is an unknown, will it be better or worse than it is now?

He needs to stay until the end of the season then he can be judged by where we finish and how he prepares the players and the team until then. Also how he gets on in the current transfer window. Some of the games have been poor, in fact turgid and some have been very good.

The cups games have been very disappointing, but we do not know if this was a plan by the club as a whole, to try to get as far up the league as possible without further distractions?

7^th is way above where we normally fish in this league or the old div one, so we are actually improving even if it may not feel like it. We need him to try to win as many games as possible to keep the rest of the season interesting. When the season ends then the club management can decide what to do before the summer transfers start.

[Stoopid]

5 minutes ago, Fosse93 said:

Putting Marc at right back was an odd decision though.

 

He was our biggest threat going forward at that time in the match.

 

I would have taken Ghezzal off, yes yes I know he scored but Albrighton also gave away the penalty away as a result of the position change.

Yeah - but my point really is you can't legislate against individual stupidity. I agree Albrighton played ok, but whether or not he should have been back there, he really shouldn't have thrown his arms up like that,

If he hadn't, we'd have got a replay and the narrative on here would be very different.

But he did..

[Tuna]

37 minutes ago, ThaiFox said:

As I said before, it is Puel's fault that we haven't got any decent back up strikers, as it's obvious to us all the Okazaki is long past it and Nacho is just nowhere near good enough and should be sold ASAP.

Puel doesn't sort the transfers himself. Maybe we were in for someone and it wasn't done? Remember we had a short transfer window and world cup.

 

Ulloa and Slimani went around the same time, around the time the window closed and we were left short. Both probably not part of his plans but would have featured at some point like Simpson has.

[Dahnsouff]

Seems to me that Puel first prioritsed the defence - looks like job done 

Guess we will see whats next, maybe now a forward + Barnes recall.

[Foxes1]

46 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

The Mighty Plymouth Herald are saying there’s some fans that want him gone...

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwim1dHS3dvfAhUGuRoKHdLjAngQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plymouthherald.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fleicester-city-fans-want-claude-2400771&psig=AOvVaw3Cu8mjWsavzth-CLMubpUC&ust=1546952599400806

How about you then Wes you didn't win the header for the first goal and you are the captain on the pitch didn't seem to know how to motivate the players that is your job.