Osavo Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Great.... Could be in real trouble here. Root not getting enough protection or rest batting at 3. Desperately need someone to hang around now.
Izzy Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Sick of this shit. The Aussies have the voodoo sign over us. Man for man they're no better than us but Langer, Ponting & Waugh up on the balcony make the difference. Mental toughness.
surrifox Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 1 minute ago, Osavo said: Great.... Could be in real trouble here. Root not getting enough protection or rest batting at 3. Desperately need someone to hang around now. Agree . Captain and batting 3 Root is not a great captain in any case - we can’t afford to have our best batsman over burdened with too much to worry about , but who to give it to ?
Corky Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Our top order are terrible, no matter who plays. Ridiculous how often we're in trouble early on.
Osavo Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Just now, surrifox said: Agree . Captain and batting 3 Root is not a great captain in any case - we can’t afford to have our best batsman over burdened with too much to worry about , but who to give it to ? Tough one as no one stands out as a great candidate. Personally I'd go Buttler, not in the best form at the moment but is a properly tough character and a good tactician by all accounts. Also very level headed, unlike Stokes who is too fiery to be captain imo.
UniFox21 Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Has Roy or Root been of any use this ashes so far? Both need dropping down the batting order a bit, pop buttler or denly higher up.
Izzy Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 21 minutes ago, Osavo said: Tough one as no one stands out as a great candidate. Personally I'd go Buttler, not in the best form at the moment but is a properly tough character and a good tactician by all accounts. Also very level headed, unlike Stokes who is too fiery to be captain imo. Really? He always comes across as a bit of a wet fart to me.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 World class bowlers, terrible batsmen... how did we win the World Cup with that crap batting
Osavo Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 1 hour ago, Izzy said: Really? He always comes across as a bit of a wet fart to me. Only based on what I've read tbh, obviously I don't know the bloke personally.
surrifox Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: Has Roy or Root been of any use this ashes so far? Both need dropping down the batting order a bit, pop buttler or denly higher up. Well Root is one of the few world class players we have we just need to get him batting in the slot that suits him best and relieve him of the captaincy . Roy can get in the bin until the next 20/20 or 50 over game
ScouseFox Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 2 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: No way we win this, no way we'd dare declare at any point with Aussies potentially reaching it. It's about making sure we don't get knocked over cheaply, not going out to score quickly. Good luck to England batsmen, they are going to get some rough treatment. lols don’t think we need to worry about declaring too early
Bert Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 3 hours ago, Abrasive fox said: Erm, hes got 50 over twenty times so im not sure thats correct. If you get a hundred, it doesnt count as a 50 on your stats. Oh I thought it did! My bad! It said 25 50’s 24 100’s.
katieakita Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 Fantastic days cricket, not sure what the par chase will be but think we need 200+ but if the wicket goes 150 could be tricky, a 4th innings chase is never easy
Lionator Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 3 hours ago, Osavo said: Tough one as no one stands out as a great candidate. Personally I'd go Buttler, not in the best form at the moment but is a properly tough character and a good tactician by all accounts. Also very level headed, unlike Stokes who is too fiery to be captain imo. He's not even worth a place in the team. It needs a radical overhaul in the winter.
ScouseFox Posted 17 August 2019 Posted 17 August 2019 just watched the highlights of this afternoon, fully fledged member of the i don’t like cricket, but i do fu cking love jofra club
Crinklyfox Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 Fascinating day's cricket ahead. England must try to hang on in there for as long as possible. The ball has dominated the bat so far and the last day should be no different. I'll be interested to see how Smith bats - he took a terrible blow which had it been an inch or so further up could have been very serious, Philip Hughes was killed by a blow in a similar place. How he will react mentally is as yet unknown, batting is instinctive at that level so it's possible he won't be the same player as he was before he was hit, at least in the short term.
StanSP Posted 18 August 2019 Author Posted 18 August 2019 15 hours ago, Izzy said: Sick of this shit. The Aussies have the voodoo sign over us. Man for man they're no better than us but Langer, Ponting & Waugh up on the balcony make the difference. Mental toughness. Sorry but if you mean every single player then that's nonsense. Warner is better than Roy. Smith is the best player out of the two squads anyway. Not seen Leach much but I presume he's not as good as Lyon. Arguably Cummins better than Woakes - debatable mind and would accept that this can swing either way. If we're doing an Ashes XI so to speak, yes the majority of England players are better but not all of them.
deejdeej Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 15 hours ago, foxes_rule1978 said: World class bowlers, terrible batsmen... how did we win the World Cup with that crap batting ODI team are a completely different kettle of fish, and Morgan is twice the captain Root is. I'd actually argue Morgan is worth having in the test team based just on his captaincy.
AKCJ Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 40 minutes ago, StanSP said: Sorry but if you mean every single player then that's nonsense. Warner is better than Roy. Smith is the best player out of the two squads anyway. Not seen Leach much but I presume he's not as good as Lyon. Arguably Cummins better than Woakes - debatable mind and would accept that this can swing either way. If we're doing an Ashes XI so to speak, yes the majority of England players are better but not all of them. As a batting unit, if you were to take Smith out of the Australian side I actually think we're much better than them. Root's lack of form, coupled with Smith's incredible form, makes us look worse than we are IMO.
Izzy Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Sorry but if you mean every single player then that's nonsense. Warner is better than Roy. Smith is the best player out of the two squads anyway. Not seen Leach much but I presume he's not as good as Lyon. Arguably Cummins better than Woakes - debatable mind and would accept that this can swing either way. If we're doing an Ashes XI so to speak, yes the majority of England players are better but not all of them. I don't mean every single player, no. I mean what you put in your last sentence.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 Going to be a real battle today to try and save this game, lose early wickets this morning and we’re doomed, ideally we need to still be batting at tea 300 on and have a bowl at them in the last session.
Osavo Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 13 hours ago, Lionator said: He's not even worth a place in the team. It needs a radical overhaul in the winter. Some would argue that Tim Paine isn't worth a place in the Australian team in fairness. Convinced he wouldn't be there if he hadn't been made captain.
surrifox Posted 18 August 2019 Posted 18 August 2019 16 minutes ago, Osavo said: Some would argue that Tim Paine isn't worth a place in the Australian team in fairness. Convinced he wouldn't be there if he hadn't been made captain. Someone had to do it with 1/3 of the side banned for cheating
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