Tielemans

[foxinsocks]

9 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

I agree that Silva is a good player who deserved better at LCFC (especially over the transfer), and credit to him for getting switched on at Monaco, in such a short space of time.

 

It's quite unusual to have this kind of swap where both players are immediately great, and I'm delighted for all concerned.

Silva can do well at mobaco coz it is a differebt gamevto the pl.  He never looked comfortable with the lack if tine or tge physical nature of the pl.... i hope he does great. .. so that we can tecoup some value. 

My concern us that the better tielemans looks the more likely he will be snapped up by some other club 

[Tuna]

'He's a talent but of course there's a number of factors to signing a player,' said the Leicester manager. 

 

'We'll just enjoy working together and we'll see where we're at in the summer. I just want to see him consistently.

 

'He was a young player at 16, 17 who was highly sought after, he obviously went to Monaco and was in and around the Belgium squad, which is one of the top squads in world football.' 

 

Against Fulham Leicester fans chanted 'sign him up' for the second match in a row after Tielemans finished cooly from a pass by Jamie Vardy.

 

'I'm enjoying working with him, he's a good boy, plays with a smile, and he wants the ball,' added Rodgers. 'What was pleasing for me was seeing him in the box.

 

'He's a really clever play tactically, he knows the game well. He's got a wonderful weight of pass. I think as he gets fitter between now and the end of the season you'll hopefully see more from him as well.' 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6797475/Leicester-boss-Rodgers-delay-decision-40m-Tielemans-summer.html

[weller54]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Hahahaa it's past experiences like that that make me always uneasy when we are linked with what appears to be a huge coup on paper for the club. It's also why I had nagging doubts that Rodgers won't do well here because everything points to them being a success here but it seldom works out like that for us, we are a strange club.

I really hope Rodgers makes a success of it here, otherwise who the Hell do we appoint next? 

Early days I know but he appears to be a good fit. 

Keeping everything crossed! 

[Jordan]

10 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

Tielemans really seems like a well-grounded kid.  Why did it all go so wrong with Jardim, I wonder?

 

12 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

He’s built for the prem seems strong and pacey whereas silva is built for European style football where you get time on the ball. Ideal swap for both parties

 

13 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

Thanks for that mate. 

 

Seems a level headed guy. 

 

11 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Thank you for this, great job!

Out of interest did he say anything about Puel? You might think that changing the manager would make him think differently about the club, given that the same thing happened at Monaco. Though at the same time the change in mood among both the team and fans is there for all to see, and it was brilliant to see both Youri and Vardy so happy when he scored at the weekend. It made me think already that he is "one of us" at least for one full season next year

Thanks! A native speaker could do a better job (as my ear for French is definitely not as good as my eye is when reading it), but I listened most of the full interview (17 minutes) and  Tielemans spoke about a few things that touch a little on these comments.

 

He didn’t say anything about Jardim from what I heard—just a few quotes (most of them featured in the article) about how a bad run set in and they couldn’t break out, and how a change seemed like it would do him good. He liked Henry in the Belgium set up and thinks he’ll go for another manager job instead of going back to an assistant role.

 

The interviewer asked him about the changes in English football compared to France, and of course not having the same kind of space one typically has in France. He doesn’t think tactics are that much more complicated in England vs France—he just needs to adjust to the different amount of space and also the different role he’ll play when opponents are more defensive. He sounded up for it, and like yorkie1999 said, I think he’s enjoying the style in the PL and could be a good fit. What’s also interesting is that it sounded like the interviewer started this track asking if English fans want more entertainment and skills. Tielemans seems very focused on his job.

 

Also, I didn’t hear him say anything about Puel, but he mentioned that the players have handled the changes professionally. Tielemans also referred to the atmosphere in the club as “familial,” and said several times that everyone at the club has made him feel welcome there. He’s happy they have a young, fast team, too.

 

As for Vardy, I think it’s more interesting that the interviewer brought him up (Tielemans did have nice things to say about Vardy, too). Whenever I talk to people from other countries or have a passing interest in football and Leicester City comes up in the discussion, if the first thing they mention isn’t the 5000/1 title, it’s Vardy. We say he’s the soul of the team amongst us, but other people really notice this.

 

Tielemans is definitely a level-headed guy, as a few of you aptly noticed. I don’t know if an interview feature called “Sur le gril” is intended to get players to answer uncomfortable questions or get him to spill some dirt, but I could tell early on he wasn’t going to say anything controversial. But he’s definitely not like talking to a wall. Even when talking seriously, he usually sprinkled a little joke or laugh at the end of his comments. He comes across as a really mature player.

[MC Prussian]

14 hours ago, Jordan said:

The original article/interview in French is here: https://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/etranger/angleterre/detail_tielemans-a-leicester-on-joue-aux-flechettes-avant-les-matches?id=10166186

The initiation ritual had me in stitches, the Tielemans rap was Grade A.

 

Also, Tielemans says or indicates that his role is to "control the game". So far, he's done a terrific job at it. Personally, I think he's highly apt at reading the game and spraying passes left, right and center. He's able to anticipate his teammates' movements in a way that you rarely see on a football pitch.

Comes across as very professional and likeable, down to earth.

 

SIGN HIM UP!

[StriderHiryu]

10 minutes ago, Jordan said:

 

As for Vardy, I think it’s more interesting that the interviewer brought him up (Tielemans did have nice things to say about Vardy, too). Whenever I talk to people from other countries or have a passing interest in football and Leicester City comes up in the discussion, if the first thing they mention isn’t the 5000/1 title, it’s Vardy. We say he’s the soul of the team amongst us, but other people really notice this.

 

Well that's why Vardy is our hero! The player who broke out from working class to help create the best footballing story of all time, and a great person in real life too, now that some of his crazier days are behind him.

[gerrytaggart]

1 hour ago, Tuna said:

'He's a talent but of course there's a number of factors to signing a player,' said the Leicester manager. 

 

'We'll just enjoy working together and we'll see where we're at in the summer. I just want to see him consistently.

 

'He was a young player at 16, 17 who was highly sought after, he obviously went to Monaco and was in and around the Belgium squad, which is one of the top squads in world football.' 

 

Against Fulham Leicester fans chanted 'sign him up' for the second match in a row after Tielemans finished cooly from a pass by Jamie Vardy.

 

'I'm enjoying working with him, he's a good boy, plays with a smile, and he wants the ball,' added Rodgers. 'What was pleasing for me was seeing him in the box.

 

'He's a really clever play tactically, he knows the game well. He's got a wonderful weight of pass. I think as he gets fitter between now and the end of the season you'll hopefully see more from him as well.' 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6797475/Leicester-boss-Rodgers-delay-decision-40m-Tielemans-summer.html

? "He's a good boy"

[Foxxed]

6 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Very likely it'll be no more than £20m and Silva. It's easily do-able and I think Rodgers will look to cash in on either Maguire or Chilwell to fund all the changes he may want to make to bring this squad up to standard for his style of football.

Tielemans is 21 and will only improve. Silva is 29 and will only degrade in performance. Lots of Premier League clubs would bite their leg off for Tielemans. Silva isn't as wanted by cash-rich clubs. I'm not sure is 20 million plus Silva will be enough.

 

I sincerely hope we don't sell Chilwell since he's an academy product. But if we sell Maguire and replace him with a hopefully fit Benkovic I guess we could manage 30 million plus Silva (if that's accepted) and then spend 20 million on a promising young striker.

 

I could see Tielemans returning and us developing Maddison and Barnes as our promising attacking midfielders tbh.

[Foxxed]

5 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

Agreed we do need to bring in a replacement for Vardy... but we shouldn’t pass up the chance to sign Tielemans. The high press is already bringing the best out of Vardy and we can wait another season to replace him if needs be. 

I could see that happening. Tielemans is 21 with proven Premier League experience. We'd probably need to sell Maguire for the cash, give them Silva, break a transfer record and replace Vardy next season.

[Ric Flair]

21 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

Tielemans is 21 and will only improve. Silva is 29 and will only degrade in performance. Lots of Premier League clubs would bite their leg off for Tielemans. Silva isn't as wanted by cash-rich clubs. I'm not sure is 20 million plus Silva will be enough.

 

I sincerely hope we don't sell Chilwell since he's an academy product. But if we sell Maguire and replace him with a hopefully fit Benkovic I guess we could manage 30 million plus Silva (if that's accepted) and then spend 20 million on a promising young striker.

 

I could see Tielemans returning and us developing Maddison and Barnes as our promising attacking midfielders tbh.

I think we'd get £10-15m for Silva, don't forget we've nearly got £10m for a 31 year old Iborra. If Monaco are willing to accept that Silva's market value would be £15m to them and we'll make up the difference to get Tielemans for approaching £40m then £20m and a sell on clause or some future add ons would clinch it.

[Lizhang]

https://sporza.be/nl/2019/03/11/tielemans-uit-sportweekend/

 

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Tielemans: "Ik heb bij Leicester het voetbalplezier teruggevonden"
Youri Tielemans heeft zich in een paar matchen al ontpopt tot de regisseur bij Leicester City.

Youri Tielemans leeft na 1,5 jaar miserie in Monaco weer helemaal op bij Leicester. "Toch beschouw ik mijn periode bij Monaco niet als een mislukking, zegt onze landgenoot aan Sporza.

"Ik voel me al 100% een Fox", zegt Youri Tielemans na een handvol matchen bij Leicester. "Ik was aangenaam verrast door de verwelkoming van de ploegmaats. Ze hebben me heel snel omarmd. Leicester is een heel familiale club."

Opvallend was dat Tielemans al in zijn eerste match als een regisseur op het veld stond. "Zo ben ik nu eenmaal. Als ik op het veld sta, wil in mijn ervaring doorgeven aan andere spelers. Het maakt niet uit wie er voor of achter mij staat."

"De Premier League ligt mij wel. Het is niet alleen fysiek, maar ook techniek. Er ligt veel ruimte om iets mee te doen. Ik heb ook een klik met Jamie Vardy. Hij is een lopende spits, dus ik kan hem makkelijk bedienen. Dan maakt hij ofwel een actie ofwel scoort hij. Met zo iemand is het simpel om samen te spelen."

"Ik zie Monaco niet als een mislukking"

Leicester was een reddingsboei voor Tielemans, die bij Monaco als een van de oorzaken van de neergang werd gezien. "Er waren heel wat negatieve zaken bij Monaco, dus het was het goeie moment om te vertrekken."

"Toch zie ik Monaco niet als een mislukking. Dat is gazettenpraat. Ik heb daar heel veel geleerd van mijn trainers en ploegmaats. Ik denk nog altijd dat dat de goeie stap was. Ik was daar klaar voor. En nu is Leicester de goeie stap."

Tielemans kreeg bij Monaco ook voor het eerst te maken met kritiek. "Je weet dat je dat als profspeler ooit zal krijgen. Ik moest vooral leren omgaan met de concurrentie. De ene match spelen, dan weer niet, dan weer wel,... Dat was ik niet gewoon."

"Ik heb veel over mezelf geleerd in Monaco en ben daar mentaal sterker geworden. Maar hier bij Leicester heb ik het voetbalplezier teruggevonden. Ik zie dit niet als een revanche. Dit is gewoon een nieuwe stap in mijn carrière."
"We zullen wel zien of ik hier blijf"

Bij de fans van Leicester valt Tielemans alvast in de smaak. Zij willen dat de club hem definitief overneemt van Monaco in de zomer, naar verluidt voor 45 miljoen euro. "Over de prijs wil ik het niet hebben, want dat is opnieuw gazettenpraat. We zullen het wel zien in de zomer. In principe keer ik gewoon terug naar Monaco."

Found joy at Leicester again after 18 months of misery at Monaco.

Doesn't consider his time at Monaco as a failure.
Feels like a true Fox already and was pleasantly surprised by the warm welcome from his mates.
EPL suits him, not just physically but also technically. There's a lot of space to exploit. He has a connection with Vardy, a runner, easy to service, easy to play with.

He learned a lot at Monaco, but there was too much negativity so it was a good call to leave now. He had to cope with negativity and criticism, deal with fighting for a spot. Playing one match, benched the next. Wasn't used to that. Grew mentally stronger.

Fans (LFC) want him to stay, but he doesn't know what will happen in the summer. "Normally" he'll return to Monaco.

 

There's a video too

 

https://api.sporza.be/permalink/web/articles/1552323207296

[Blue ROI]

11 minutes ago, Lizhang said:

https://sporza.be/nl/2019/03/11/tielemans-uit-sportweekend/

 

Found joy at Leicester again after 18 months of misery at Monaco.

Doesn't consider his time at Monaco as a failure.
Feels like a true Fox already and was pleasantly surprised by the warm welcome from his mates.
EPL suits him, not just physically but also technically. There's a lot of space to exploit. He has a connection with Vardy, a runner, easy to service, easy to play with.

He learned a lot at Monaco, but there was too much negativity so it was a good call to leave now. He had to cope with negativity and criticism, deal with fighting for a spot. Playing one match, benched the next. Wasn't used to that. Grew mentally stronger.

Fans (LFC) want him to stay, but he doesn't know what will happen in the summer. "Normally" he'll return to Monaco.

 

There's a video too

 

https://api.sporza.be/permalink/web/articles/1552323207296

Don't worry Youri that's not that way we work here. 

[Foxxed]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I think we'd get £10-15m for Silva, don't forget we've nearly got £10m for a 31 year old Iborra. If Monaco are willing to accept that Silva's market value would be £15m to them and we'll make up the difference to get Tielemans for approaching £40m then £20m and a sell on clause or some future add ons would clinch it.

Who were those Monaco fans on here a while back? It'd be interesting to know their opinion. It's good Monaco's got Silva and he's performing because he'll give us a financial edge that we wouldn't normally have vis-a-vis richer clubs. There's half a chance in hell if we raise the cash from selling Maguire but I can equally see Maddison and Barnes as our main attacking midfielders next season.

[Wolfox]

39 minutes ago, Lizhang said:

https://sporza.be/nl/2019/03/11/tielemans-uit-sportweekend/

 

Found joy at Leicester again after 18 months of misery at Monaco.

Doesn't consider his time at Monaco as a failure.
Feels like a true Fox already and was pleasantly surprised by the warm welcome from his mates.
EPL suits him, not just physically but also technically. There's a lot of space to exploit. He has a connection with Vardy, a runner, easy to service, easy to play with.

He learned a lot at Monaco, but there was too much negativity so it was a good call to leave now. He had to cope with negativity and criticism, deal with fighting for a spot. Playing one match, benched the next. Wasn't used to that. Grew mentally stronger.

Fans (LFC) want him to stay, but he doesn't know what will happen in the summer. "Normally" he'll return to Monaco.

 

There's a video too

 

https://api.sporza.be/permalink/web/articles/1552323207296

"Normally" in that context with French means that based on current circumstances he’s on loan until the end of the season…. Consequently he’d return…

 

However, clearly there are things that could happen in the interim…. Like we make an offer!  

 

I just wanted to be clear that he wasn’t suggesting this’d be a likely outcome in case anyone started to feel dismayed ?!

[PhillippaT]

We really need him - with him and Ndidi, it seems we've finally managed to replace Kante  

[Lizhang]

4 hours ago, Wolfox said:

"Normally" in that context with French means that based on current circumstances he’s on loan until the end of the season…. Consequently he’d return…

 

However, clearly there are things that could happen in the interim…. Like we make an offer!  

 

I just wanted to be clear that he wasn’t suggesting this’d be a likely outcome in case anyone started to feel dismayed ?!

Yes, except that that wasn't French... it was Dutch.

 

Otherwise, yes. That's why i put it between quotes.

[Wolfox]

2 minutes ago, Lizhang said:

Yes, except that that wasn't French... it was Dutch.

 

Otherwise, yes. That's why i put it between quotes.

Ah he’s Dutch as opposed to French speaking Belgian….  I guess it works it works in either language then!

[Lizhang]

2 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

Ah he’s Dutch as opposed to French speaking Belgian….  I guess it works it works in either language then!

He's from Brussels and speaks both languages near-perfect. He gave an interview to both Flemish and Walloon TV on the same day.

[Carl the Llama]

1 minute ago, Lizhang said:

He's from Brussels and speaks both languages near-perfect. He gave an interview to both Flemish and Walloon TV on the same day.

I have a teeny bit of vlaams in my locker and the very last quote from your article would translate to: "I can't say anything about the price, that's just paper talk. We'll see what happens in the summer. As things stand I'm just going back to Monaco again".  The way he talks of rediscovering the joy of football and playing in the 1st team, how he describes this as the next step in his career and on 2 occasions says "we'll see" if he stays all paints a positive picture regarding his response if we do make serious overtures to make the move permanent.  Hope that's all cleared up.

[Lizhang]

2 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I have a teeny bit of vlaams in my locker and the very last quote from your article would translate to: "I can't say anything about the price, that's just paper talk. We'll see what happens in the summer. As things stand I'm just going back to Monaco again".  The way he talks of rediscovering the joy of football and playing in the 1st team, how he describes this as the next step in his career and on 2 occasions says "we'll see" if he stays all paints a positive picture regarding his response if we do make serious overtures to make the move permanent.  Hope that's all cleared up.

There is no need to translate my motherlanguage for me, but thanks
I wasn't translating the article, i was just giving a rundown. He does seem to enjoy it at Leicester, while not having enjoyed his time at Monaco, and it looks like he just doesn't want to comment on a permanent move. Which makes sense.If he says he wants to leave Monaco, but the summer deal doesn't happen, then he needs to go back and fans back there will spit him out.

[Carl the Llama]

2 minutes ago, Lizhang said:

There is no need to translate my motherlanguage for me, but thanks
I wasn't translating the article, i was just giving a rundown. He does seem to enjoy it at Leicester, while not having enjoyed his time at Monaco, and it looks like he just doesn't want to comment on a permanent move. Which makes sense.If he says he wants to leave Monaco, but the summer deal doesn't happen, then he needs to go back and fans back there will spit him out.

I was backing you up als het niet klaar was...

[Lizhang]

2 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I was backing you up als het niet klaar was...

Oh, sorry.

[ozleicester]

18 hours ago, weller54 said:

2nd best for me, behind Matt Mills. 

 

Ahem... 3rd...

"Only weak people feel pressure"

[Grebfromgrebland]

We're all forgetting waghorn

[weller54]

2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We're all forgetting waghorn

Who?