HoustonFox Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Reading this thread about Perez for £30M feels like I’ve gone onto the Bournemouth forum and they’re signing Gray off us for £25M. He’s decent but as the Newcastle fan said, this is just silly money, and I’m starting to see some people getting overly excited about it. If he gets 15 goals next season, then I’m happy to say I was wrong, but it seems an expensive signing for a player who isn’t really a true winger and isn’t really a true striker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfuseFootball Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HoustonFox said: Reading this thread about Perez for £30M feels like I’ve gone onto the Bournemouth forum and they’re signing Gray off us for £25M. He’s decent but as the Newcastle fan said, this is just silly money, and I’m starting to see some people getting overly excited about it. If he gets 15 goals next season, then I’m happy to say I was wrong, but it seems an expensive signing for a player who isn’t really a true winger and isn’t really a true striker. That's exactly what we want though, a player that can play anywhere in attack. 17 apps 8 goals from RM last year suggests he can do a far better job that our current wingers, you cannot compare him to Gray, his goal return is far superior. What even is £30m anymore? Seems to be the standard fee for a first team player in the PL. Not for us to worry about money, if Brendan has identified him as a player that will advance us, then superb. Edited 3 July 2019 by ProfuseFootball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 2 minutes ago, HoustonFox said: Reading this thread about Perez for £30M feels like I’ve gone onto the Bournemouth forum and they’re signing Gray off us for £25M. He’s decent but as the Newcastle fan said, this is just silly money, and I’m starting to see some people getting overly excited about it. If he gets 15 goals next season, then I’m happy to say I was wrong, but it seems an expensive signing for a player who isn’t really a true winger and isn’t really a true striker. Tbf If Gray had just scored 12 goals in the season and we let him go for 25/30 I wouldn’t be best pleased. Ayoze’s numbers are good in a side devoid of any real attacking ambition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AjcW Posted 3 July 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 3 July 2019 Things we haven't done: - Spent £30 million on Perez - Spent £30 million on a random player with no prem experience Things we have done: - Spent £16m+ Add Ons on Perez - Signed a player with plenty of Premier League experience - Signed a player who fits our squad character to the letter - Signed someone who scored more goals from the wing than Marcus Rashford and Wilfred Zaha last season... two players who are apparently worth a considerable amount more... 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jammie82uk Posted 3 July 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 3 July 2019 2 minutes ago, AjcW said: Things we haven't done: - Spent £30 million on Perez - Spent £30 million on a random player with no prem experience Things we have done: - Spent £16m+ Add Ons on Perez - Signed a player with plenty of Premier League experience - Signed a player who fits our squad character to the letter - Signed someone who scored more goals from the wing than Marcus Rashford and Wilfred Zaha last season... two players who are apparently worth a considerable amount more... How many times do you need to be told, you are not aloud to speak sense on here consider this your final warning 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 5 minutes ago, AjcW said: Things we haven't done: - Spent £30 million on Perez - Spent £30 million on a random player with no prem experience Things we have done: - Spent £16m+ Add Ons on Perez - Signed a player with plenty of Premier League experience - Signed a player who fits our squad character to the letter - Signed someone who scored more goals from the wing than Marcus Rashford and Wilfred Zaha last season... two players who are apparently worth a considerable amount more... If it's a release clause it will be money up front and John Percy says it is his release clause. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 (edited) He was Newcastle's star man against us on the wing in April, gave Ricky P a very tough evening. To be honest I wasn't impressed with him two years ago but I didn't realise he was still quite young, hopefully now he knows the League & himself better and he can become more consistent & impressive. His versatility will come into use too, we brang Shinji off the bench a couple of times towards the end of last season and had him out wide & behind the striker - he wasn't very effective but it seemed to be a tactic Edited 3 July 2019 by Jaspa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveherbe Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 1 minute ago, jammie82uk said: How many times do you need to be told, you are not aloud to speak sense on here consider this your final warning You're also not allowed to spell allowed as 'aloud'. See me after school please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 7 minutes ago, AjcW said: Things we haven't done: - Spent £30 million on Perez - Spent £30 million on a random player with no prem experience Things we have done: - Spent £16m+ Add Ons on Perez - Signed a player with plenty of Premier League experience - Signed a player who fits our squad character to the letter - Signed someone who scored more goals from the wing than Marcus Rashford and Wilfred Zaha last season... two players who are apparently worth a considerable amount more... According to who? Not John Percy, he's updated his article... Not any of the reliable Newcastle journos either. It's very much looking like £30 million. That said, I think we're only overpaying by a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox85 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nicolo Barella said: According to who? Not John Percy, he's updated his article... Not any of the reliable Newcastle journos either. It's very much looking like £30 million. That said, I think we're only overpaying by a little. We are only over paying if he doesnt hit double figures. Next season if he hits double figures he will be worth double the 30m we pay the transfer market is crazy Edited 3 July 2019 by Fox85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Just now, Fox85 said: We are only over paying if he doesnt hit double figures. Next season if he hits double figures he will be worth double the 30m we pay the transfer market is crazy I don't think if he gets 10 goals next season he will be worth 60 million. Deulofeu got that many goals and he shouldn't cost more than £40 million in Watford's wildest dreams. That said, if he gets 10+ goals next season, he certainly won't have been a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 People honestly need to stop worrying about the money, we, like all other clubs these days are a business. We wouldn't take any risks that aren't well and truely calculated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 3 minutes ago, Fox85 said: We are only over paying if he doesnt hit double figures. Next season if he hits double figures he will be worth double the 30m we pay the transfer market is crazy Pretty much this. We’ll only know if we’ve overpaid if he underperforms. I thought we overpaid for Ulloa at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Announcement soon then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 7 minutes ago, Ricey said: If it's a release clause it will be money up front and John Percy says it is his release clause. I think the co fusion in price tells us something, the release clause is clearly £30m and we have tried to negotiate how we pay it. The £16m reported by several papers last night and this morning suggest that's the up front cost and then we're trying to get them to agree to add one's over a number of years/performance related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 1 minute ago, goose2010 said: People honestly need to stop worrying about the money, we, like all other clubs these days are a business. We wouldn't take any risks that aren't well and truely calculated. Really?... Who did the calculations on Slimani, Silva and Ghezzal then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: With his own money or with OURS?! He asked for a VAT receipt... guessing he's claiming that on expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_LCFC Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Not sure if all release clauses have to be paid cash up front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ricey said: If it's a release clause it will be money up front and John Percy says it is his release clause. Depends what kind of release clause it is Could be its £30m for teams with European Football or Spanish Clubs (he has always wanted to go back to Spain) and apparently Spanish clubs have baulked at the price, and no one else is interested in him Perez has told Newcastle he wants to leave and won’t sign a new contract, so our offer of £16m and add ons up to £30m is the best they can get Edited 3 July 2019 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 9 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said: According to who? Not John Percy, he's updated his article... Not any of the reliable Newcastle journos either. It's very much looking like £30 million. That said, I think we're only overpaying by a little. According to @Abrasive fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Just now, Alex_LCFC said: Not sure if all release clauses have to be paid cash up front This is often where the negotiation is applicable, otherwise there's fcuk all to discuss with the club as they are powerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 Just now, Steve Earle said: According to @Abrasive fox I think I'd trust John Percy over a rando posting on foxestalk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 3 minutes ago, Rusko187 said: He asked for a VAT receipt... guessing he's claiming that on expenses. Technically that twix belongs to US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 2 minutes ago, Alex_LCFC said: Not sure if all release clauses have to be paid cash up front Depends what kind of hooker you have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 3 July 2019 Share Posted 3 July 2019 7 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Announcement soon then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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