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Ben Chilwell's Message for Leicester Fans

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

No, booing is a pretty pointless thing during games as it could well effect the players and I find it pathetic anyway but it is to be expected. I dont necessarily agree with the party line that we have to be some sort of hopeless fanatic who is emotionless to the dross we have had to repeatedly endure for 13 months. 

 

I on occasion will loudly sigh, swear and get frustrated at the match as it unfolds but singling out players or the manager is stupid whilst the game is on. A loud chorus of boos at the end has and will continue to happen in football for eternity, and if theres ever the appropriate time to vent your feelings its then.

 

 

Was just messing (hence the :ph34r: emoji) as you'd said that Chilly had improved after he had his critics... 

Posted
1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Wasnt just a pint. Four players very publicly were drinking in London before three of them started less than 48 hours before a game (around 36 hrs) 

2 whole pints?

Posted
3 minutes ago, HoustonFox said:

Was just messing (hence the :ph34r: emoji) as you'd said that Chilly had improved after he had his critics... 

Haha sorry mate

Posted
6 hours ago, That_Dude said:

From what I didn't read, the lad clearly lacks ambition and is showing an outrageous disrespect towards the LCFC fans.

your comment says more about you than ben, and I don't mean that in a good way.

Posted
9 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

your comment says more about you than ben, and I don't mean that in a good way.

Read his first five words carefully... 

Posted
28 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

says the man whose never been to a leicester game

Before you was born...and many years after..Must admit last season was my last live game!!

 

Then again try and get a ticket for disabled,without membership!!!and 2000yrs waiting list!!!

Posted
5 hours ago, That_Dude said:

When you look at the team's average team you won't find much experienced pros anymore, aside from Vardy and Kasper, maybe that's why. He's clearly going for the youth and they're the future of the club. So I'd rather see them come out than the old guard which time is now counted.

It is good to see youngsters coming through, though I feel the rapid disregard for the old pros who helped win the league only a few seasons ago is a mistake. Ferguson was great to introduce youngsters at Man Utd, but he never completely changes the team every two seasons.

 

I feel we have dismantled the title winning team too quickly. There must have been something in that team right? Also, we owe it to them to let them play a bit more given the success they gave us and that we are meant to be a family club that made us bond better and more unique. I am concerned that if we change the old guard too quickly, we will lose the essence of what made us special, what all the players have said about the unique bond we have in the dressing room, and then we become just like any other club.  Fans need to get behind this as well and don’t always call for new faces to come in.  Doing so will fundamentally change what Leicester has been about and we will lose our special winning mentality that came from the boys being like a ban of brothers. The treatment of King and the rapid degradation of Fuchs have been hard to see in this light. We need to absolutely keep Vardy, Kasper and Albrington for a while until the youngsters and newbies that come through are ingrained with the Leicester way.

Posted

Farcical that a player has had to come out and plead with the fans to support the team whilst we sit comfortably midtable during a time of transition with the young players we have. 

 

Embarrassing, quite frankly, and a pretty dark mark against our fan base considering the things the club has endured this year. 

 

People should be ashamed of themselves. 

Posted

Booing really did mess us up on Sunday, Iheanacho thought he was playing for the away side after his reception so he decided to clear our corners for them lol

Posted

The fans boo as if we’re in a crisis! We’re in transition with a squad nearly cleared of dead wood that no one else would take on due to high wages and that should be complete this summer with the vast amount out of contract. We’ve upgraded Simpson massively with Ricardo. Highlighted we only have sideways CM and cleared out 3 and bought in tieliemans to solve that problem be it temporarily for now. We give youth a chance and no doubt we’ll have Che Adams to call upon up top to push vardy. 

Posted
7 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said:

I’m not saying there’s a lack of effort. I do think they are playing the way they’re told to though. There’s a clear game plan, it’s just not a great entertaining one. It’s slow and rather than take a chance we just recycle the play. 

I don't think it's what they're  told to do if you watch how frustrated Puel gets in the technical area. The game plan in any case is to win,  not entertain. I know it's controversial and upsetting but if entertainment is the motive, then perhaps some people are better off just spending their money going to the pictures. Football is a competitive multi million pound sport and business and when your cheaper less talented side is pitted against a much expensively put together better talented side, you employ certain tactics,with what you've got, to either draw with or beat the opposition. That's it. Any entertainment is a haphazard coincidental side product. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

I feel we have dismantled the title winning team too quickly. There must have been something in that team right?

Yes there was.
Kanté, Mahrez and a not 32 yo vardy.

Posted
2 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

It is good to see youngsters coming through, though I feel the rapid disregard for the old pros who helped win the league only a few seasons ago is a mistake. Ferguson was great to introduce youngsters at Man Utd, but he never completely changes the team every two seasons.

 

I feel we have dismantled the title winning team too quickly. There must have been something in that team right? Also, we owe it to them to let them play a bit more given the success they gave us and that we are meant to be a family club that made us bond better and more unique. I am concerned that if we change the old guard too quickly, we will lose the essence of what made us special, what all the players have said about the unique bond we have in the dressing room, and then we become just like any other club.  Fans need to get behind this as well and don’t always call for new faces to come in.  Doing so will fundamentally change what Leicester has been about and we will lose our special winning mentality that came from the boys being like a ban of brothers. The treatment of King and the rapid degradation of Fuchs have been hard to see in this light. We need to absolutely keep Vardy, Kasper and Albrington for a while until the youngsters and newbies that come through are ingrained with the Leicester way.

I disagree. Vardy, Kasper and Albrighton have rightly kept their places in the 1st team but the other members of the title winning squad, other than the ones that left for bigger clubs, aren't good enough anymore. Fuchs is not as good as chilwell, Simpson isn't as good as Ricardo and Morgan has only kept his place until recently because Evans has struggled with fitness. King may have been treated badly, i dont know the full story of whats happened, but he also is not good enough anymore. Whilst i have huge respect and admiration for all the title winning squad, that doesn't mean they should all still be regular first team players at our club. Whilst Puel has his faults, phasing out some of our older players to make way for younger talent is not one of them!

Posted
2 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

It is good to see youngsters coming through, though I feel the rapid disregard for the old pros who helped win the league only a few seasons ago is a mistake. Ferguson was great to introduce youngsters at Man Utd, but he never completely changes the team every two seasons.

 

I feel we have dismantled the title winning team too quickly. There must have been something in that team right? Also, we owe it to them to let them play a bit more given the success they gave us and that we are meant to be a family club that made us bond better and more unique. I am concerned that if we change the old guard too quickly, we will lose the essence of what made us special, what all the players have said about the unique bond we have in the dressing room, and then we become just like any other club.  Fans need to get behind this as well and don’t always call for new faces to come in.  Doing so will fundamentally change what Leicester has been about and we will lose our special winning mentality that came from the boys being like a ban of brothers. The treatment of King and the rapid degradation of Fuchs have been hard to see in this light. We need to absolutely keep Vardy, Kasper and Albrington for a while until the youngsters and newbies that come through are ingrained with the Leicester way.

When we wrote essays at school we were always told to give clear and relevant examples to back up our points.

 

Unless that's changed you're going to be getting a C- for this in the morning

Posted
7 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I honestly don't know, but it's really a tough sell to fans to just blindly go along with it. There's also a massive chance that whilst in pursuit of this, the more advanced ones will be poached by the elite clubs. I still think it's the right way to go, maybe there needs to be a balance between young players and experience it certainly seems we are going from one extreme to another and we need a blend. The goal as a club is to build a team that progresses, you don't always have to do this with all young players, sometimes players with a point to prove can come in and improve as well, this is down to the managers artistry in getting the best out of players. There seems to be an acceptance that Puel comes in to his own when he builds a team of kids and they go on to do the business, I hope that's the case but is there any evidence to this? I can accept being a work in progress as long as there's an identity and I struggle to get that from Puel, his stubbornness and persistence with a midfield that cannot play possession football undoes a lot of his good work. It's become painfully obvious since January last year that we were struggling to unlock deep defences but we failed to bring in a single central midfielder with the skill set to try and do that. The only two midfielders comfortable in possession were both Iborra and Silva and neither prospered nor were afforded the same chances that two liabilities on the ball in Mendy and Ndidi have been afforded. Then we move on to the attack, yet again not a single forward has been recruited under Puel and we currently have 2 strikers with 1 league goal between them all season and they are fast setting new records. Puel moved on all other fringe strikers and rightly or wrongly, it's hard to ignore this.

 

I hope Tielemans can ease the home form, his skill set is exactly what we've been crying out for. I really hope it works out for Puel and the players but the players and the media can moan all they want about the unrest amongst the fans but there's clearly issues between Puel and the same players themselves and Puel will be gone in the summer if they don't pick up results. It kind of makes all things irrelevant.

 

Good post this, we have gone for youth in a massive way. Not tried to bring the average age down a year or two (in a measured, progressive way), but actually thrown the kitchen sink at anyone in short trousers. I'm showing my age here, but it's all gone a bit Logan's Run. :ph34r:

 

I approve in theory (like the Busby babes), but you can have too much of a good thing. We do need some jam today, or else the masterplan will not be completed and another manager will come in and reverse the process (to some extent).

 

You can see the stick Chilwell got last year hurt. Kudos to him for channeling his energies in the right way, and really stepping up this year. We need to be patient to get the best out of virtually all our young players, and Chilwell is our best advert for doing that.

 

Fingers crossed that Tielemans can hit the ground running, he is presumably fully fit, so it is possible. 

Posted

Booing isnt my thing for our own players. Some of our players might be playing twattish at times and id rather they be taken off but wouldn't boo.  As a player in the prem having thick skin is an expectation. Your weekly pay would agree too. Recognize you wont please everyone, get out there and do your best.  Focus on getting better forget the BS.

 

Lads are way over due for inflicting a thrashing. 

Posted
6 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

I don't think it's what they're  told to do if you watch how frustrated Puel gets in the technical area. The game plan in any case is to win,  not entertain. I know it's controversial and upsetting but if entertainment is the motive, then perhaps some people are better off just spending their money going to the pictures. Football is a competitive multi million pound sport and business and when your cheaper less talented side is pitted against a much expensively put together better talented side, you employ certain tactics,with what you've got, to either draw with or beat the opposition. That's it. Any entertainment is a haphazard coincidental side product. 

I’ve already said multiple times in here playing the ‘big clubs’ we seem to put a shift in it’s the anyone outside the top 6 we’re awful against. There’s a clear game plan to keep the ball and not take risks around the oppositions box. It just gets recycled round and round. I sit bang opposite puel and he stands there applauding them for that and it’s every game until we’re losing by a couple or there’s not long left. The suddenly we try and get forward, run at players and attempt a tricky pass through. 

 

Obviously the game plan is to win its failed all but 4 times at home for a start because his way of achieving that is woeful. 

 

As for the entertainment part, football wouldn’t be the ‘business’ it is if it wasn’t entertaining people. It most certainly wouldn’t be if everyone played puels idea of football. 

Posted

I agree that a thick skin is a requirement as professional player,  but it’s not something you are born with. The young lads have to develop it, whereas the older players probably ignore the abuse far more. As such, the younger players probably feel the boo’s a lot more. As we have such a young team now maybe we should reign it in a bit...

 

Just a thought.

Posted

Ric used the word 'blindly' - I don't think we're being asked to do anything blindly at all... in fact, ironically, we're being asked to open our eyes slightly wider to try and see that there might be better things up ahead.

Posted

Don't agree with the booing at all, he makes some good balance points. However home form is pretty poor, with a theme of repeatable mistakes, players and the manager need to take some collective responsibility for a number of dreadful lackluster performances.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

I agree that a thick skin is a requirement as professional player,  but it’s not something you are born with. The young lads have to develop it, whereas the older players probably ignore the abuse far more. As such, the younger players probably feel the boo’s a lot more. As we have such a young team now maybe we should reign it in a bit...

 

Just a thought.

I agree. Anyone in the public limelight will be hated as much as they are loved. Younger players will be more effected until they discover this comes with the job they have.

 

I said on another post, I think the reason we are playing much better away from the King Power is because of the toxic and poisonous atmosphere our fans are bringing to our home games. All I could hear on the Man Ure game, live on TV out here, was United fans singing and Leicester fans booing or groaning. There was little positive support for the team. 

 

I know the booing of Ghezzal was for Puel's substitution of Maddison, but it must have been ringing in his ears when he ran on. Huge credit to him he had an excellent 30 minutes and was the best player on the pitch in that time.

 

As for Chilwell, he is right to say this, and he is spot on with his comments. The home atmosphere IS a problem, and fans should realize that young players can be inconsistent and need time to gain confidence. Look at Chilwell himself and how people on hear were moaning about him last season when he came into the team.

 

Now Chilwell is a top player. I love watching him. His performance v Liverpool was top notch. That match finished at 5am out here but I'd sit up every night to watch a Leicester City player play that well.

Posted
49 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Ric used the word 'blindly' - I don't think we're being asked to do anything blindly at all... in fact, ironically, we're being asked to open our eyes slightly wider to try and see that there might be better things up ahead.

Yeah, probably the wrong word to use but it still feels like a leap of faith for a manager who is very hard to get behind. I think the best that is going to come of this is somebody else will take over what Puel has started and continue the progression. 

Posted
32 minutes ago, ThaiFox said:

I agree. Anyone in the public limelight will be hated as much as they are loved. Younger players will be more effected until they discover this comes with the job they have.

 

I said on another post, I think the reason we are playing much better away from the King Power is because of the toxic and poisonous atmosphere our fans are bringing to our home games. All I could hear on the Man Ure game, live on TV out here, was United fans singing and Leicester fans booing or groaning. There was little positive support for the team. 

 

I know the booing of Ghezzal was for Puel's substitution of Maddison, but it must have been ringing in his ears when he ran on. Huge credit to him he had an excellent 30 minutes and was the best player on the pitch in that time.

 

As for Chilwell, he is right to say this, and he is spot on with his comments. The home atmosphere IS a problem, and fans should realize that young players can be inconsistent and need time to gain confidence. Look at Chilwell himself and how people on hear were moaning about him last season when he came into the team.

 

Now Chilwell is a top player. I love watching him. His performance v Liverpool was top notch. That match finished at 5am out here but I'd sit up every night to watch a Leicester City player play that well.

I didnt hear too many of them moaning about the atmosphere when we beat Man City. They no doubt all posted on social media " superb result, merry Christmas everyone. Fans were class as always "

 

These players have now been part of a growing issue for over a year and the atmosphere turns in matches due to the repeated mistakes. When he says they are learning and improving, is a complete contradiction. In what way? We are still conceding the first goal and then being unable to break down teams that sit back. Theres scant evidence of any improvement. The last time we beat a team that sat back was Huddersfield in September and prior to that was Huddersfield and Watford the season before. Its horrific when you analyse what is happened to our home form under Puel.

 

The young players though arent the victims of the dismay from the fans, sadly they are caught in the cross fire as our fans are showing their dissatisfaction with a manager who makes it very difficult to like. I wish we could all remain supportive and positive when watching countless misplaced passes, aimless high crosses in to a hapless Vardy, conceding an early goal an being part of the Midlands version of Groundhog Day for what feels like an eternity. Fans are emotional and at times irrational, I really dont see anything that is happening right now that doesnt happen elsewhere or has happened in the past. 

 

It can and will change quickly though if the manager and players can evoke something to stop this disconnect and downward spiral. But theres a sense of inevitability that Puel is going in the near future and that it's going to get worse before it gets better.

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