UniFox21 Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 2 minutes ago, Master Fox said: Maguire was the worst player on the pitch today. Awful The mistake for the 4th, why does he start charging up pitch?
squidsworth Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 We have two major problems; one is we have far too much careless play the like of which you don't see from other teams at this level, so we get punished. Why? Maybe the players don't believe in the system and/or the manager. Two is we have a squad of players that have difficulty in scoring when they make chances, or don't even make chances at all. Meaning we concede too much and don't score enough. Simple. All sounds like coaching/management to me. For the love of God, just get rid of puel. Even if we reverse the side we'll now be lucky to get top 10. At this rate it'll be more like 14th/15th. Was it only a few weeks ago we were looking at 7th, not even that far from 6th? Terrible form.
UPinCarolina Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 41 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: So given the time has had - a season and a half - with his players being drafted in giving him what he wants - who else is responsible? When answering please consider Puel is responsible for motivating the players, the tactics utilised and getting results. Certainly some fault can be placed on Puel. That’s part of being the manager. I think that the tragedy, as well as the continuing shake-up of the title winning XI has been difficult to put it mildly. Bringing through young players has helped freshen up the place but their inconsistency has been aggravating. We can’t seem to get everyone firing on all cylinders, and the slow-starts (which may be a mangerial failing, even as many individual failures have led to them) are killing us. I feel that this has been a totally star-crossed season and we’ve been dreadfully unlucky. It’s hard to imagine how it could have been worse without seeming to be attributable to one single thing. I think some want our frustrating campaign to be solely down to Puel, and it’s just not that simple.
harpendenfox Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 City mean way more to me than they should. I’m 52 and should no better. But I feel pretty darn sad about it all tonight. Tonight’s game was a chastening experience and everything feels wrong at the moment. I simply don’t think Claude has the charisma to inspire the players or the supporters, and hence it’s time for him to be removed. God knows who we get to replace him.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 3 hours ago, SuperMike said: Babylon and that all-over-the-floor contributor will still be praising The Messiah - our Wonderful Wonderful Charismatic Leader. And you'll still be Special Mike
inckley fox Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 22 minutes ago, Master Fox said: Maguire was the worst player on the pitch today. Awful Between him and Maddison for me. But Maguire is having a seriously shaky season, and with those advanced full backs and only two CBs he's very exposed.
Finn Claw II Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 He needs that dreaded vote of confidence. One game where the players can play for his job or get him the sack. I really like what he is trying to achieve but our squad is a top ten squad but right now I can’t see where our next win is coming from.
st albans fox Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 3 minutes ago, inckley fox said: Between him and Maddison for me. But Maguire is having a seriously shaky season, and with those advanced full backs and only two CBs he's very exposed. He needs to play in a three we have the personnel to carry it out we dont have a manager willing to play the system
SuperMike Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 9 minutes ago, harpendenfox said: City mean way more to me than they should. I’m 52 and should no better. But I feel pretty darn sad about it all tonight. Tonight’s game was a chastening experience and everything feels wrong at the moment. I simply don’t think Claude has the charisma to inspire the players or the supporters, and hence it’s time for him to be removed. God knows who we get to replace him. As a Harpenden fox myself, I am pleased that you are finally seeing the light, Puel-wise!!
harpendenfox Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 1 minute ago, SuperMike said: As a Harpenden fox myself, I am pleased that you are finally seeing the light, Puel-wise!! I’ve been on the fence for ages, having endured games like the 5-0 at Palace last season, but I think today tipped me over the edge. I hate sacking managers. It feels like a failure, but I think we need to get on with it. Good to know there’s another Fox in town. There are indeed plenty of us across the County. Hope we are all feeling a little more cheerful come Tuesday night
mucfox Posted 23 February 2019 Posted 23 February 2019 Maddison + Gheezal out 4ever - Hamza in / Maguire out - Wes in ...now we finally see how important Marc Albrighton was....
Foxaholic ME Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 hour ago, inckley fox said: Did you never, at any point support him then? Assuming you did, you must also have changed your mind at some point! I don't think you can call people wanting to give someone a chance 'deluded'. All of us were, at one moment in time, willing to give Taylor, Bassett, Levein, Kelly, Allen, Holloway, Sousa a chance. Yes, we were wrong to in those cases, but we'd be lousy fans if we didn't give people a fair shot. The only thing that's changed for me is that I now think there is a strong enough argument now for us to fire him, whereas it was previously quite a flimsy argument based on misinformation, gut feelings and unrealistic expectations. I've always had doubts about him, but I could see progress here and there, and in that regard I'm consistent. In the here and now, of course, there's a very strong argument not to wait and see in the summer, but to act immediately. How was Allen given a chance
inckley fox Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 minute ago, Foxaholic ME said: How was Allen given a chance The point I'm making is that the fans were willing to give these people a chance, Allen included.
Tom12345 Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 Agree with many here who said Maddison and MacGuire had a very poor game. Maddison started off in the first half ok in terms of dropping deep and helping up with linking play - but then it got downhill for him. His set pieces and corners were awful. I don’t get how he can consistently not get over the first man or overfloats everything. MacGuire is just not a good defender and is error prone. If we want to stop leaking goals, we need to think about dropping him. Barnes was really the real bright light at the moment - but I feel sorry for him when he could be playing happily and winning games at WBA. We dominate possession and create some nice ball movements until the final or second final ball. Why? Because we don’t have the players and the system for it. This I blame Puel. Barnes and Vardy are wasted in this system. They need space to run on to but we just don’t have enough players who can release them early enough - today, only MacGuire did once, Fuchs tried a few times (he is still good for me), Tielemans tried too (he will be good for us). Puel really needs to fix this very soon - first by changing the style of play and second by playing Okazaki to support Vardy. Leaving Vardy up front alone is part of the problem why we are not lethal enough. He is just not given enough space with defenders being able to swamp around him to prevent fast breaks and through balls. Defenders don’t need to worry about others because the others are way to slow in building up and making runs.
Bazly Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 I missed the game. It was a choice of watch this or take a girl out for a nice meal. If I'd watched the game I would have just got myself frustrated 3 hours earlier. 1 point from a possible 18, it could be worse.
mozartfox Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: He needs to play in a three we have the personnel to carry it out we dont have a manager willing to play the system Agree totally as long as the third CB is youthful with pace and mobility.
UPinCarolina Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 12 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Agree totally as long as the third CB is youthful with pace and mobility. Caglar?
MPH Posted 24 February 2019 Author Posted 24 February 2019 3 hours ago, st albans fox said: He needs to play in a three we have the personnel to carry it out we dont have a manager willing to play the system we have AMAZING wing backs to pull it off aswell...
volpeazzurro Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 3 hours ago, st albans fox said: He needs to play in a three we have the personnel to carry it out we dont have a manager willing to play the system He needs to concentrate on his job as a centre half and defend and stop believing his own hype thinking he's Rio Ferdinand for a start.
volpeazzurro Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 hour ago, Bazly said: I missed the game. It was a choice of watch this or take a girl out for a nice meal. If I'd watched the game I would have just got myself frustrated 3 hours earlier. 1 point from a possible 18, it could be worse. I take it as read that after the meal you didn't end the night frustrated?
Dan Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 I wouldn't even give him Tuesday. Don't under-estimate the virtue of a man not being Puel. Look at Solskjaer, he's no top manager he just isn't Mourinho. It's piss poor but he's got to go. Give it Shakespeare or Appleton until May then a new man in the summer and use this time to ensure the right man is brought in. Good luck Claude. I got it to a degree but this is never going to work.
deep blue Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: He needs to play in a three we have the personnel to carry it out we dont have a manager willing to play the system Maguire needs to play in a 3 and we have the CBs to do that. We have 2 excellent wing backs. We need to play some combination of 3 midfielders to keep a strong connection between defence and attack. We need to play 2 strikers (one possibly withdrawn). It is crying out for 3-5-2 and our squad is perfect for it.
Fosse93 Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 5 hours ago, The Doctor said: You're talking about last season, and yes last season he was spectacular. But, there's no arguing this season for what ever reason he's been on a steep decline. People refuse to see that though and talk about not playing to his strengths, which may be the case, but a good striker buries good chances. There's not a "not the right sort of chance" for a top striker, there's a goalscoring chance or a half chance. Much as I think we all hate spurs, look at Kane: https://understat.com/team/Tottenham/2018 should be on 12-13, is on 15. He's not hiding behind missing clear cut chances because "oh, it wasn't a quick ball". Vardy this season doesn't justify a shirt, and is reliant on Okazaki (never a goalscorer for us) and Iheanacho (doing his best to prove every overweight 40 year old plumbers insistence that even he could score in a team like man city) not doing enough to displace him rather than having the shirt on his own merits - looking elsewhere and talking about the form of the midfielders and the tactics, as if that explains his profligacy, is excuse making. If he weren't getting the service fine, but he is, and he's wasting it. Are we pretending he's not joint second on big chances missed this season? That he's not, by any statistical measure, underperforming? Please tell me who 'justifies' a start over Vardy because I'm all ears.... he's the best striker outside of the top 6 yet you'd rather place the blame at his door than Puel's? Do you go to the games? He gets zero service most weeks. You like statistics? We haven't lost 4 home games on the bounce for NINETEEN YEARS, but yeah Puel is faultless right? Award for the most deluded poster on foxestalk goes to.... (sorta want to apologise for being harsh here but I've seen you say worse on countless occasions )
deep blue Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 14 minutes ago, Fosse93 said: ... You like statistics? We haven't lost 4 home games on the bounce for NINETEEN YEARS, but yeah Puel is faultless right? ... This stat has been quoted already and it worries me. We all know how that ended up.
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