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Could a former player do the job?

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For the record, I don't think Puel is going anywhere soon so this is hypothetical.

 

I do sometimes wonder if an appointment from "within" would ever work for us.

 

You see United under Solskjaer. On paper you'd say he wouldn't warrant a job like that but a man who knows the club and its values and will get the fans onside no matter what.

 

A bit more trickier for us in the sense we aren't blessed with a history of former players going into management. But would a Neil Lennon or Esteban Cambiasso be worth a punt for example? The former was linked with us after Pearson

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I think we need to get someone for the future. To work with the youth team now and promote internally when there is a chance. Happened with Pep and Zidane amongst many others.

 

Someone to understand the club from top to bottom before taking the reins.

Posted
1 minute ago, HankMarvin said:

Yes get Ade badbuy back as manager to make nacho feel less shit 

 

except didn’t he have a better scoring record for us than Nacho has?

Posted

What does "knows the club" mean? What tangible benefit does it bring? Ian Holloway knows the club, Peter Taylor knows the club, Joe Mattock knows the club. I hate the phrase.

 

Because a former player knows where the training ground is already doesn't help them manage.

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13 minutes ago, shailen said:

I think we need to get someone for the future. To work with the youth team now and promote internally when there is a chance. Happened with Pep and Zidane amongst many others.

 

Someone to understand the club from top to bottom before taking the reins.

 

We aren’t Barcelona or Real Madrid. Any top talent coming through could well be off a couple of years after breaking through. Also we aren’t blessed with the pool of youngsters that they are either. They bring through future stars frequently, we’re lucky to have one or two that make the grade. 

 

Different ball game and completely incomparable. 

Posted

Hard to judge solskajer yet. We didn't know wheter they are still on manager bounce or really good. Mourinho deliver them euro Cup win in his first season before. 

Shakespeare got us 9th then closely going towards relegation the next season. 

Zidane and guardiola were good but they got world class player as well. There are another sides like Seedorf and Gatusso

 

Btw didn't shakey around our team for so long before eventually managing our team? Former player might not offer much advantage over that

Posted

Solskajer has had an easy ride with the games he's had so not a relevant indication as to whether former players could do a good job, by the way why aren't the media calling the players out like they did ours, because they loved Ranieri and hated Mourinho. 

 

Short answer no.

 

Posted

Neil Lennon. Are people so desperate to get rid of Puel we've descended to Neil Lennon. Good god.

 

Notwithstanding that the club is almost unrecognisable in every conceivable way than when Lennon left 18 years, there's also the issue about fans. Don't think for a second that the short termist mob faction we have supporting our club wouldn't turn on anyone, however legendary, if things didn't go well.

 

Don't also assume Lennon or any other ex player wouldn't disappear onto bigger and better things if he had one season of success. These things work both ways.

 

We're now reaching fantasyland, aren't we? Any scenario, any straw to clutch. Don't people get tired of talking or shoehorning negative things about the current manager? 

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6 hours ago, TK95 said:

For the record, I don't think Puel is going anywhere soon so this is hypothetical.

 

I do sometimes wonder if an appointment from "within" would ever work for us.

 

You see United under Solskjaer. On paper you'd say he wouldn't warrant a job like that but a man who knows the club and its values and will get the fans onside no matter what.

 

A bit more trickier for us in the sense we aren't blessed with a history of former players going into management. But would a Neil Lennon or Esteban Cambiasso be worth a punt for example? The former was linked with us after Pearson

Not a former player but we hired from within with Shakespeare and it didn't go to well. Cambiasso doesn't have the managerial experience and Lennon is an absolute no no. Same with Gary Rowett whos the only other former player i can think of managing at a highish level. Solskjaer is a rare case as i dont actually think hes a good manager, he proved that at cardiff, hes just been thrown into a situation where he cant really lose. He has inherited a talented squad who just weren't playing for Jose and other than allowing them to attack more, hes probably not really done alot to change things. Hes also had the new manager bounce, so will be interesting to see if he carries on doing well. But hypothetically speaking, as you say, we would need to be struggling towards the bottom of the league for puel to go, so that would pose a completely different challenge to say Lennon or Esteban than the challenge being faced by Solskjaer. Ole has no pressure as he knows whatever happens he can just go straight back to his job at Molde and if he didnt do well, people would blame Jose anyway. 

Posted

Christ Almighty.

 

Next thread:

 

"Could a whiney, pessimistic Foxestalk poster do the job?"

 

Some of you probably actually think you can. 7th in the Prem, come back and make these threads if we fall closer to relegation, not the title. Pathetic. 

Posted

I guess it'll have to be Wes next season then. I wonder if he'll make himself player manager?

Posted

To be honest I don’t think there’s anyone better than Puel at the moment, certainly not an ex player of ours. The situation at Man U is much different with Oli as they have an embarrassment of riches whilst we just have an embarrassment. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Stadt said:

 

 

Because a former player knows where the training ground is already doesn't help them manage.

Best implement this soon then. Not many ex players will have a fvcking clue where the training ground is soon lol lol lol

Posted
7 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

We aren’t Barcelona or Real Madrid. Any top talent coming through could well be off a couple of years after breaking through. Also we aren’t blessed with the pool of youngsters that they are either. They bring through future stars frequently, we’re lucky to have one or two that make the grade. 

 

Different ball game and completely incomparable. 

Agreed we don't have the youth academies of those clubs - but we are producing some good quality players.

 

We need someone to spot these guys early, teach them to play in a certain style of play and they will then adapt to this system at youth level.

 

Then we have a core squad that understands the style of play and the manager which then needs to be mixed with experienced players that the manager wants.

Posted

First off we are Leicester City, we don’t have a rich culture  and history at the heart of the club. We don’t have a style or demand certain things from our players other than giving a shit.

 

Secondly we don’t have a wealth of former players managing at a decent level. Maybe Mancini’s 4 game spell on loan had a really significant impact on him.

 

Thirdly there are many more examples of players returning as managers and damaging their legacy than succeeding. Shearer, Henry, Pearce at Forest twice, Dougie Freedman at Palace and Forest. Freedman actually did ok at Palace but then pissed everyone off by leaving them for Bolton.

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