don_danbury Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 2 minutes ago, oxtonfox said: I don’t think so. Long term Man C will be second and we’re looking for 3rd and 4th. Those teams chasing 3rd and 4th, Chelsea, Wolves Spuds Utd we want to drop points. when is laporte back? they're pretty garbage without him imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ScouseFox Posted 27 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 December 2019 3 minutes ago, ithuriel said: If we drop out of those places we have only our selves to blame. yeah that's a fine little cliche but that wasn't really my point. if wolves had lost we would have less chance of dropping out of the top four. i don't really care who is "to blame", i'd just rather it was less likely to happen. and it's got more likely to happen based on tonight's result. so it literally cannot be anything other than a bad result for us, 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Despite losing two on the bounce, we've maintained 2nd place. Psychologically that's a massive boost. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxtonfox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I am not worried about Wolves, they have so many games to navigate, we have dipped granted but we will pick up again. Wolves have Liverpool next up, I would be more worried if I was Chelsea tbh. Finishing above Manchester City will be good for us. Wolves could beat Liverpool; six points off the teams we get mullered by. They’ve taken six points of City and they have a chance with Liverpool in my view. Especially as Liverpool have all but won the league now. Wolves problem is with the weaker teams. Edited 27 December 2019 by oxtonfox spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 ****ing nuts that we are still second. Hope our players want a reaction against West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 27 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, Gerard said: I find it utterly amazing that by definition of this post you think there is more chance of Man City finishing 5th or lower than Wolves finishing 4th or higher. If we have written off the title which we all should have done by now then our competitor isn't Man City but the teams chasing that 4th placed finish. What I find utterly amazing is fans thinking that we’re capable of losing a nine point lead over Wolves...... if you really think this is a possibility and it was to happen, then frankly we don’t deserve a place in the top four..... the fact that you find a team nine points behind us more of a threat than the team a point behind us is just pure pessimism.... we’ve not dropped nine points all season in the time frame needed to throw this away..... get a grip lads come on.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tielemans63 Posted 27 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 December 2019 Not going to get too up or down with any other team's results. I'm only interested in us getting back on track and beating West Ham and Newcastle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Just now, Legend_in_blue said: Despite losing two on the bounce, we've maintained 2nd place. Psychologically that's a massive boost. Conceding 7 in the last 2 games is not a psychological boost!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, oxtonfox said: Wolves could beat Liverpool; six points off the teams we get mullered by. They’ve taken six points of City then they have a chance off Liverpool in my view. There problem is with the weaker teams. Which is our strength so I don't see the point in all of this doom and gloom and scaremongering. Unless of course you get more points for beating Man City etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 8 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: awful result for us. there's no difference between finishing second and third. there's quite a big difference between finishing fourth or fifth. finishing above or below man city is irrelevant. finishing above or below wolves might just be the difference between champions league football and europa league football. give your heads a wobble if you think that is good for us. Not true ..... the higher you finish in your league the larger the percentage of the domestic tv pool you get ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, ScouseFox said: yeah that's a fine little cliche but that wasn't really my point. if wolves had lost we would have less chance of dropping out of the top four. i don't really care who is "to blame", i'd just rather it was less likely to happen. and it's got more likely to happen based on tonight's result. so it literally cannot be anything other than a bad result for us, Its not a cliché, it would be a fact, we have a good points advantage, if we throw it away, it is our fault and no one else's, as for Wolves, they are taking their chances instead of trying to play it safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, Pliskin said: What I find utterly amazing is fans thinking that we’re capable of losing a nine point lead over Wolves...... if you really think this is a possibility and it was to happen, then frankly we don’t deserve a place in the top four..... the fact that you find a team nine points behind us more of a threat than the team a point behind us is just pure pessimism.... we’ve not dropped nine points all season in the time frame needed to throw this away..... get a grip lads come on.... nobody is arguing about "not deserving it" or "blaming ourselves" if we drop out of the top four, simply saying we would prefer it if we didn't drop out the top four. and wolves winning tonight made it more likely that we might drop out the top four. not by much, and i still don't think it will happen. but it would've been better for us to be ten points ahead of fifth than nine. that's just common sense and simple maths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachyboy Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Owen winging about that penalty more contact in that than Mane against us biased idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Just now, ithuriel said: Its not a cliché, it would be a fact, we have a good points advantage, if we throw it away, it is our fault and no one else's, as for Wolves, they are taking their chances instead of trying to play it safe. i don't even know what point you are trying to argue. if wolves lost tonight we would be 10 points ahead of 5th. if they won we would be 9 points ahead of 5th. which one of those is better for our chances of finishing in the top 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wardyfox86 Posted 27 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 December 2019 I'm starting to get a little worried that Villa have closed the gap on us too. Yes, they're 21 points behind us but they can close the gap. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest An Sionnach Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Wolves - less bullshit - more grit and determination - getting the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Just now, ScouseFox said: i don't even know what point you are trying to argue. if wolves lost tonight we would be 10 points ahead of 5th. if they won we would be 9 points ahead of 5th. which one of those is better for our chances of finishing in the top 4? You're the one arguing, I'm stating a fact, if we blow it, it is our fault, no one else's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, wardyfox86 said: I'm starting to get a little worried that Villa have closed the gap on us too. Yes, they're 21 points behind us but they can close the gap. Yeah and that Southampton result against Chelsea was a real kick in the teeth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Not true ..... the higher you finish in your league the larger the percentage of the domestic tv pool you get ......... genuinely couldn't give the slightest of shits about that. the difference between finishing ahead of man city or behind man city will be a few million quid that we will probably waste. the difference between finishing ahead of wolves or behind wolves (or spurs, or united etc) will define our whole season's achievements and possibly the future of this club when you think of players and possibly the manager leaving if we don't get a top 4 finish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 1 minute ago, ScouseFox said: i don't even know what point you are trying to argue. if wolves lost tonight we would be 10 points ahead of 5th. if they won we would be 9 points ahead of 5th. which one of those is better for our chances of finishing in the top 4? A bicycle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastAnglianFox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 2 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: nobody is arguing about "not deserving it" or "blaming ourselves" if we drop out of the top four, simply saying we would prefer it if we didn't drop out the top four. and wolves winning tonight made it more likely that we might drop out the top four. not by much, and i still don't think it will happen. but it would've been better for us to be ten points ahead of fifth than nine. that's just common sense and simple maths. Leave it man, he just really..really doesn't see it 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 4 minutes ago, Pliskin said: What I find utterly amazing is fans thinking that we’re capable of losing a nine point lead over Wolves...... if you really think this is a possibility and it was to happen, then frankly we don’t deserve a place in the top four..... the fact that you find a team nine points behind us more of a threat than the team a point behind us is just pure pessimism.... we’ve not dropped nine points all season in the time frame needed to throw this away..... get a grip lads come on.... I think we are capable of losing 9 points, of we get 3 or 4 injuries and suspensions.....who knows. Likely hood is low, but I'm a guy who wants the fat lady to sing before I count my chickens Saturdays match is about the team being able to bounce back, if not we are at risk of losing our top 4 slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ScouseFox said: genuinely couldn't give the slightest of shits about that. the difference between finishing ahead of man city or behind man city will be a few million quid that we will probably waste. the difference between finishing ahead of wolves or behind wolves (or spurs, or united etc) will define our whole season's achievements and possibly the future of this club when you think of players and possibly the manager leaving if we don't get a top 4 finish. That’s obvious ....I was just pointing out that your statement wasn’t 100% right ....... Edited 27 December 2019 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 7 minutes ago, oxtonfox said: Wolves could beat Liverpool; six points off the teams we get mullered by. They’ve taken six points of City then they have a chance off Liverpool in my view. There problem is with the weaker teams. Norwich beat Manchester City as well, it’s all relative, Liverpool are consistently good And they are in a league of their own, if they don’t win the title now they will have seriously flunked it. I underwrote their chances quiet stupidly but they are proving they are a solid team. They have the strength in depth to cope with injuries and suspensions and they just win games. Wolves are a good team, but I think They will remain fighting for that 4th place I am not worried by them and I don’t think Manchester City would be either. Chelsea are pretty inconsistent more so than us, one week they beat Spurs next week they lose to Southampton. Barring our defeats to Liverpool and Manchester City we have done well. We have dipped in form, but the January window is approaching and we can one or two players that can make a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 27 December 2019 Share Posted 27 December 2019 Just now, ScouseFox said: nobody is arguing about "not deserving it" or "blaming ourselves" if we drop out of the top four, simply saying we would prefer it if we didn't drop out the top four. and wolves winning tonight made it more likely that we might drop out the top four. not by much, and i still don't think it will happen. but it would've been better for us to be ten points ahead of fifth than nine. that's just common sense and simple maths. Common sense and simple maths? How many cans have you had over the festive period?? We’re nine points clear.... what evidence have you seen of us throwing that away. I can’t actually believe that this debate is going on.... so if we go by your logic and so called common sense, you are suggesting that we’re going to go on a raging losing spree and throw away nine points? Something we haven’t done all season? We’ve had a wobble against the two best teams on the division, had City not have lost a man it could have been different but that’s that. Outside of Man City and Liverpool were the best team in the league when on form. We will finish in the top four and probably none points clear of Wolves. Stop searching for any negative you can.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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