Nathan Ake

[TJB-fox]

20 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Give them £50m and Gray for Ake and Fraser

They’d want / expect 80-100m plus Gray I would’ve thought for them two!

[turtmcfly]

18 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

40-50m punt 

 

Jesus we have Nacho , silva , mussa and silimani clogging up about £80-100m in punts

 

we cant afford to be punting £50m , I can’t see ya spending more than £20m at this stage 

 

 

Musa? Have a rest Numbers

 

 

 

 

[ProfuseFootball]

42 minutes ago, GDesign_JRC said:

Didn't know where to upload so I'll do it here. Dunk not even the best Brighton CB, Tarkowski and Ake good options imo

Problem is these stats are not always a good indicator. Burnley's style of play means Tark & Mee are going to rack up block after block.

[Ric Flair]

4 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

He is very good at timing his tackles, reminds me of Ndidi in that aspect

 

Height really doesn't look like an issue as he has a very good jump

 

One of the best things about him, he is quick, which I think we have needed at centre back for a long time

 

 

Soyuncu is very quick

[Stevosevic]

23 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

If the rumours of three at the back are true don’t we need Tarkowski and Ake? 

What rumours?

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

They’d want / expect 80-100m plus Gray I would’ve thought for them two!

Fraser won't go for more than £20m, he has less than a year on his contract.

[Will1981]

24 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

If the rumours of three at the back are true don’t we need Tarkowski and Ake? 

Surely we need both if we are player 3 centre backs?

 

[TJB-fox]

5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Fraser won't go for more than £20m, he has less than a year on his contract.

Didn’t know that to be fair, massive factor. I’ve seen a lot of comments from (seemingly) reasonable Bournemouth fans saying Fraser would go for 25-30 and Ake would cost 50-60. Crazy. 

[moore_94]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Soyuncu is very quick

I know he is quick, but I do feel Soyuncu has a couple of things in his game he still needs to iron out though, mainly that when it comes to tackling he can be rash, and with VAR he will be under even more scrutiny

 

Although he has looked a lot more assured next to Evans, so maybe that will help him out if he is part of the starting pair

 

I am more than happy for him to get the opportunity as the replacement for Maguire, but I would also be very happy with Ake

[Raw Dykes]

8 minutes ago, Will1981 said:

Surely we need both if we are player 3 centre backs?

 

Read it again.

[Billy Big Balls]

4 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

I wonder why CB's tend to be bigger and stronger than any other positions?

 

Just chance I guess... 

Centre backs 6 feet or under: Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva, Marquinhos, Umtiti, Azpilicueta (played there under Conte in the back 3 and was arguably the best cb in the league that year), Puyol, Cannavaro, Bobby Moore, Daley Blind, Otamendi, Djené (5'9 and in the Spanish league team of the season). All minus a couple are considered world class. 

 

Height is useful but isn't the only important factor for a centre back. Height is good for heading but also makes turning and accelerating much more difficult. Although I think Maguire is overall a better player than Ake, I think Ake might suit us better. We are now pressing high up the pitch and having our defensive line up on the half way line. The pace, recovery speed and distance covered by a smaller player will be very useful to us when teams start to panic and lump long balls in behind. 

[Raw Dykes]

3 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Didn’t know that to be fair, massive factor. I’ve seen a lot of comments from (seemingly) reasonable Bournemouth fans saying Fraser would go for 25-30 and Ake would cost 50-60. Crazy. 

If they're still interested in Gray, then we could possibly get Ake and Fraser for around £50m and Gray, then? I'd be all over that.

[SheppyFox]

14 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

What rumours?

Honestly can’t remember who but I read someone reliable on here say they were expecting 3 at the back ?

[rachhere]

2 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Honestly can’t remember who but I read someone reliable on here say they were expecting 3 at the back ?

I think that was talking about Dunk and the fact that Brighton have bought an extra defender because they are going 3 at the back, and not because they are preparing to sell him. 

[Buce]

23 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

I wonder why CB's tend to be bigger and stronger than any other positions?

 

Just chance I guess... 

 

Probably the same reasons prop forwards are - centre-halves are big, so a coach looks for a big player to be one.

 

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Raw Dykes]

2 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Honestly can’t remember who but I read someone reliable on here say they were expecting 3 at the back ?

Are you sure they were talking about us? I think you might have read @The Bear talking about Wolves.

 

I've not heard or read anything about us playing 3 at the back, and we would have prepared for 3 at the back if that was the plan, surely. Probably would have played some of the friendlies with 3 at the back if that was the case.

 

We're talking about whether we have enough CBs for 2 at the back, nevermind 3!

[nwl fox]

4 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Honestly can’t remember who but I read someone reliable on here say they were expecting 3 at the back ?

Literally no chance we're playing all pre-season with a back four and then suddenly switching to 3 at the back once the season starts... 

[Wizerud]

Ake, Tarkowski and Dunk in that order. Honestly I like all three but the thought that we'd have to pay more for any of them than we spent on Tielemans is mind-boggling. I'd be surprised if Bournemouth would be interested in selling both Fraser and Ake to the same team in the same window. What message would that send to their fans? They're probably thinking that with a good season they could be close to us in the table. 

[Stevosevic]

10 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Honestly can’t remember who but I read someone reliable on here say they were expecting 3 at the back ?

Think that was Brighton

[Buzzell]

It’s fire in here apparently. Any reliable source or is it just pages of mumbo jumbo?

[enmac]

16 minutes ago, Billy Big Balls said:

Centre backs 6 feet or under: Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva, Marquinhos, Umtiti, Azpilicueta (played there under Conte in the back 3 and was arguably the best cb in the league that year), Puyol, Cannavaro, Bobby Moore, Daley Blind, Otamendi, Djené (5'9 and in the Spanish league team of the season). All minus a couple are considered world class. 

 

Height is useful but isn't the only important factor for a centre back. Height is good for heading but also makes turning and accelerating much more difficult. Although I think Maguire is overall a better player than Ake, I think Ake might suit us better. We are now pressing high up the pitch and having our defensive line up on the half way line. The pace, recovery speed and distance covered by a smaller player will be very useful to us when teams start to panic and lump long balls in behind. 

Franco Baresi 5,9/1.76m

[blue blood]

Mumbo source

[ARM1968]

6 minutes ago, enmac said:

Franco Baresi 5,9/1.76m

Yeah, but never headed a ball once did he?

[urban.spaceman]

14 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

It’s fire in here apparently. Any reliable source or is it just pages of mumbo jumbo?

Hi. Are you new to FoxesTalk?

[LinekersApples]

5 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Yeah, but never headed a ball once did he?

Didn’t need to. Absolute class. A Rolls Royce of a player.

 

Knew where the ball would be 5 seconds before anyone else. Even better than Billy in “deadshot Keens” boots.